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1/19/2005 12:11:07 AM EDT
Since GA Precision is no longer in the picture, anyone have a source for Perma Slik G?  I found one, but he wants $23 a can.
1/19/2005 12:14:15 AM EDT
[#1]
tag
1/19/2005 9:34:27 AM EDT
[#2]
Here are the guys that make this stuff.  I myself am still waiting to hear back on a price..

http://www.everlubeproducts.com/products/1.0.cfm?page=product_display.cfm&mtype=04&spec=16&scode=00&search=Brand%20Family&prod=PermaSlikG


-tnr
MBD
1/19/2005 12:15:41 PM EDT
[#3]
_____It sounds like you have to buy this stuff in bulk just about anywhere.  I spoke to a girl at Everlube and she said that they only sell in cases which go for $100 some odd.  Let me know if anyone finds someone who sells this buy the can.........  

-MBD
1/19/2005 1:28:49 PM EDT
[#4]
You might try a industrial supply store where you live, they usually carry a product like Perma-Slik G.
1/19/2005 1:35:42 PM EDT
[#5]
Not to Hijack your thread, But Does Perma Silk G Have any color to it?
Lets say you have an AR upper & lower that are close in color but not exact, If you give them a coat of PSG will it even the color out?
1/19/2005 10:07:24 PM EDT
[#6]
What happened to Georgi Precision?  I just got 2 cans from them about 10 days ago.
1/19/2005 10:55:42 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Not to Hijack your thread, But Does Perma Silk G Have any color to it?
Lets say you have an AR upper & lower that are close in color but not exact, If you give them a coat of PSG will it even the color out?



The PSG is for refinishing mags.  It will make your AR look like a brand new 30 round mag.  Here is an informative thread by Stickman on using Norrells to refinish your AR.  cwo.pre-ban.com/index.php?showtopic=19024



Quoted:
What happened to Georgi Precision?  I just got 2 cans from them about 10 days ago.



www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=85&t=145812

1/20/2005 4:37:58 AM EDT
[#8]
Can we get back to the original question--"Any other source for Perma slik in addition to GPSS?"

I need to know too...
1/20/2005 4:55:54 AM EDT
[#9]
I just emailed Georgia Precision yesterday.  They are still up and running.  $16 a can and $11.25 for shipping.  Call them or email them, contact info is still on their website.

-MBD
1/20/2005 6:33:34 PM EDT
[#10]
$11.25 for shipping???!!! Is this product a hazardous material? ORM-D?


What gives?
1/20/2005 9:25:52 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
$11.25 for shipping???!!! Is this product a hazardous material? ORM-D?


What gives?



Yeah, it's ORM-D
1/21/2005 5:07:05 AM EDT
[#12]
What does UPS charge to ship UPS ground for ORM-D products--anybody?

1/21/2005 5:10:46 AM EDT
[#13]
Not sure, but I am seriously thinking of just getting some substitute from Brownells.  I would still like to know if there really is any difference between this Permaslik stuff and the KG Coat or the Brownells Moly.  Besides the baking process anyway.  Anyone know how well Permaslik holds up?

-mbd
1/23/2005 3:17:09 AM EDT
[#14]
I am going to search locally to see if anyone here has some.  I was thinking about buying a whole case and then selling it here--just to get a free can or two, but dang on that hazmat shipping charge.  There's an idea for any body to use.

1/24/2005 5:55:47 AM EDT
[#15]
Do you have to bake the permasilk?
1/24/2005 3:08:13 PM EDT
[#16]
I believe 'technically' that you do not--just have to allow it to dry.  I am going to bake my when I get a can w/ the infrared automotive baking lights that we have at work--probably a 10min shot to each side.

1/26/2005 4:55:02 AM EDT
[#17]
For all parties interested:  Update on price from manufacturer--

Case $119.60
Hazmat fee $20
Shipping  zip dependant
Case is 15# IIRC
1/26/2005 12:43:25 PM EDT
[#18]
If anyone is interested in 16oz. aerosol Sandstrom SFL Solid Film Lubricant. Please PM me or send me an email.

Terry
1/28/2005 12:49:12 PM EDT
[#19]
I'm still looking for a good source for 2 cans of Perma Slik G.

Can anyone post known suppliers?  
1/29/2005 7:30:33 AM EDT
[#20]
I called GPSS everyday this week and 3 days last week--he definately is away from the phone.

I had a thought the other day to call the manufacturer and speak w/ distribution or sales and ask if they have any suppliers in my area.

I may just go ahead and try the stuff 2xtap has.

1/29/2005 12:30:02 PM EDT
[#21]
I went to the local Grainger industrial supply store and purchased a product called Moly Dry Film Lubricant, cost around $15.00 a can. I am anxious to try this product  on some of the range mags I have bought lately from the EE. I'll have to wait till the weather gets better, right now everything is covered in ice.
1/30/2005 4:48:16 AM EDT
[#22]
C, check your IM and post feedback on this product.  I have a local grainger also...
1/30/2005 4:22:01 PM EDT
[#23]
I too am very interested in the product that Grainger carries!Please post your results!!!
1/30/2005 4:42:40 PM EDT
[#24]
I went to Grainger's web site and the product they carry is made by Loctite,so I then went to Loctite's web site and found this pdf on their product.Looks like the same stuff just by reading.

tds.loctite.com/tds5/docs/MOLYDFL-EN.pdf
1/31/2005 7:39:23 AM EDT
[#25]
Isaidme, the product I purchased at Grainger is made by Loctite. I have not used it yet, I will post results when I do. I hope it will be a good subtitute for Perma-Slik G.
1/31/2005 12:05:25 PM EDT
[#26]
I also went and bought a product from my local Grainger.  Mine did not have the Loctite brand, so I got the CRC brand for $6.xx/can.

