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2/22/2010 4:23:37 PM EDT
For all you Garand shooters, I got the following e-mail update from the CMP this morning:

"MORE .30-06 HXP AMMO SOON: Our most recent purchase of HXP ammunition began arriving on Feb 17, 2010. It will take another 4-5 weeks before the full shipment is received. Until we actually receive the entire shipment, we will not know what packaging configurations will be available or the amount of each configuration. We do not yet know what our final cost will be. We do know that the quantity is large enough to satisfy our customer needs for several years. We will not accept any pre-orders or establish a waiting list. Thanks for your support and patience. We expect to again begin accepting orders by the end of March, 2010."
2/22/2010 5:03:04 PM EDT
[#1]
Wonder if its surplus or they're getting HXP to make it for them?
2/22/2010 5:33:48 PM EDT
[#2]
yay!  I have a hungary m1.
2/23/2010 8:13:13 PM EDT
[#3]
We do know that the quantity is large enough to satisfy our customer needs for several years.


This is what they said last time and it sold very fast due to dealers buying it by the truckload to resell at gun shows.
2/24/2010 8:57:18 AM EDT
[#4]





Quoted:





We do know that the quantity is large enough to satisfy our customer needs for several years.






This is what they said last time and it sold very fast due to dealers buying it by the truckload to resell at gun shows.




They will still have the 10 can/year limit that followed all that.





 
2/24/2010 11:25:25 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
yay!  I have a hungary m1.


Mine is all US GI, and not made in Hungary.
2/24/2010 1:04:22 PM EDT
[#6]
Interesting either way. Hopefully it'll still be cheap.
2/24/2010 5:03:34 PM EDT
[#7]
Its surplus and no decisions have been made to if there will be limits
2/24/2010 5:55:05 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
For all you Garand shooters, I got the following e-mail update from the CMP this morning:

"MORE .30-06 HXP AMMO SOON: Our most recent purchase of HXP ammunition began arriving on Feb 17, 2010. It will take another 4-5 weeks before the full shipment is received. Until we actually receive the entire shipment, we will not know what packaging configurations will be available or the amount of each configuration.We do not yet know what our final cost will be. We do know that the quantity is large enough to satisfy our customer needs for several years. We will not accept any pre-orders or establish a waiting list. Thanks for your support and patience. We expect to again begin accepting orders by the end of March, 2010."


translation - expect a major price increase
2/24/2010 5:57:24 PM EDT
[#9]
...any vague notion what the tariff will be?

<give or take>
2/24/2010 7:04:01 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:

Quoted:
We do know that the quantity is large enough to satisfy our customer needs for several years.


This is what they said last time and it sold very fast due to dealers buying it by the truckload to resell at gun shows.

They will still have the 10 can/year limit that followed all that.
 


Maybe not. In general they don't like to put limits on their a ammo sales, and the main man at CMP recently said they will do anything to avoid placing limits. They don't seem to care that people resell it.
2/24/2010 9:26:38 PM EDT
[#11]
YAY! I recently went to Anniston, AL and purchased a Garand from the CMP. I only have 240 rounds that I bought two years before I bought a 30.06. I need a few k more.
2/25/2010 10:40:49 AM EDT
[#12]



Quoted:



We do know that the quantity is large enough to satisfy our customer needs for several years.




This is what they said last time and it sold very fast due to dealers buying it by the truckload to resell at gun shows.


Lots of speculation going on over on the CMP forums, consensus seems to be that they're getting in the neighborhood of 50 million rounds.



BTW, it's greek surplus.



I've been eagerly awaiting them to start selling it.  No way I'm paying $1/rnd for the federal M1 stuff, I'm not that desperate...I can wait a month or two.



