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6/7/2016 6:01:20 PM EDT
would it be morally wrong to remove my 2000 rounds of fusion MSR out of those shitty 20 round monstrosity of a boxes and store it loose in 30 cal ammo cans?  

i bought it for shtf ammo and its just going to sit in my closet.

6/7/2016 6:03:56 PM EDT
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would it be morally wrong to remove my 2000 rounds of fusion MSR out of those shitty 20 round monstrosity of a boxes and store it loose in 30 cal ammo cans?  

i bought it for shtf ammo and its just going to sit in my closet.

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No, I have about 30K rounds stored in ammo cans.
6/7/2016 6:23:44 PM EDT
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As long as your cans are sealed well and won't allow moisture to accumulate, you'll be set to go. There's a reason those metal boxes are called ammo cans.

The only tiny issue I see potentially occurring is that those rounds being loose will bugger up some of the soft points. That wouldn't bother me, but it might to some people.
6/7/2016 6:28:46 PM EDT
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Why not get a load of stripper clips and store them in 10-round strips?  That's what I do.  That makes them easy to load into magazines rapidly as well. You then store the loaded clips in the ammo cans.

6/7/2016 6:41:05 PM EDT
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Keep them in the box, in side a ammo can, in a dry cool area, and your grand kids kids will be shooting it.
6/7/2016 7:25:18 PM EDT
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Keep them in the box, in side a ammo can, in a dry cool area, and your grand kids kids will be shooting it.
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the boxes are my white whale. they take up too much room with throse silly 20 rounds huge plastic holders. my grand kids will still be able to shoot it stored loose i'm guessing.
6/7/2016 7:25:55 PM EDT
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thats a good idea. i have enought of those to do 800 rounds.
6/7/2016 7:29:47 PM EDT
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I've stored lots of ammo in cans too.  I like to take the site of the box that says what it is and put it at the top so when I open it (or whoever) it's apparent what caliber, grain/type bullet etc.  Lot of the newer boxes also have muzzle velocity/energy info too that doesn't hurt to put in there.
6/7/2016 8:14:43 PM EDT
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As long as your cans are sealed well and won't allow moisture to accumulate, you'll be set to go. There's a reason those metal boxes are called ammo cans.

The only tiny issue I see potentially occurring is that those rounds being loose will bugger up some of the soft points. That wouldn't bother me, but it might to some people.
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funny thing about the soft exposed lead on these.....i have a mag full that i used for accuracy and POI testing in various rifles and some of the bottom rounds have seen alot of firing and i just stuffed new ones on top.

well the bottom rounds had the soft lead nose flattened. so i used my finger nail and scraped it off. underneath that lead it looked like a SMK OTM round. i need to shot those and see if there is a POI shift.
6/7/2016 9:31:26 PM EDT
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Stored loose or in the boxes, they're fine. I'd toss a desiccant inside with the ammo if it's being stored long-term.

Loading them onto stripper clips and getting a few spoons will make your life easier down the road.
6/7/2016 10:31:03 PM EDT
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Put them in magazines.
6/7/2016 11:23:03 PM EDT
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Stored loose or in the boxes, they're fine. I'd toss a desiccant inside with the ammo if it's being stored long-term.



Loading them onto stripper clips and getting a few spoons will make your life easier down the road.
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Stripper clips inside cardboard silencers, and they stack nicely.



 
6/8/2016 12:26:26 AM EDT
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gonna go the stripper route. thanks.
6/8/2016 1:08:37 AM EDT
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thats a good idea. i have enought of those to do 800 rounds.
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Why not get a load of stripper clips and store them in 10-round strips?  That's what I do.  That makes them easy to load into magazines rapidly as well. You then store the loaded clips in the ammo cans.


thats a good idea. i have enought of those to do 800 rounds.


Only 800?  I have about 20K strippers that I brought home when I retired from the Army
6/8/2016 6:06:27 AM EDT
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Use the smaller ammo cans (M8A1 ?). Loose rounds in the bigger ammo cans are really heavy. Then again if you have to bug out, it takes up a lot less space as long as you can tote it....
6/8/2016 9:16:43 AM EDT
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50lbs ammo cans are nice when I dont have time to  get to the gym.
6/8/2016 11:09:41 AM EDT
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What do you guys think about keeping loose rounds in doubled up gallon ziplocs in an ammo can for long term storage? I'm looking to store my reloads this way.

OP you can keep loose rounds in a can, I've done that but it seems like they end up dingy looking after awhile. Could just be in my head.
6/8/2016 2:26:45 PM EDT
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Only 800?  I have about 20K strippers that I brought home when I retired from the Army
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Why not get a load of stripper clips and store them in 10-round strips?  That's what I do.  That makes them easy to load into magazines rapidly as well. You then store the loaded clips in the ammo cans.


thats a good idea. i have enought of those to do 800 rounds.


