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Posted: 1/4/2019 11:46:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They do drop mags partially loaded all the time, that was one of the posts Henderson defense made. 25 rounds loaded dropped from 4 feet on a concrete floor (since their packages come with 25 rounds). I'm sorry you have a hard time accepting the truth. I bet when you are dropping your "partially loaded mags", it's for a mag changes and the mags have less than 10 rounds left in them, and they are not being dropped onto concrete. Still less abuse than Henderson. I know that in the latest magazine test the marines did, the tan follower USGI mags came in at a close #2 behind the Pmags in most of the tests, and even came in at #1 in one of them. Statistically speaking, there is no difference in reliability. But the USGI mags are much better in longevity (of spring cycles / compression length and integrity of materials long term), and durability in my, and Hendersondefense's, experiences. |
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Posted: 1/4/2019 12:21:34 PM EDT
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The springs are pretty much the same, the followers are slightly different (the tans are less anti tip than the Surefeed blue) and the Surefeed's new slanted feedlip design is different (might add feed reliability but impact strength).
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Posted: 1/4/2019 6:04:56 PM EDT
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The springs are pretty much the same, the followers are slightly different (the tans are less anti tip than the Surefeed blue) and the Surefeed's new slanted feedlip design is different (might add feed reliability but impact strength). |
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Posted: 1/4/2019 10:25:45 PM EDT
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No, the less material on the lips would lessen impact strength.
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Posted: 1/5/2019 10:01:20 AM EDT
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Double post
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Posted: 1/5/2019 10:02:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
No, the less material on the lips would lessen impact strength. |
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Posted: 1/5/2019 8:59:55 PM EDT
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These E2s stack the rounds opposite other AR magazines with MP Followers. The 30th round is on the LEFT.
I wonder why they did that? 
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Posted: 1/5/2019 9:34:36 PM EDT
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That change to first round on the right happened with the tan follower GI mag and remained that way with the blue follower in the EPM. The E2 is just continuing that orientation.
Some people have accused the government of making that change because they were copying the design of Magpul’s enhanced follower and switched the hump to get around the patent. I’m skeptical. |
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Posted: 1/5/2019 10:01:12 PM EDT
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That change to first round on the right happened with the tan follower GI mag and remained that way with the blue follower in the EPM. The E2 is just continuing that orientation. Some people have accused the government of making that change because they were copying the design of Magpul’s enhanced follower and switched the hump to get around the patent. I’m skeptical. |
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Posted: 1/6/2019 4:40:22 PM EDT
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I ran my new OKAY E2 mag today. I loaded it three times to full capacity and it ran flawlessly. Very nice mag. I will be purchasing more.
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Posted: 1/6/2019 6:11:02 PM EDT
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I ran my new OKAY E2 mag today. I loaded it three times to full capacity and it ran flawlessly. Very nice mag. I will be purchasing more. |
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Posted: 1/6/2019 7:02:09 PM EDT
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Dry lube.because the other Teflon colors were out of stock when I ordered.
Actually the dry lube really isn't bad but it has the deep scratches from the insertion gauge. I posted pictures of my mag on page 1. |
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Posted: 1/6/2019 7:14:01 PM EDT
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My experience with dry lube on magazines is that over time, once exposed to air, the coating tends to meld with the metal and become almost a teflon like coating.
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Posted: 1/6/2019 7:32:22 PM EDT
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I ordered a 6 pack of the dry film because I'm impressed and the dry film coating isn't that bad.
Besides, I care about how they function more than how they look. |
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Posted: 1/6/2019 8:36:33 PM EDT
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Dry lube.because the other Teflon colors were out of stock when I ordered. Actually the dry lube really isn't had but it has the deep scratches from the insertion gauge. I posted pictures of my mag on page 1. I’ve purchased Okay Industries magazines off of the EE a couple of times (over 30 total magazines) that were advertised as “lightly used”. They were all just marks from the Okay insertion gauge.  They were brand new!
From Okay’s web site... WE TEST THEM SO YOU DON’T HAVE TO. OKAY SureFeed® magazines are beautifully finished, then promptly scuffed. Why? Because each and every magazine is hand inspected and then tested with proprietary electronic gaging for flawless reliability. Testing the final product mars the finish, but it doesn’t mar performance. In fact, we view our scuffs as badges of quality for reliable performance. |
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Posted: 1/6/2019 10:29:14 PM EDT
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It's a really nice, quality mag.