I have a review, but need someone to host about 5 pics(640x480). IM me.

In the mean time:

I got the CRC stuff this morning.  This is my process for prepping these mags:

1.  Disassemble
2.  Soak mag bodies in hot water w/ cleaner--I used Joy cause that's all I had
3.  I used a bottle scrubber brush to clean in/outsides of mags
4.  I also put them on a pan in the oven w/ paper towels, but it was time for din-din, so I only got about 5-7mins of heat.
4a.  It was actually a week before I could get to the mags again
5.  To further prep the mags, I used an automotive product called Final Klean by Dupont to clean any oil/residues
6. I used gardener's wire to hang my mags like in the refinishing thread (this is thin, but has good strength)
7.  It was about 45degrees outside so I used a heat gun to expedite the drying process
8. I applied about 2+ coatings to the outside and only a light spray to the inside(mostly at the feed-lips)
9.  I found that I had to hold the can about 12-14" away to keep from running the lube.
10.  Definately wear gloves--I got spray on both gloves--even on spraying index finger
11.  Went over w/ heat gun to help bake it a little

Notes:  This product goes on very thin, and when dry has an OD green color.  As I was applying initially I thought that I would not like it cause it was not gray, but I think the OD green is pretty cool.
I had 19 mags I think and I covered all the base plates 2x and all the mags except one front and a crappy speckled side of another--can was running out.  

I don't think that I will be able to effectively give feedback as to the longevity--I don't shoot that often.

1/31/2005 2:27:52 PM EDT
[#27]
I went to grainger today and picked up the Loctite brand,man was I tempted to buy the CRC stuff at $6.00+ a can but Im glad I didnt now that I know its green.That might be good news to some of the guys around here with green furniture.Anyway the pdf I posted on the Loctite brand said it was black but I tested it on a scrap piece of aluminum at work and the finish ends up dark grey like the Permaslik.It took quite a few passes to get the depth I was looking for in the finish.I sadly wont get to test it either as the weather forcast looks cold,wet and ugly for a while around my neck of the woods
1/31/2005 3:06:42 PM EDT
[#28]
When I say OD green --it's actually like and grayish OD.

I've got a pic or two for reference.
1/31/2005 6:39:48 PM EDT
[#29]
JHill, how bad was the fumes and smell while baking the mags?That is my biggest problem next to the weather.
2/1/2005 3:44:00 PM EDT
[#30]
I got my can of PSG from Elliott's in Blacksburg, VA.  They're the ones that organize the C&E gunshows in VA.  When I got it at a show (Either Roanoke or Bealeton, IIRC), I picked it up at their table, the owner said he had some more at the shop at the time (this was about 2 years ago).  If they still have it and they take it to the show, you can save on the shipping/hazmat.  I don't remember what I spent, but I think it was something like $12-18 for the can.

Elliott's Blacksburg, N. Main st: 540-953-2550
Elliott's Radford, VA:  540-639-1038
2/1/2005 4:20:00 PM EDT
[#31]
Aerosol cans are haz-mat and orm-d material and have shipping restrictions placed on them, UPS Ground or Fed EX Ground, being an example.

With that being said, a can of Aluma-Hyde II from Brownells only costs $7.95 to ship. That's their standard shipping rate. Two cans of Loctite moly dry film lubricant shipped to some guy I know only cost $5 to ship UPS Ground.
Where are these high shipping rates coming from?
2/1/2005 6:13:46 PM EDT
[#32]
   Norrells Flat Black:



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  Here is a good source of information if you would like to check into the Norrells :

Stickmans Helpfull Post
2/1/2005 6:40:05 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
JHill, how bad was the fumes and smell while baking the mags?That is my biggest problem next to the weather.



I IM'ed isaidme, but realized that it could benefit the board:

I didn't actually bake my mags--I used the heat gun I have to 'go over them' a little after I was done.

2/1/2005 6:46:32 PM EDT
[#34]

       Here are JH's mag pics, they look good:









2/1/2005 6:57:26 PM EDT
[#35]
Would you guys agree w/ my color assessment?  grayish-od green...
2/1/2005 7:02:02 PM EDT
[#36]
JHill Im glad you posted that you sent an IM because I just found out I have alot of IM's that I didnt know about.I assumed that when you get a IM on this site a pop up window shows up.There must be a few folks out there that think im a snob. I am still fairly new to this site!
2/1/2005 7:06:01 PM EDT
[#37]
What are you guys using to strip the old finishes off ?I wish I could find someone with a beadblaster cause other wise in for a world of sanding.
2/1/2005 7:17:43 PM EDT
[#38]
I,

I believe(I am a mag newb) that you actually should NOT try to strip the old finish.  Something to do w/ anodizing.

All that I did was use some paint thinner to remove some spray paint that the previous owner used to distinguish certain mags.

I only did this to the outside of the mag.

Next time I clean some up for refinishing I am going to get some Purple Power or Super Clean to clean out as much powder residue from the insides.  Joy didn't clean it that well, but I am not that concerned about the inside at this point.
2/2/2005 3:16:26 PM EDT
[#39]
I use comet cleanser and a tooth brush for the inside of the used mags I buy.
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