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Posted: 2/28/2011 3:45:50 PM EDT
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I keep my HD mag in my AR, obviously, however sometimes when I remove the mag the tip of the second round will move up, and be close to the same level as the first round. When I try to reinsert the magazine back into the rifle, it will not seat, so I then have to push the rounds back down, getting that 2nd round back into place, before reinserting.
Is this a mag issue? or something else? *Edit* Pictures speak a thousand words. How it Should look. 
How it looks. 
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I had some reliability issues with some of there older / 1st run mags.It was isolated to just 2 out of 5 mags the other 3 worked perfectly.
I have about 20 of the new 30 rounders and 10 -20 rounders. All are used pretty well and I have never seen anything like that. I would send that picture with the mag to them pronto. |
| Looks from the picture that the top round is nose diving a bit, which is not "normal" in any mag. I admit to being a fan boy but not just for magpul, I like Lancer a bunch. I think Justin patrols the Magpul industry fthread, and I'd post there and let Justin get on it. It's a cheap part to replace to Magpul. |
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The fan boys will protect magpul at all cost god forbid it was a different company I am sure that magpul will fix it, all companies have lemons once in a while By the way not a FAN BOY. Try reading the whole post next time before making insinuations. Kind of makes you look like a D––K. As well I think you should read the Posting RULES. M4QUADRAIL 
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The fan boys will protect magpul at all cost god forbid it was a different company I am sure that magpul will fix it, all companies have lemons once in a while By the way not a FAN BOY. Try reading the whole post next time before making insinuations. Kind of makes you look like a D––K. As well I think you should read the Posting RULES. M4QUADRAIL
I dont think the OP was trying to bash Magpul any, he basically wanted to know if this was normal or not. I would as well before I tried to get them to fix it so I didnt make an ass of myself if it was considered something that was normal... |
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Quoted: Quoted: The fan boys will protect magpul at all cost god forbid it was a different company I am sure that magpul will fix it, all companies have lemons once in a while By the way not a FAN BOY. Try reading the whole post next time before making insinuations. Kind of makes you look like a D––K. As well I think you should read the Posting RULES. M4QUADRAIL Id ask you please quit trying to moderate the forum. OP contact Magpul, they'll take care if it. No one is infallable. |
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Weird. I just noticed the same thing yesterday. Brand new pmag loaded with 30rds of MK318. Pulled the mag out and the second round was out of position just like yours. I had no problems with the mag at the range earlier in the day. ETA: Pics of mine. http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae3/6644_photo/IMAG0029.jpg http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae3/6644_photo/IMAG0028-1.jpg Exactly like mine, even the position of the round, the tip of the second round actually goes above the tip of the first. Can I ask the date stamp on yours? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Weird. I just noticed the same thing yesterday. Brand new pmag loaded with 30rds of MK318. Pulled the mag out and the second round was out of position just like yours. I had no problems with the mag at the range earlier in the day. ETA: Pics of mine. http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae3/6644_photo/IMAG0029.jpg http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae3/6644_photo/IMAG0028-1.jpg Exactly like mine, even the position of the round, the tip of the second round actually goes above the tip of the first. Can I ask the date stamp on yours? It says 12 - 2010. I am curious whether or not this would affect function. I can easily push the rounds back into place, so it does not seem they have shifted enough to bind up or anything. Unfortunately I did not notice this at all while I was at the range, so I have no idea if it was happening there or not. |
