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Posted: 4/9/2012 7:27:40 PM EDT
| O.K. so I decided that after reading some military articles on the new G.I. tan follower mags that I would upgrade my stash mags. I have about 50 OKAY green follower mags and they are great but if there is a better mag I am all about it as these "stash" mags will in all likelyhood be used by my children in the future. So I buy 10 NIW Center Ind. tan follower mags. 5 are tight but go in and drop free, 5 will not drop free at all and are really tight, one of that five is just plain hard to get in. The only way I can describe the feeling is that after 20 years of running AR's I have felt a few really worn out, swelled mags that felt like these. So my question is for those of you who may know. Is there a purpose to the tightness, is it on purpose or just poor quality control . My guess is poor quality control based upon the fact that half drop free and half don't (one half has to be f'd up). Any info would be appreciated. Matt |
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What lower(s) are you trying them in? +1. Some lowers are tighter than others. Why not just purchase magpul followers and upgrade your okay mags? you already know all the okay mags work and drop free from your rifles, and it would be a cost savings with a follower that is just as good or better than the current USGI one. |
| I’m beginning to think there is a bad batch of Center mag out there. I have two new Center mags that will not drop. In another thread someone was having the same problem with theirs. Both of my AR’s drop all other mags ranging from several different USGI mags, Pmags, ACR, Lancer and so on. |
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O.K. so I decided that after reading some military articles on the new G.I. tan follower mags that I would upgrade my stash mags. I have about 50 OKAY green follower mags and they are great but if there is a better mag I am all about it as these "stash" mags will in all likelyhood be used by my children in the future. So I buy 10 NIW Center Ind. tan follower mags. 5 are tight but go in and drop free, 5 will not drop free at all and are really tight, one of that five is just plain hard to get in. The only way I can describe the feeling is that after 20 years of running AR's I have felt a few really worn out, swelled mags that felt like these. So my question is for those of you who may know. Is there a purpose to the tightness, is it on purpose or just poor quality control . My guess is poor quality control based upon the fact that half drop free and half don't (one half has to be f'd up). Any info would be appreciated. Matt OMG Becky! Mil Aluminum mags that won't work!?! with the new tan followers!?! Say it isn't so!! - 
If they'e not working for you, return them if you can or trade/sell them to someone else. There isn't really such a thing as a better mag, you just bought into all the bullshit hype people are peddling around here. Sorry dude. |
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O.K. so I decided that after reading some military articles on the new G.I. tan follower mags that I would upgrade my stash mags. I have about 50 OKAY green follower mags and they are great but if there is a better mag I am all about it as these "stash" mags will in all likelyhood be used by my children in the future. So I buy 10 NIW Center Ind. tan follower mags. 5 are tight but go in and drop free, 5 will not drop free at all and are really tight, one of that five is just plain hard to get in. The only way I can describe the feeling is that after 20 years of running AR's I have felt a few really worn out, swelled mags that felt like these. So my question is for those of you who may know. Is there a purpose to the tightness, is it on purpose or just poor quality control . My guess is poor quality control based upon the fact that half drop free and half don't (one half has to be f'd up). Any info would be appreciated. Matt OMG Becky! Mil Aluminum mags that won't work!?! with the new tan followers!?! Say it isn't so!! - Insert eye rolling emoticon which AR15 seems to lack. If they'e not working for you, return them if you can or trade/sell them to someone else. There isn't really such a thing as a better mag, you just bought into all the bullshit hype people are peddling around here. Sorry dude. this one?
