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12/16/2014 5:11:29 PM EDT
I recently purchased a lancer mag to try out. I'm having an issue with the last round and locking back. After firing the second to last round in a magazine, the bolt locks back, and the last round is sitting in the upper receiver. It appears that the round is popping out at some point during the cycling and usually ends up sitting on top of the mag with the bolt locked back. Is this a common issue? Not a huge deal to me as I use mostly Pmags, but I found this interesting. This happened on both a Colt and Aero lower.
12/16/2014 6:52:30 PM EDT
[#1]
I have not heard of this before. I have about 15 Lancers that have never had this problem. Tag for more replies.
12/16/2014 6:59:00 PM EDT
[#2]
I would contact them first
12/16/2014 7:19:32 PM EDT
[#3]
Never had a problem with them.
12/16/2014 7:28:48 PM EDT
[#4]
I've never had any problems with Lancer mags.  I guess it's possible to have a bad apple with anything though.
12/16/2014 7:31:54 PM EDT
[#5]
Which generation?
12/16/2014 7:40:46 PM EDT
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No idea, it says L5-AWM on it. Ordered from primary arms a couple months ago. I have a rifle in an SI defense billet lower I'll try it in. That's actually the rifle I bought it for, but didn't bring it to the range that day.
12/16/2014 10:22:03 PM EDT
[#7]
L5-AWM is the latest version - L5 sans '-AWM' is the old version.

Only time I've encountered the exact malfunction you describe was in a 1911; never had it happen with an AR. Had almost the same thing with an M1 carbine, but the bolt didn't lock back; it just got jammed up with the last round coming loose from the mag and going wonky when the bolt tried to go into battery. Korean KCI magazines with weak springs was the culprit, the last round just wasn't held snug enough during recoil & cycling.
12/16/2014 10:27:40 PM EDT
[#8]
OP, I have nothing constructive to add as to why this is happening.
I would like to remind everyone that THIS is why we should test every magazine, regardless of manufacture, before trusting it for serious use.
Good luck to you, OP.
12/16/2014 11:46:48 PM EDT
[#9]
I have the AWM and L5 and all work for me.  I would contact them.  I have never had to do so but they should be a stand up company as they are seen as the only major competitor to Magpul in the polymer mag game at this time.
12/17/2014 11:48:43 AM EDT
[#10]
I have this issue with a clear Lancer 20rder, but only on one rifle.
I just don't use it in that rifle.  Every other mag works fine in that one rifle, but the Lancer also works fine in all my other rifles.
12/18/2014 10:10:13 AM EDT
[#11]
So I did not have this issue with a SI defense billet lower. I had bought two mags when I ordered them and gave one to a friend. He hasn't had issues with his on a PSA lower. I was able to replicate the problem yesterday using snap caps. I'm thinking the spring might just be a little too strong and is popping them out as it sends the round upwards.

I should note that snap caps are a bit lighter than live rounds so maybe it's more likely to happen with them. I'll shoot lancer an email, but I'm not going to worry to much about it, not worth the shipping for one mag. It's probably a tolerance stack up, and/or the spring needs to wear in a bit.
12/19/2014 3:16:53 PM EDT
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Not having the same issue as you but currently I have 20-25 30rd lancers and a large majority of mine don't lock the bolt back completely on the last round.

In fact they don't even lock back on an empty mag when charged, I usually have to pull the bolt back and manually push in my bolt hold open then release the bolt.







My following rifles it happens in







KAC SR15 E3


Colt 6920 soccom


Yankee Hill YHM 880







I know other guys that tell me they have the same issue.

 
12/19/2014 3:52:23 PM EDT
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Not having the same issue as you but currently I have 20-25 30rd lancers and a large majority of mine don't lock the bolt back completely on the last round. In fact they don't even lock back on an empty mag when charged, I usually have to pull the bolt back and manually push in my bolt hold open then release the bolt.
My following rifles it happens in

KAC SR15 E3
Colt 6920 soccom
Yankee Hill YHM 880


I know other guys that tell me they have the same issue.
 
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Never had an issue with the L5AWMs. Are you using L5AWMs of the older L5 non-AWM version?
I had the same described issue with 2013 production Pmag M3s in an LMT. The mag feed lips where too long and the carrier would drag on the top of the mag preventing last round bolt hold open. Magpul replaced them with 2014 production M3s, which had no issues.

Just like I did with Magpul, call Lancer and have them replace the mags exhibiting problems. I'm sure it shouldn't be an issue to swap them out.
12/19/2014 4:02:13 PM EDT
[#14]
They are the current L5AWM's but February of 13 production.
 
1/31/2015 3:05:33 AM EDT
[#15]
Bumping a old topic, but I also have this issue, however ONLY when manually racking the bolt SLOWLY. When I rack the bolt quickly, or when the bolt is cycled during firing, no issues. PMAGs do not have this issue with my gun. My upper is a BCM upper, lower is Aero Precision. I swapped mags with a friend, he was also able to reproduce the issue on his gun (PSA upper/lower).

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJN68K9nIq0

With snap caps, I was able to reproduce the last round popping out issue, but not with real bullets. Presumably because snap caps are lighter.

I have what I presume are the latest generation magazines: http://store.lancer-systems.com/product/l5-awm-10rd-opaque-black/magazines
(Also have the issue with their 30rd mags)
2/1/2015 10:02:49 AM EDT
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OP, I have nothing constructive to add as to why this is happening.
I would like to remind everyone that THIS is why we should test every magazine, regardless of manufacture, before trusting it for serious use.
Good luck to you, OP.
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i agree with this 100% i just had 3 out of 8 ETS mags fails, they seem to be running great now, but we will see

as far as Lancer goes i have never seen one fail old or newer versioner

OP contact Lancer, they will get you squared away
2/1/2015 5:47:12 PM EDT
[#17]
Interesting. I run the shit out of my Lancers with Bushmaster, Rock river arm, Olympic arms,   with no issues at all.
2/2/2015 3:28:25 PM EDT
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I have YET to see a Lancer fail, that's why they are my favorite mag
2/3/2015 2:52:36 AM EDT
[#19]
I agree, I bought them for the metal lips, and overall they do feel sturdier than PMAGs (although the anti-tilt isn't quite as good). The weird feeding issues aren't a problem for me since I only target shoot.
2/3/2015 3:24:37 AM EDT
[#20]
I have about 12 30rnd and 6 20rnd Lancer AWM mags and I have never had an issue with them.

OP, are you having issues with 20rnd mags or 30rnd mags?
2/3/2015 7:51:29 PM EDT
[#21]
Mine was a 20 rounder. I went ahead and gave it to a friend and it runs great out of his gun.
2/4/2015 3:21:36 AM EDT
[#22]
I have not had this problem.
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