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Weird. I just noticed the same thing yesterday. Brand new pmag loaded with 30rds of MK318. Pulled the mag out and the second round was out of position just like yours. I had no problems with the mag at the range earlier in the day. ETA: Pics of mine. http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae3/6644_photo/IMAG0029.jpg http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae3/6644_photo/IMAG0028-1.jpg Exactly like mine, even the position of the round, the tip of the second round actually goes above the tip of the first. Can I ask the date stamp on yours? It says 12 - 2010. I am curious whether or not this would affect function. I can easily push the rounds back into place, so it does not seem they have shifted enough to bind up or anything. Unfortunately I did not notice this at all while I was at the range, so I have no idea if it was happening there or not. Once that round slips over, I can't insert my mag back into my rifle (bolt closed, havent tried to see what would happen with bolt open, I'm guessing a double feed), so if this were to happen in a situation where I needed to change mags, I would be royally screwed. As for trying other mags, Yes, I have tried all my other Pmags and Emags, this one mag will slip that round within 2-3 insertions just about every time, just went through my other Magpul mags, inserted each 10ish times, without this problem, just a faulty mag. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Weird. I just noticed the same thing yesterday. Brand new pmag loaded with 30rds of MK318. Pulled the mag out and the second round was out of position just like yours. I had no problems with the mag at the range earlier in the day. ETA: Pics of mine. http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae3/6644_photo/IMAG0029.jpg http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae3/6644_photo/IMAG0028-1.jpg Exactly like mine, even the position of the round, the tip of the second round actually goes above the tip of the first. Can I ask the date stamp on yours? It says 12 - 2010. I am curious whether or not this would affect function. I can easily push the rounds back into place, so it does not seem they have shifted enough to bind up or anything. Unfortunately I did not notice this at all while I was at the range, so I have no idea if it was happening there or not. Once that round slips over, I can't insert my mag back into my rifle (bolt closed, havent tried to see what would happen with bolt open, I'm guessing a double feed), so if this were to happen in a situation where I needed to change mags, I would be royally screwed. As for trying other mags, Yes, I have tried all my other Pmags and Emags, this one mag will slip that round within 2-3 insertions just about every time, just went through my other Magpul mags, inserted each 10ish times, without this problem, just a faulty mag. interesting. I can whack it back in there with a tap on the bottom of the mag. Also, mine seems to show this behavior with about the same frequency as yours. ETA: Just tried seeing what wold happen when closing the bolt on mag with the displaced 2nd round. No problem chambering the top round. The bolt just pushed the 2nd round out of the way (down). |
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Weird. I just noticed the same thing yesterday. Brand new pmag loaded with 30rds of MK318. Pulled the mag out and the second round was out of position just like yours. I had no problems with the mag at the range earlier in the day. ETA: Pics of mine. http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae3/6644_photo/IMAG0029.jpg http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae3/6644_photo/IMAG0028-1.jpg See these photos prove that Pmags are so good the second round is ready to go home before the first one is even out of the chute. 
Really, as long as you don't have any feeding issues, run it. Older Pmags had some isolated issues cracking at the mold seam, Magpul made them right as far as I know. Good company, give them a chance. |
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Quoted: I am not really concerned. If see failures with the mag because of this then I will contact magpul, but until then I really don't care. I was just surprised that someone else had a post about the same issue since I just noticed it last night.Quoted: Weird. I just noticed the same thing yesterday. Brand new pmag loaded with 30rds of MK318. Pulled the mag out and the second round was out of position just like yours. I had no problems with the mag at the range earlier in the day. ETA: Pics of mine. http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae3/6644_photo/IMAG0029.jpg http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae3/6644_photo/IMAG0028-1.jpg See these photos prove that Pmags are so good the second round is ready to go home before the first one is even out of the chute. Really, as long as you don't have any feeding issues, run it. Older Pmags had some isolated issues cracking at the mold seam, Magpul made them right as far as I know. Good company, give them a chance. |
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It seems that the walls of the magwell are holding the Pmag tight and together then when you take it out the pmag has a chance to flex a little and the rounds then reposition themselves.
I doubt it would cause a problem in real world situations. Are you ever gonna take a full mag out of your gun and then reinsert it while under fire? I know that doesn't help the problem but it seems that it is a problem that should almost never arise. I am sure Magpul would like to be informed of this though. Sure they will make it right. |
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