Hi to all! Well, I got my wish & scored a few of these cute little beasts off of ebay... when I received them, I was impressed on how well they were made, and I was smiling right up to when I stuck one in my AR! Might as well have stuck it up my own butt! How'en' the hell do you get the little devils out??? one or two dropped free, but for the most part, you have to break open the rifle to push it out with you thumb! I tried them in several different rifles. They are not the best set up for hunting!! What were they originally made for, who was the brain surgon that thought these up?? What do the guys that have them attach to the bottom plate to ease extraction from the weapon??? I actually do like them, just wish modification wasn't needed to use them?? Thanks, till....later....GT