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Posted: 1/10/2019 2:36:45 AM EDT
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I'd say the overwhelming vast majority of AR owners shoot from a bench, so it makes sense to lean towards the Aluminum Magazines. Again, I like PMags. I have 4 in my range rotation mags.( 2 gen 1, a gen 2 and a gen 3) and I've had no problems so far.. I also have a Daniel Defense 32 rounder and a couple of D@H and Okay that have also functioned fine. |
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Posted: 1/10/2019 7:13:44 AM EDT
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How much usage have your Daniels been put thru compared to your others? I got it for free from DD and added it to my range mag rotation. I'm not that impressed and not planning on buying any. I think it's basically an overpriced but not as good Pmag Knockoff That said, it seems to work good so far. |
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Posted: 1/10/2019 7:24:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not much. I got it for free from DD and added it to my range mag rotation. I'm not that impressed and not planning on buying any. I think it's basically an overpriced but not as good Pmag Knockoff That said, it seems to work good so far. |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 1:12:54 PM EDT
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My 6 pack is still in transit.
I've discovered that when you order the 6 pack deal; they use FedEx Ground which is VERY slow shipping. If you're not in any hurry though, it's a great deal. $10.00 each; shipped. I got my one to try via USPS; which was fairly quick . |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 3:38:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
My 6 pack is still in transit. I've discovered that when you order the 6 pack deal; they use FedEx Ground which is VERY slow shipping. If you're not in any hurry though, it's a great deal. $10.00 each; shipped. I got my one to try via USPS; which was fairly quick . If so, yeah it's pretty slow... I ordered a 6 pack of the E2 mags in dry film lube about a week ago and they won't be here until the 16th. |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 5:13:45 PM EDT
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The only time anyone should order from them, is if they aren't in a hurry to get their stuff.
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Posted: 1/11/2019 7:55:07 PM EDT
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Karen and I got 21 of the dry lube e2's. So far it's the only mag that feeds flawlessly, inserts with no issues, and drops free when empty or full in all our AR pattern rifles. We have an Anderson lower, del-ton lower, and my fussy AR180b plastic and AR18s aluminum nodak spud rifles. The pmags never worked right in the 180b/18s rifles, and occasionally had drop free issues in Karen's Del-ton. We really need mags that work consistently in all rifles. So the pmags have been pulled and will be given/sold away. Ymmv.
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Posted: 1/11/2019 8:06:38 PM EDT
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Karen and I got 21 of the dry lube e2's. So far it's the only mag that feeds flawlessly, inserts with no issues, and drops free when empty or full in all our AR pattern rifles. We have an Anderson lower, del-ton lower, and my fussy AR180b plastic and AR18s aluminum nodak spud rifles. The pmags never worked right in the 180b/18s rifles, and occasionally had drop free issues in Karen's Del-ton. We really need mags that work consistently in all rifles. So the pmags have been pulled and will be given/sold away. Ymmv. David Have you tried D@H Mags? |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 8:07:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was this Botach? If so, yeah it's pretty slow... I ordered a 6 pack of the E2 mags in dry film lube about a week ago and they won't be here until the 16th. |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 8:17:24 PM EDT
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Tried d&h, have some c-products. The d&h worked in all but the bitches(aka the fussy 180b/18s). I love those rifles but they can be taxing!
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Posted: 1/12/2019 4:28:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Yep. Botach. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Was this Botach? If so, yeah it's pretty slow... I ordered a 6 pack of the E2 mags in dry film lube about a week ago and they won't be here until the 16th. |
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Posted: 1/12/2019 8:17:21 PM EDT
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At least they ship to you. Placed an order for 6 and received a call a week later saying their “policy” won’t allow them to ship to AK... |
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Posted: 1/13/2019 3:47:04 AM EDT
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Break my heart! I've been trying to clear some $ to order some E2s and other mags from Botach. Thanks for the heads up.
Living in AK does have its challenges. |
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Posted: 1/13/2019 9:42:30 AM EDT
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For those that don't mind the extra weight, the Italian military steel mags sold on Beretta's website have gotten good reviews. They're a bit expensive, though, so wait for a sale.
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Posted: 1/16/2019 5:58:54 PM EDT
[#31]
Got my 6 pack of E2s today. Oh yeah!
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:03:56 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryI got mine yesterday and they look the same, I didn't really like the thin bubble wrap pouch that Botach sent them in though. One of the mags looks like it may have received some damage on the rear of it's right side feed lip, so I'll be testing that one out first.
I received a box of 12 of the standard Okay mags last week from Weapon Outfitters and it was very well packed. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:08:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
For those that don't mind the extra weight, the Italian military steel mags sold on Beretta's website have gotten good reviews. They're a bit expensive, though, so wait for a sale. 
I'm not looking forward to cleaning off the cosmoline though. 
