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Posted: 11/9/2008 1:10:54 PM EDT
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Why are so many people against "price gouging". I just see it as the free market at work. The demand has drastically increased.... production is slow to meet the increased demand. Prices MUST go up, or else there will be shortages. Instead of retyping all of what I think... I will quote myself. (From "ALL SOLD OUT!!!!!" page 2) "Want to know a secret?.... Your lack of "price gougers" has CAUSED the shortage. If businesses weren't so busy afraid of being boycotted by Socialist gun owners, they might raise their prices high enough that they won't run out of supplies. Supply and Demand people..... If prices go high, you have to pay more, but you can still actually get what you want with a little more money. With artificial price controls, the price is low, but it matters not, because they are out of stock. If you do find one, it is probably an individual selling it.... and they will have heard of this "shortage" and charge even more. So... let's simplify this.... "Price Gouging" (What I call the Free Market): Prices are a little higher... but, some people decided not to buy, so they are in-stock. You can only afford 4 magazines though, instead of the usual 5. "Not Price Gouging" (What I call Socialism): Prices are low... and since there is a reason prices are going higher (Obama), everyone and their grandma goes out a buys a bunch. So... you look for some. You can afford 5.... but they are out of stock, so you get nothing. You go to a gun show... and find an individual who has heard of this "shortage" so they are selling magazines at such a price you can only afford 2, since they don't have to worry about being boycotted. Do you not see? You will end up paying more buying magazines through "non-standard" sources, or you will stand there all day in the "magazine line" hoping they get some in stock. Don't complain about a shortage.... especially if you are the one causing it." Am I missing something here? Or are gun owners just begging for artificially low prices like we have seen do not work in the past? ... Maybe we should get Comrade Obama to ban charging more than 10 dollars for a magazine... |
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LamarBrog or LamarBorg, your way of thinking is a least twisted bro, I'll give ya that. Although there is some (read: very little) hint of meaningful thought you have there... one of the variables you pointed out there, "Obama"; takes advantage of the "freakout factor". This is usually a trait found in "Wal-Mart Hunters", you know, the one's who rush out to buy up as much "cool" stuff as they can when deer season opens, only to be found slumbering in bed at 9 o'clock in the morning, the third and all final Saturdays of said deer season. Simple failure to plan, lack of foresight of "what could come to pass", when something comes up, they "freakout". This too will pass, but those who've planned, will survive a couple weeks, hopefully not months while supply can overcome the deluge. As far as that goes... your own analogy eventually spirals into contradiction of itself. Once all your manufactures catch up with production to meet demand, the next thing ya know... * Demand has returned to normal, Willie Walmart has gone back to being a lemming, satisfied and proud of the 10 Pmags he purchased a few months ago when Hussein was elected... * Now supply is overstocked, price drop clearance sales are issued to get the bowls of the economy moving again, * Willie becomes complacent again and decides he could part out his weekend warrior gear, sells you his Pmags for the cost of cheap radio controlled Hummer he saw at Wally World. * Prices dip back down to the "common" workin' man's acceptable price. * I just realized that I'm starting to overanalyze this thing as you were and I get paid to do that, but am not on the clock yet so I digress. (your point is well taken though, I can see where yer comin' from... i think) Oh yeah... ROLL T-I-D-E ROLL!!!!! |
| I have nothing against basic free market economics. What I have a problem with is the attitude that some vendors have toward folks like us who are their customers. Stating that "We're really busy and we don't have time to look up your order status." will not make me want to spend my money with them ever again. Who knows maybe some vendors know that the end is near for them and that this is the windfall before the O'bama train goes through town. |
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Let's say everyone is correct, and an AWB occurs.
From a buyer's standpoint, scrambling to buy an AR, even if paying more money for it, is the right move. There may be NO option to buy any AR in a year. From a seller's standpoint, there has been a near-unprecedented surge in demand. It makes sense to raise prices since 1)people will pay, 2)replacement costs will certainly be up, and 3)in a year, that entire segment of your business may no longer exist. I don't fault anyone. This is supply and demand in action. The only people that may bother me a little are the "hoarders": those folks who already own a few ARs, but want to buy another hoping to turn a profit. It's still legit, but what if this was milk or flour, and you already had enough for yourself, but were hoarding to take advantage of those who don't? |
| my understanding is that major manurfacturers [magpul, c-products ] are in the process of installing new [expensive] equipment online to produce more mags for the consumers, you and me. they might also be put out of business by "goober", they might be judicious in raising their prices by a few bucks, to pay for their equipment. i'm not gonna wwhine, cry, or snivel––––are you???? |
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Let's say everyone is correct, and an AWB occurs. From a buyer's standpoint, scrambling to buy an AR, even if paying more money for it, is the right move. There may be NO option to buy any AR in a year. From a seller's standpoint, there has been a near-unprecedented surge in demand. It makes sense to raise prices since 1)people will pay, 2)replacement costs will certainly be up, and 3)in a year, that entire segment of your business may no longer exist. I don't fault anyone. This is supply and demand in action. The only people that may bother me a little are the "hoarders": those folks who already own a few ARs, but want to buy another hoping to turn a profit. It's still legit, but what if this was milk or flour, and you already had enough for yourself, but were hoarding to take advantage of those who don't? I am in agreement. In addition, though, I don't feel sorry for anyone buying magazines at higher prices now. Because... A. They were too ignorant to see this coming months ago. If anyone needed supplies just to be able to get by, there we plenty of opportunities when prices were normal and merchandise was in-stock. In the end, you pay the price for not being prepared. B. Individuals buying up magazines they could never use (Honestly, how do you wear out 500 magazines in your lifetime?), either due to OCD or are planning on selling them for more later. If you are planning on profiting off of people, don't fault another for doing the same. That's how I see it... I fall into the 2nd group. I have enough magazines... plenty. I am still buying cheap ones when I find them.... and I don't plan on selling them for the price I payed if they get banned. But that is OK, I won't fault anyone else for doing the same. |
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For a business to change their business model to take advantage of a temporary increase in demand is profiteering. Profiteering can be viewed negatively by regular customers a niche market. Its not really a moral issue so much as a business decision if it was food,medicine,air,water or heating fuel...something that absolutely stood between life and death for folks around him...well yep that sucker needs an education.. Magazines?....naw Let demand drive the market.. Problem here is...it is very luckily given the pettiness of the democrats...and their inability to understand we dont need any more stinking laws...we have far too many as it is... They will come after the whole magilla this time...and this is probably it...for guns ammo magazines and spare parts Get while the gettin is good... imo |
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