Only 800?  I have about 20K strippers that I brought home when I retired from the Army


you mil guys get all the cool sheet.....for free!
6/8/2016 2:27:23 PM EDT
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Use the smaller ammo cans (M8A1 ?). Loose rounds in the bigger ammo cans are really heavy. Then again if you have to bug out, it takes up a lot less space as long as you can tote it....
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yep, that was my plan was to use the little halfy cans.
6/8/2016 3:28:37 PM EDT
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What do you guys think about keeping loose rounds in doubled up gallon ziplocs in an ammo can for long term storage? I'm looking to store my reloads this way.

OP you can keep loose rounds in a can, I've done that but it seems like they end up dingy looking after awhile. Could just be in my head.
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if you are all ready in an ammo can that seals good, i'm not sure the bags offer much extra. its not like you are driving around with them and the rounds are rattling against each other. now many if you used sammitch size zip locks, maybe....especially if you are in and out of the can using up the reloads.
6/8/2016 6:17:38 PM EDT
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Its more to separate 55gr FMJ from 55gr SP and 75gr OTM loads, was just curious if heat could cause condensation inside bags etc.  I dont see how it could be detrimental, but yes aside from segregating loads the benefits are debateable.
6/8/2016 8:46:12 PM EDT
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I recently reloaded up a 1k rounds with primers that have been stored in an non climate controlled shop for the last 12 years.
Those primers were just sitting on a shelf in the original package.

Unless you store your loaded ammo underwater I  doubt you have much to worry about.
6/8/2016 9:15:52 PM EDT
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This.  If it is taking up space it might as well be in a mag.

6/8/2016 9:26:56 PM EDT
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Why not get a load of stripper clips and store them in 10-round strips?  That's what I do.  That makes them easy to load into magazines rapidly as well. You then store the loaded clips in the ammo cans.


thats a good idea. i have enought of those to do 800 rounds.


Only 800?  I have about 20K strippers that I brought home when I retired from the Army


you mil guys get all the cool sheet.....for free!

My stash of clips came from "policing" various ranges and quite a bit of dumpster diving.  I'm not in the same class as DaveP1 in terms of stash size, but I got "enough" to keep my rounds stored the way I want them.

As for "load them in magazines for storage," I would rather spend money on components than 50 extra magazines.  I have "enough" mags at the moment, and while I'll be buying more to help keep the 5.56 and 300 Blackout separate, buying magazines just to store ammunition strikes me as a faulty concept.  To each his own, but I'm in the "on clips, ready to load" camp.
6/8/2016 9:36:55 PM EDT
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Use the smaller ammo cans (M8A1 ?). Loose rounds in the bigger ammo cans are really heavy. Then again if you have to bug out, it takes up a lot less space as long as you can tote it....
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The ".30 Caliber ammo can" is the M19A1.  The ".50 caliber ammo can" is the M2A1 (or M2A2).  I don't recommend "toting" a .50 cal can full of rifle ammo very far, but M19A1 cans are fairly easy to manage when full of 5.56mm ammo on clips.

Unless you're going for the "reenactor" vibe, you probably won't want to load those clipped rounds in bandoleers,  But DO make sure you have at least one magazine adapter (spoon) in each ammo can.  I've made 550 cord loops to keep a number of my spoons more "user friendly" and easier to keep track of.  The "ultimate" in stripper loading is, hands down, the "StripLULA" from MagLula.  It solves every problem using strippers with AR-type magazines presents.
6/9/2016 12:28:11 PM EDT
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Its more to separate 55gr FMJ from 55gr SP and 75gr OTM loads, was just curious if heat could cause condensation inside bags etc.  I dont see how it could be detrimental, but yes aside from segregating loads the benefits are debateable.
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well that makes sense...and i hadnt considered the condensation issue. being in southern AZ, we dont have much of a humidy problem, except for july and august.
6/9/2016 6:05:30 PM EDT
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well that makes sense...and i hadnt considered the condensation issue. being in southern AZ, we dont have much of a humidy problem, except for july and august.
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Its more to separate 55gr FMJ from 55gr SP and 75gr OTM loads, was just curious if heat could cause condensation inside bags etc.  I dont see how it could be detrimental, but yes aside from segregating loads the benefits are debateable.


well that makes sense...and i hadnt considered the condensation issue. being in southern AZ, we dont have much of a humidy problem, except for july and august.

Just put then in the can and seal it up before monsoon season. If the can/can-bag is humidity free when sealed, no moisture can get in. It would be a good idea to put a dessicant pack in each bag or can for piece-of-mind.
6/9/2016 6:31:59 PM EDT
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Just toss them in the can with one or two desiccant bags and close it. The most important thing is that you put the ammo can somewhere where the temperature never drops below the dew point, otherwise the air in the can will condensate/ releases most of the water in air, the water will then sit on your rounds for some time.
6/9/2016 6:51:23 PM EDT
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