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3/3/2010 9:13:11 PM EDT
Today I picked up some sealed wooden crate ammo from a friend an Im not sure what I have-
#1-
Two 50 cal cans in a wooden crate. 600 rounds per can in green bandoliers with 10 rounds per pouch in a black plastic strippe clip guide(pretty slick and they work!). Side of the cans are marked A059 Ball C77 I can't make out the letters on the brass but it looks like IAI and a cross.

#2
This ammo is in a big heavy card board box- 30 rounds per open top box - each 10 rounds on a plastic stripper clip and these came with a small stripper clip guide. Brass is marked LC 09.  

What gr is this stuff? Any good? All the ammo is super clean and shiny. Stored in a storage vacility.  Thanks
3/3/2010 9:47:31 PM EDT
[#1]
C77 Ball is a steel penetrator round I beleive  made by SNC TEC
62g steel penetrator dont know if its any good I do know it comes on black plastic stripper clips
and its Canadian
3/3/2010 10:10:25 PM EDT
[#2]
REALLY! Is this like the SS109 round?
3/3/2010 10:13:56 PM EDT
[#3]
I found this on google...
C-77 Ball
C-77 ball projectiles deliver outstanding accuracy. The average
standard deviation measured at 550 m (600 yd.) is approximately
50% lower than maximum permissible NATO limits for that
distance. Accuracy maintained over the production of 60 million
rounds is shown in Figure 4.
The hardness of the steel penetrator and the assembly of the
projectile components are such that 100% penetration is obtained
under the conditions shown in Table 1.
Thickness Distance
of target from the gun
mm in. m yd.
NATO 1020 steel plate (55/70 RB) 3.5 0.14 570 623
Structural steel plate (80 RB) 3 0.12 700 766
Structural steel plate (80 RB) 5 0.20 400 437
2219 aluminum alloy armour plate 12.5 0.50 400 437
2219 aluminum alloy armour plate 19 0.75 300 328
Note that penetration capability decreases at temperatures below -10ºC (14ºF)
Table 1: 100% penetration into various targets
Residual velocity and kinetic energy, as a function of the distance from
the muzzle of the gun, are presented in Figure 5.
Maximum chamber pressure is maintained well below maximum
permissible NATO limits [380 MPa (55,100 psi)], (see Figure 6) ensuring
that the ammunition is safe to use and functions properly in all
weapons. Moreover, the propellant is selected to keep the flame
temperature as low as possible. The combination of these two factors
accounts for the fact that barrel wear and erosion problems have never
been experienced by any customer.
3/4/2010 3:42:56 AM EDT
[#4]
A059 is the DODIC for M855 on 10-round stripper clips.  If it's marked "C77" that means it's Canadian, which goes along with the IVI headstamp (I'll bet you misread it).

The stuff in #2 sounds like the Stateside distribution packaging for standard ammo-which would also mean that it's M855
3/4/2010 3:48:48 AM EDT
[#5]
So the C77 is NOT penetrator??.. Correct?
What gr is this ammo?
3/4/2010 8:38:45 AM EDT
[#6]
No it is M855 Is penetrator its just the Canadian version of it
3/4/2010 2:43:13 PM EDT
[#7]
Good stuff?!??
3/4/2010 4:18:04 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Good stuff?!??


Yes...
3/4/2010 6:47:51 PM EDT
[#9]
Whats the difference in XM193 and 855?
3/4/2010 6:52:31 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Whats the difference in XM193 and 855?


XM193 is a 55 grain bullet without a penetrator and the 855 is a 62 grain bullet with a penetrator.

3/5/2010 3:44:29 AM EDT
[#11]
"Penetrator" in reference to the M855 round is a misnomer.  It's actually a mild steel insert that moves the center of gravity of the bullet farther back, ensuring longer point-forward flight.  The design criteria for the M855 bullet was to penetrate a "standard NATO steel helmet" at 600m, which M193 can do sometimes, but since the lighter bullet can yaw a lot before it gets to 600m, it's seldom point-forward so it doesn't always go through helmet steel.  By keeping the M855 bullet point-forward, the insert allows it to penetrate this type of steel consistently.

M855 is anything but "armor piercing," and is specifically listed by the ATF as NOT AP.  "Penetrator" usually goes with armor piercing terminology.
3/5/2010 6:38:15 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Good stuff?!??


Yes...


Better than  good, it's great ammo IME

3/5/2010 7:58:55 AM EDT
[#13]
Thanks... it is super clean...
3/5/2010 9:46:24 AM EDT
[#14]
In before the read the ammo oracle suggestion
3/5/2010 9:49:10 AM EDT
[#15]
The stuff is worth at least fifty cents a pop.
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