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:29:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I got mine yesterday and they look the same, I didn't really like the thin bubble wrap pouch that Botach sent them in though. One of the mags looks like it may have received some damage on the rear of it's right side feed lip, so I'll be testing that one out first. I received a box of 12 of the standard Okay mags last week from Weapon Outfitters and it was very well packed. The cheap packaging along with the slow shipping. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:30:01 PM EDT
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I bought some a while back. I haven’t tried them yet but they look good.
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:32:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I bought some a while back. I haven’t tried them yet but they look good. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/35314/02AD5183-7AA0-4741-A2D6-8C3B46F8F9D0_jpeg-810468.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/35314/27B39649-1818-4D79-89A9-20DDB614B6A8_jpeg-810469.JPG The black Teflon looks good. No scuff marks like the dry film. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:48:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I didn't like how they shipped them either but evidently that's one of the things that help keep the cost down. The cheap packaging along with the slow shipping. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I got mine yesterday and they look the same, I didn't really like the thin bubble wrap pouch that Botach sent them in though. One of the mags looks like it may have received some damage on the rear of it's right side feed lip, so I'll be testing that one out first. I received a box of 12 of the standard Okay mags last week from Weapon Outfitters and it was very well packed. The cheap packaging along with the slow shipping. I just ordered six Lancer mags from them too. |
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Posted: 1/17/2019 12:01:52 AM EDT
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I just ordered 30 more from botach. I like them.
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Posted: 1/17/2019 11:13:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I just ordered 30 more from botach. I like them. |
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Posted: 1/17/2019 1:49:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AFAIK, they only ones in stock are the dry film. |
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Posted: 1/17/2019 6:34:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AFAIK, they only ones in stock are the dry film. |
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Posted: 1/17/2019 8:37:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
FDE 6pk E2s are $59 in stock Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: AFAIK, they only ones in stock are the dry film. Besides, unless you were in the desert with a FDE rifle; I don't see the use for FDE Mags. Just my opinion. |
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Posted: 1/17/2019 9:10:32 PM EDT
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There is a 15 day wait on the FDE, so they aren't in stock. Besides, unless you were in the desert with a FDE rifle; I don't see the use for FDE Mags. Just my opinion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: AFAIK, they only ones in stock are the dry film. Besides, unless you were in the desert with a FDE rifle; I don't see the use for FDE Mags. Just my opinion. |
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Posted: 1/17/2019 10:39:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you even #fdeallthethings on Instagram? Bro? I just looked it up. I guess you could do that. I just never thought of Using FDE mags to nske a two tone firearm. |
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Posted: 1/17/2019 11:00:10 PM EDT
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It kind of looks like Botach has the Tan E2 6-packs in stock, but it may be that they’re taking orders anticipating getting them restocked soon. Hard to tell with them sometimes...
Edit: Never mind - I see the delayed shipping now. Still worth ordering, in my opinion, but I’m never in a rush to get things. |
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Posted: 1/18/2019 11:12:27 AM EDT
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I think I'm going to wait until they have the black back in stock and then order some.
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Posted: 1/18/2019 12:22:34 PM EDT
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Botach had been showing Tan E2 6-packs for about a two months with "will ship in 10-15 days." I ordered a the 6-pack of tan on December 5th and they immediately charged my card and sent me a FedEx tracking number. I received nothing and the tracking never moved. I called them last week and they said they had no date from OKAY on when they would receive the tan magazines. The guy pretty much told me on the phone that they immediately charge customers and send them a tracking number so they won't cancel the order even though they have no idea when or if they will ever receive the product. Well, fuck that. I canceled my order and they did refund my money.
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Posted: 1/18/2019 1:06:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Botach had been showing Tan E2 6-packs for about a two months with "will ship in 10-15 days." I ordered a the 6-pack of tan on December 5th and they immediately charged my card and sent me a FedEx tracking number. I received nothing and the tracking never moved. I called them last week and they said they had no date from OKAY on when they would receive the tan magazines. The guy pretty much told me on the phone that they immediately charge customers and send them a tracking number so they won't cancel the order even though they have no idea when or if they will ever receive the product. Well, fuck that. I canceled my order and they did refund my money. I plan on buying 6 here, 10 there, gradually. I have plenty of mags but would like to acquire more OKAY. You can always buy them elsewhere for more money if you're in a hurry. |
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Posted: 3/11/2019 3:14:37 AM EDT
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I simply ordered some for my M855A1, in dry film since it was all they had. I ordered 10 for the discount, I signed up for email updates when the Black and Tan are back in stock, I received a email telling me the black are in so I ordered 10 of those as well, waiting on the tan now. I will most likely order 10 more of each as they come back into stock, nice mags nice price, slow as hell shipping.
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