 
2/25/2010 8:26:23 PM EDT
[#13]
A couple questions.  Do you need to be part of a representative group to buy ammo only?  Also, are they accepting orders now and setting up a waitlist, or do you have to wait until they say it is available then it's first come, first served?  Thanks!
2/26/2010 2:58:57 AM EDT
[#14]
No waiting list and you must meet qualifications. Its all listed on web site
3/4/2010 10:44:07 PM EDT
[#15]
The CMP has now posted the HXP for sale on their website. They have both the 192rd spam cans in bando's and enblocs for $96/can (.50 cents round) as well as the 240 round spam cans for $120/can. See link below:

http://www.thecmp.org/ammosales.htm
3/5/2010 3:34:12 AM EDT
[#16]
I know it's still the best deal going, but that'a a tremendous jump in price. I wonder if their cost really went up that much or if they just raised the price for profit.
3/5/2010 3:50:58 AM EDT
[#17]


Greece's economy is in bad shape right now.
3/5/2010 3:54:48 AM EDT
[#18]
There's also a lot of labor involved in inventorying and handling a bunch of ammo-and CMP is running with a fairly low budget.
3/5/2010 5:29:15 AM EDT
[#19]
No one is happy when they run out. The alternative is new manuafacture at double the price. Don't worry, be happy.
3/5/2010 5:37:16 AM EDT
[#20]


From 2007:

     Qty         Price  Item-No         Item-Description
–––––––––– ––––––––––––- ––––––––––––––- ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
       1       $168.00  407-CASE        Greek .30-06 Ammo-HXP (Pyrkal)
                                        manuf/boxer primed-768 rds/cs
          ––––––––––––-
               $168.00  Sales Total
From 2008:
     Qty         Price  Item-No         Item-Description
–––––––––– ––––––––––––- ––––––––––––––- ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
       1       $200.00  407-CASE        M2 Ball, .30-06 Pyrkal boxer
                                        primed-768 rds/cs (in clips)
          ––––––––––––-
              $200.00  Sales Total
From 2009:
     Qty         Price  Item-No         Item-Description
–––––––––– ––––––––––––- ––––––––––––––- ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
       1         $3.00  PC104           Wooden ammo box, large
                                        26 1/2x 10 1/2x 9 1/2" (LxWxH)
       4        $60.00  407-CAN         M2 Ball, .30-06 Pyrkal boxer
                                        primed-192 rds/cn (in clips)
          ––––––––––––-
              $243.00  Sales Total
Now 2010:

At least we can still buy it.

 
 



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3/5/2010 6:06:23 AM EDT
[#21]
And what ammo hasnt gone up in price since 2007?
3/5/2010 1:31:57 PM EDT
[#22]
I went ahead and ordered my limit of 10 cans on en blocs at 54 cents per round delivered. They said three weeks before shipping.
3/5/2010 8:46:17 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:





And what ammo hasnt gone up in price since 2007?





Take a look at the plot. The trend is not exactly linear.
I think this is a good move by the CMP. The 10 can limit and the $0.50 per round + shipping price should discourage dealers and MG shooters from buying it all up this time.
In the end, the sales technique that makes the most money while accomplishing the civilian marksmanship mission is the best one.
However, the rules have changed again. No longer is the Garand a cheaper to feed alternative to an AR10/G3/FAL/M14 type weapon. Both M2 and M80 ball now cost about $0.50 a round. Make future battle rifle purchase decisions accordingly.






 
 
 
 
3/6/2010 3:25:45 AM EDT
[#24]
Surplus 7.62x51 has been at .50 per rd and higher for years. Just reciently has it dropped some. Most of the surplus 7.62 is berdan primed while m2 ball HXP is Boxer which makes it even a better deal. You can sell the brass for .10 per rd , enblocs for .80 each which makes the HXP down to .30 per rd. Not to bad if you ask me
3/6/2010 7:07:57 PM EDT
[#25]
Please report back with info on what headstamp date is on the new stuff.
3/7/2010 3:48:33 AM EDT
[#26]
it varies from the 60's to th 80's
3/7/2010 12:19:10 PM EDT
[#27]
The old pricing was about a break-even for reloaders. The new pricing makes reloading the less expensive option now. It's a good thing I only shoot a few CMP Garand matches a year...

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