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5/19/2012 4:34:57 AM EDT
Hey guys. I was cleaning my rifle with the garage door open the other day, and my neighbor wandered in. We got to talking, and during our conversation he said that if he is going to store ammo for a long time he keeps it in his spare fridge (beer fridge). He said because of the cold, and lack of humidity in there, it will last forever. Seems a bit odd to me, but what do I know? Do any of you do that, or have you ever heard of that?
5/19/2012 5:57:13 AM EDT
[#1]
I know cold extends battery and photographic film(if they even make that anymore) storage life, and don't see how cold temps, not freezing, could hurt ammo.
5/19/2012 6:00:44 AM EDT
[#2]
One issue I can see with this is when you take the ammo out, depending on the ambient temp, you'll have condensation form.
5/19/2012 6:57:29 AM EDT
[#3]
2k 223 stored in room @ room temp, in ammo cans with good rubber seals.
5/19/2012 8:27:33 AM EDT
[#4]
I agree with the condensation theory, but he has them in ziplock bags. So I'm guessing that wouldn't be an issue. I'm not going to do it myself, i have a closet in the basement with my ammo can(s). Sounds like nobody else uses the fridge
5/19/2012 10:43:27 AM EDT
[#5]
Heat can decompose powder. I know there is a heat limit in one of the regs for storage of ammo. Saying that surplus ammo works fine, is stored in shitholes around the world w/o any thought on the temps involved.



While there migth be a super small gain in "cold" storage its a waste IMO. Use the space for meat.


 
5/19/2012 11:12:56 AM EDT
[#6]
I work in the cold and it seems to kill my battery faster.....
5/19/2012 12:03:35 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
I work in the cold and it seems to kill my battery faster.....


Dig.  My Mom keeps batteries in her fridge, but I know car batteries always die in the winter, so I don't store them cold.
5/19/2012 5:44:59 PM EDT
[#8]
Ammo cans with good seals is kinda hard to beat ,Leave the fridge for food or dead hookers
5/19/2012 7:33:30 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I work in the cold and it seems to kill my battery faster.....


Dig.  My Mom keeps batteries in her fridge, but I know car batteries always die in the winter, so I don't store them cold.


Car batteries do not "die" in the cold. The energy results from a electrochemical reaction. The rate of the reaction is reduced at lower temps, and hence they are not "dead", but are less capable of delivering the expected current.

Batteries have internal self-discharge which is slowed down at lower temps due to slowing down the electrochemical reaction. This makes them last longer "on the shelf".

5/19/2012 10:19:59 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Heat can decompose powder. I know there is a heat limit in one of the regs for storage of ammo. Saying that surplus ammo works fine, is stored in shitholes around the world w/o any thought on the temps involved.

While there migth be a super small gain in "cold" storage its a waste IMO. Use the space for meat.
 


THis....why use the electricity (or whatever your fridge runs on) spending $, keeping ammo cold..., when (as many have mentioned) it will last a long time stored properly....use the fridge for food....
5/20/2012 4:15:49 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Hey guys. I was cleaning my rifle with the garage door open the other day, and my neighbor wandered in. We got to talking, and during our conversation he said that if he is going to store ammo for a long time he keeps it in his spare fridge (beer fridge). He said because of the cold, and lack of humidity in there, it will last forever. Seems a bit odd to me, but what do I know? Do any of you do that, or have you ever heard of that?


This advice is nonsense, to say the least.
5/21/2012 9:10:57 AM EDT
[#12]
Unless the bullets are made of frozen meat, its a waste of time, energy, and money.
5/21/2012 9:18:41 AM EDT
[#13]
Stupid idea.

I shoot Turk 8mm from the 40's that's been stored in god knows what conditions, and Soviet bloc stuff from the 60's and seldom if ever experience a problem. Some times people just think too much.
5/21/2012 3:19:59 PM EDT
[#14]
Cool and dry with as few fluctuations in temperature over time as possible. This gem of info from a Marine ammo tech as we were shooting up 1944 vintage .50 BMG ammo that had been stored in big earth-covered concrete ammo bunkers...

1DD
5/26/2012 8:56:35 AM EDT
[#15]



Quoted:


I agree with the condensation theory, but he has them in ziplock bags. So I'm guessing that wouldn't be an issue. I'm not going to do it myself, i have a closet in the basement with my ammo can(s). Sounds like nobody else uses the fridge


True, but unless those bags were vacuum packed, there's already moisture in them.



 
5/26/2012 1:31:52 PM EDT
[#16]
I'm sure somewhere there is a SPEC.gov/.mil that dictates the CORRECT temp./hum/time/rotation ect.  Sun /moon/stars....
5/26/2012 2:10:30 PM EDT
[#17]




Quoted:

Stupid idea.



I shoot Turk 8mm from the 40's that's been stored in god knows what conditions, and Soviet bloc stuff from the 60's and seldom if ever experience a problem. Some times people just think too much.




Bingo.
5/26/2012 2:24:00 PM EDT
[#18]




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I'm sure somewhere there is a SPEC.gov/.mil that dictates the CORRECT temp./hum/time/rotation ect. Sun /moon/stars....




No. There isn't (for all practical purposes) . Military ammuniton is stored in ammunition bunkers that are not temperature controlled and field ammunition supply points that range from shipping containers to the open air.



Small arms ammunition stored in ammo cans that are 'dry' (i.e., not full of water) in conditions that people can live in will last longer than you.
5/26/2012 2:42:18 PM EDT
[#19]
I don't know about the cold but condensation would be a problem I would think.
5/26/2012 4:21:47 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
One issue I can see with this is when you take the ammo out, depending on the ambient temp, you'll have condensation form.


This
5/27/2012 4:26:59 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I work in the cold and it seems to kill my battery faster.....


Dig.  My Mom keeps batteries in her fridge, but I know car batteries always die in the winter, so I don't store them cold.


Car batteries do not "die" in the cold. The energy results from a electrochemical reaction. The rate of the reaction is reduced at lower temps, and hence they are not "dead", but are less capable of delivering the expected current.

Batteries have internal self-discharge which is slowed down at lower temps due to slowing down the electrochemical reaction. This makes them last longer "on the shelf".



Yep.....what he said
5/27/2012 4:59:40 PM EDT
[#22]
How humid is his home that storing ammunition at room temprature in his house is a problem?

If the weather is miserable for ammunition, its miserable for people.
5/27/2012 6:29:38 PM EDT
[#23]
And here we thought the people vacuum-packing their ammo were going overboard.



Most of the ammo whores here would need a garage full of fridges to manage their stash - that would get expensive.


 
5/28/2012 12:37:45 PM EDT
[#24]
I was alway told if you are comfortable your ammo is comfortable in your home. So ammo in cans have worked great for me.
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