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Posted: 8/22/2012 1:05:39 PM EDT
My poor PMAGs 
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Article VI, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, known as the Supremacy Clause, establishes the U.S. Constitution, U.S. Treaties, and laws made pursuant to the U.S. Constitution, shall be "the supreme law of the land." The text decrees these to be the highest form of law in the U.S. legal system, and mandates that all state judges must follow federal law when a conflict arises between federal law and either the state constitution or state law of any state. (Note that the word "shall" is used, which makes it a necessity, a compulsion.) However, the Supremacy Clause only applies if the federal government is acting in pursuit of its constitutionally authorized powers, as noted by the phrase "in pursuance thereof" in the actual text of the Supremacy Clause itself. The "supremacy clause" is the most important guarantor of national union. It assures that the Constitution and federal laws and treaties take precedence over state law and binds all judges to adhere to that principle in their courts. - United States Senate[1] The Fourteenth Amendment "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States." So who gets to be the guinea pig that challenges these B.S. state specific mag cap laws? I have dogs, count me out.
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Supremacy Clause Article VI, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, known as the Supremacy Clause, establishes the U.S. Constitution, U.S. Treaties, and laws made pursuant to the U.S. Constitution, shall be "the supreme law of the land." The text decrees these to be the highest form of law in the U.S. legal system, and mandates that all state judges must follow federal law when a conflict arises between federal law and either the state constitution or state law of any state. (Note that the word "shall" is used, which makes it a necessity, a compulsion.) However, the Supremacy Clause only applies if the federal government is acting in pursuit of its constitutionally authorized powers, as noted by the phrase "in pursuance thereof" in the actual text of the Supremacy Clause itself. The "supremacy clause" is the most important guarantor of national union. It assures that the Constitution and federal laws and treaties take precedence over state law and binds all judges to adhere to that principle in their courts. - United States Senate[1] The Fourteenth Amendment "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States." So who gets to be the guinea pig that challenges these B.S. state specific mag cap laws? I have dogs, count me out. Wouldn't the NRA fight and win if it's that simple? |
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Did you replace the springs or cut them? If you replaced them, are there companies making factory springs for 15-round mags? Isn't NJ the only state with a 15-round limit. Does the spring just sit on the rivets? Why does the floorplate have to be sealed when there are already rivets blocking the follower? My head is full of fuck! Also, I'm sorry.  |
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15? Must be N' Jo-see. Talk about a screwed up pull a number out of a hat mag limit. Even Maryland went with 20 - at least they actually make 20 round mags. There were various magazine capacity schemes in the mid-late 80's, and due to the popularity of 15rd 9mm pistols, that number was seen as a compromise. (There's also talk that certain manufacturers supported it to kill sales of the Glock 17 which was getting extremely popular at that time) Another scheme involved both a 5rd limit coupled with "Saturday Night Special" schemes, that would have banned all pistols AND revolvers. |
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You could have, at the very least, used black rivets. I've hear a lot of horror stories from the range I go to (Range 14) and don't want to be hassle by the likes of TadJackson or RSO that's on a power trip because it MAY looks illegal. |
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Did you replace the springs or cut them? If you replaced them, are there companies making factory springs for 15-round mags? Isn't NJ the only state with a 15-round limit. Does the spring just sit on the rivets? Why does the floorplate have to be sealed when there are already rivets blocking the follower? My head is full of fuck! Also, I'm sorry.
There are 3 rivets total, 1 in the front and 1 in the back to prevent the follower from going further down. The rivet on the side of the magazine isn't necessary, I just wanted some more tension on the springs pushing up on the follower. The permanently sealed base plate is also not necessary but I just wanted some extra insurance. Pretty much a use-once magazine because you can't disassemble or do anything to it without completely destroying it.
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The US supreme court refused to hear the case, so the poor subjects
in Nazi Jerzie have to stick with the appellate decision and the overlords' decision of the NJ "mightier that thow" supreme court. NJ is stuck until The law changes. NJ is going to hell in a hand bag. I say move out and leave it to the communists and deviants. |
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Just drill out the rivets when the time comes The base plate is permanently affixed  So were the ones that I had when I lived in CA. Took 10 seconds with a drill to fix  The base plate and base plate insert is jb welded together and then the whole thing is jb welded into the magazine body. There's no way to get it out without destroying something.
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Just drill out the rivets when the time comes The base plate is permanently affixed So were the ones that I had when I lived in CA. Took 10 seconds with a drill to fix The base plate and base plate insert is jb welded together and then the whole thing is jb welded into the magazine body. There's no way to get it out without destroying something. Hmm. Mine just had a roll pin through them. GI mags had a tab bent into the body that stopped the floorplate from going past a certain point... that was fixed with a 1/8" drill bit
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Just drill out the rivets when the time comes The base plate is permanently affixed So were the ones that I had when I lived in CA. Took 10 seconds with a drill to fix The base plate and base plate insert is jb welded together and then the whole thing is jb welded into the magazine body. There's no way to get it out without destroying something. Hmm. Mine just had a roll pin through them. GI mags had a tab bent into the body that stopped the floorplate from going past a certain point... that was fixed with a 1/8" drill bit Dude, they're $12 plastic mags. When you move, donate to a buddy and buy some real ones. 
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Just drill out the rivets when the time comes The base plate is permanently affixed So were the ones that I had when I lived in CA. Took 10 seconds with a drill to fix The base plate and base plate insert is jb welded together and then the whole thing is jb welded into the magazine body. There's no way to get it out without destroying something. Hmm. Mine just had a roll pin through them. GI mags had a tab bent into the body that stopped the floorplate from going past a certain point... that was fixed with a 1/8" drill bit Dude, they're $12 plastic mags. When you move, donate to a buddy and buy some real ones.
I already did move
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| OP - YOU deliberately did this to your mags? I mean... You deliberately made them a permenent change? I get the ban state commie state laws thing, but I don'tget why you made them an absolutely permnent fix. I used to live in Chgo, then other parts of IL. Inever expected living in TX, butI'm sooo happy I didnt resort to permanent fixes for everything while I was in Daleyland. Maybe I'm just not getting something here... |
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Ouch. Personally I would've gotten the 20rders and limited then. Or even 10rd mags and saved myself the trouble. I'm wondering this, too. If you can only have 15 rounds, then why not start with 20 round mags? The 30 rounders hang a couple more inches out of the bottom of the gun. 20 round mags are much easier for shooting off of a bench, prone, etc. |
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all4bao, I found a company that makes permanently fixed 15rd pmags. Nothing looks touched but they cannot be modified (makes the state happy). Let me know if ya want the link.
Warlord31, Jersey requires that the magazine be "permanantly" fixed. It cannot be modifed to accept more rounds |
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Quoted: all4bao, I found a company that makes permanently fixed 15rd pmags. Nothing looks touched but they cannot be modified (makes the state happy). Let me know if ya want the link. Warlord31, Jersey requires that the magazine be "permanantly" fixed. It cannot be modifed to accept more rounds Ahhh, I see. Didnt knw the permanent rule thing. Man, that really sucks! I feel for ya then. |
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