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11/24/2009 7:13:13 PM EDT
Here are the visual difference between the 2.  

I haven't shot either, but i kinda like the tula as it doesnt have that red primer sealant.

http://www.raymatos.com/images/wolftula.jpg
11/25/2009 7:03:10 AM EDT
[#1]
Anything but wolf
11/25/2009 7:29:13 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Here are the visual difference between the 2.  

I haven't shot either, but i kinda like the tula as it doesnt have that red primer sealant.

http://www.raymatos.com/images/wolftula.jpg


What does it matter? It's not like we're going to reload it and need to decap the stuff.
11/25/2009 7:59:46 AM EDT
[#3]





Quoted:



Anything but wolf








Wolf IS Tula. Wolf doesn't make ammo - they are an importer. [ETA] Ammo FAQ, entry #3.





 
11/25/2009 4:23:17 PM EDT
[#4]
I was just pointing out the difference.
11/25/2009 4:57:06 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Here are the visual difference between the 2.  

I haven't shot either, but i kinda like the tula as it doesnt have that red primer sealant.

http://www.raymatos.com/images/wolftula.jpg


What does it matter? It's not like we're going to reload it and need to decap the stuff.


It matters because there is no more red stuff to flake off and make a mess in your rifle.
11/25/2009 4:58:49 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Here are the visual difference between the 2.  

I haven't shot either, but i kinda like the tula as it doesnt have that red primer sealant.

http://www.raymatos.com/images/wolftula.jpg


What does it matter? It's not like we're going to reload it and need to decap the stuff.



And some people do reload the stuff.  It is boxer primed and it is good for reloading a couple of times at least, compared to brass which can be reloaded quite a few times depending on how hot you load it.
11/26/2009 9:02:54 AM EDT
[#7]
From your picture, you are comparing "Wolf" (made at Tula) and Ulyanovsk...

As has already been mentioned, "Wolf" is only a trademark name. Ammunition from a variaty of manufacturers can be found in "Wolf" boxes.

Some people want the primers sealed, and sealed or not makes no difference when decapping for reloading...

Interesting that Uly is now also making boxer primed steel cases. Last time I looked, only Tula was making them.

1DD

11/26/2009 9:24:39 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
From your picture, you are comparing "Wolf" (made at Tula) and Ulyanovsk...

As has already been mentioned, "Wolf" is only a trademark name. Ammunition from a variaty of manufacturers can be found in "Wolf" boxes.

Some people want the primers sealed, and sealed or not makes no difference when decapping for reloading...

Interesting that Uly is now also making boxer primed steel cases. Last time I looked, only Tula was making them.

1DD




So you are saying that Tula makes ammo, but they are selling Ulyanovsk ammo in Tula boxes?
11/26/2009 3:51:49 PM EDT
[#9]
The only caliber currently made in Ulyanovsk is 7.62x39. It is imported in the US under brands Wolf, Herters, Ulyanovsk Cartridge Works and Tula Cartridge Works, all actually made in Ulyanovsk factory. That's right, Ulyanovsk made ammu partially imported under Tula Cartridge Works name.

Tula cartridge Works currently manufactures and exports to the US all the calibers, but 7.62x39. Their .223, .308, 7.62x54R, .30 Carbine, 9x19, .40S&W, .45ACP,  are imported under the brands Wolf, Herters and Tula Cartridge Works.
11/26/2009 4:00:43 PM EDT
[#10]
Pictured Wolf .223 with sealed primer is old  production, all currently made  Tula ammo comes without sealer on it.
11/26/2009 5:31:07 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Anything but wolf

Wolf IS Tula. Wolf doesn't make ammo - they are an importer. [ETA] Ammo FAQ, entry #3.
 


Gotcha !! In that case then, anything but that TULA[;) imported by Wolf.
11/27/2009 4:27:10 AM EDT
[#12]
When did Uly stop making 5.45x39mm? Must have been fairly recent, because we just bought some about a year ago... sold under the "military classic" Wolf brand.

1DD
11/27/2009 5:48:43 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
When did Uly stop making 5.45x39mm?
1DD


At the end of last year.
11/27/2009 6:04:36 AM EDT
[#14]



Quoted:


The only caliber currently made in Ulyanovsk is 7.62x39. It is imported in the US under brands Wolf, Herters, Ulyanovsk Cartridge Works and Tula Cartridge Works, all actually made in Ulyanovsk factory. That's right, Ulyanovsk made ammo partially imported under Tula Cartridge Works name.



Tula cartridge Works currently manufactures and exports to the US all the calibers, but 7.62x39. Their .223, .308, 7.62x54R, .30 Carbine, 9x19, .40S&W, .45ACP,  are imported under the brands Wolf, Herters and Tula Cartridge Works.


Holy cow - you're right. I didn't even bother looking at the case head stamp that the OP posted. That's an Ulyanovsk head stamp on the Tula ammo. I just figured that it was Tula made - looks like I'll have to update that part of the FAQ.



 
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