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O.K. so I decided that after reading some military articles on the new G.I. tan follower mags that I would upgrade my stash mags. I have about 50 OKAY green follower mags and they are great but if there is a better mag I am all about it as these "stash" mags will in all likelyhood be used by my children in the future. So I buy 10 NIW Center Ind. tan follower mags. 5 are tight but go in and drop free, 5 will not drop free at all and are really tight, one of that five is just plain hard to get in. The only way I can describe the feeling is that after 20 years of running AR's I have felt a few really worn out, swelled mags that felt like these. So my question is for those of you who may know. Is there a purpose to the tightness, is it on purpose or just poor quality control . My guess is poor quality control based upon the fact that half drop free and half don't (one half has to be f'd up). Any info would be appreciated. Matt OMG Becky! Mil Aluminum mags that won't work!?! with the new tan followers!?! Say it isn't so!! - Insert eye rolling emoticon which AR15 seems to lack. If they'e not working for you, return them if you can or trade/sell them to someone else. There isn't really such a thing as a better mag, you just bought into all the bullshit hype people are peddling around here. Sorry dude. this one?no....
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| Check outside dimension of mags. They should be about .875 - .880. They very somewhat and start getting tight around .895 - .900. The two halves don't get spot welded correctly and thats why the variances. Also, why they came up with the no tilt follower...To overcome an overly tight internal cartridge stack do to internal dimension variations. If too big on the inside, which helps the cartridge stack move more freely, the outside will be too wide for insertion into the magazine well. |
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Thanks for sharing you vast knowledge COMPNOR, I can finally sleep now. WTF Oh you're quite welcome. I hope you did manage to get some sleep.
Sorry, it wasn't necessarily directed at you, but the "magazine wars" get ridiculous around here. People want the "tan mil magazines" because its what the cool kids are using and will swear by them, while others prefer the polymer, and then we have those individuals who always seem ready to interject their vast knowledge about magazines and followers and my magazine is better, no yours is, and it just gets sooooooo silly. I mean, people rave about GI mags, and say why polymer and then we have here a prime of example of GI mags not working. OMG Becky! Said it isn't so! they're magazines. They may not work in all guns. If they work for you, great. If not, find someone who will. Maybe they are truly defective. Return them. But your OP shows how you bought into the hype. You read military articles, figure its a better mag, and said "hey why not". Nevermind you could have upgraded your current magazines with MagPul followers and acheived the same result at probably a lot cheaper price(unless your goal was to increase your magazine count). Tan followers may be an improvement, maybe not. there are those who will say you will never see the difference. So, I hope I've once again impressed you with my vast knowledge, and then tonight you may sleep like a baby. 
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Not sure what to tell ya. I now have 20 of the USGI Center Industries with the tan followers (I bought them all new and in wrap) and all of them go in and drop free easy enough. They are a wee bit tighter than the well worn USGI mags I'm used to, but I attribute that mostly to the "raw" nature of the mags. The finish had not even rubbed off yet. Also, my AR15 is a Colt (MT6700 series) do nothing out of spec here.
I say to just double check the welds and make sure they are tight, measure the OD of the mags to make sure they are in spec, and if need be use some emery paper on the edges that are sharp or or areas that show extra friction wear to help them "break in" so the mag drops free. My 2 cents worth. 
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But your OP shows how you bought into the hype. You read military articles, figure its a better mag, and said "hey why not". Nevermind you could have upgraded your current magazines with MagPul followers and acheived the same result at probably a lot cheaper price(unless your goal was to increase your magazine count). Tan followers may be an improvement, maybe not. there are those who will say you will never see the difference. So, I hope I've once again impressed you with my vast knowledge, and then tonight you may sleep like a baby.
I'm sure glib comments and ass-hattery are quite useful.... Anyway OP, these are just typical mil contract mags, built to be disposable, and thus, they are. Nothing new here, been going on for years and years. |
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But your OP shows how you bought into the hype. You read military articles, figure its a better mag, and said "hey why not". Nevermind you could have upgraded your current magazines with MagPul followers and acheived the same result at probably a lot cheaper price(unless your goal was to increase your magazine count). Tan followers may be an improvement, maybe not. there are those who will say you will never see the difference. So, I hope I've once again impressed you with my vast knowledge, and then tonight you may sleep like a baby.
I'm sure glib comments and ass-hattery are quite useful.... Anyway OP, these are just typical mil contract mags, built to be disposable, and thus, they are. Nothing new here, been going on for years and years. seems to work everywhere else in this forum |
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