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4/14/2009 5:11:55 AM EDT
I got some 7.62x51 from Samco.  It is packed in 200rnd battle packs. A couple of the packs had small ,like 1/16", holes in the package.
Since the seal was broken, I opened it up and found that some of the cardboard boxes had been chewed on and lots of tiny brown "pinheads" in the bottom.
It looks like some insect chewed a hole thru the pack and then started on the cardboard.  I can't tell if the "pinheads" are egg cases or worm poo.

Anybody else ever see this?
Should I do something to make sure no bugs continue to live?
Is this where zombies come from?
4/14/2009 5:23:07 AM EDT
[#1]
Well u never know where they where stored..I would leave ammo in the boxes and put in 5 gallon buckets..Get the best insect spray and spray them and put air tight lid on for a month to make sure any eggs are kiiled...IF they are chewing on cardboard t(wood product) they would chew on your furniture ect...........You can also put a box of it in a baggie and take it to your local County Extension Service..They help famers ect to identify pests..They have helped me a few times...Good luck and let us know how u do..
4/14/2009 5:31:10 AM EDT
[#2]
or if you don't want pesticide all over your ammo you could sealed them with oxygen absorbers or a vacuum sealer like long term storage food.
4/14/2009 5:46:59 AM EDT
[#3]
Best way to get rid of .308 ammo worms is the chamber of my 1919. Send them over for fumagation.
4/14/2009 7:28:56 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
I got some 7.62x51 from Samco.  It is packed in 200rnd battle packs. A couple of the packs had small ,like 1/16", holes in the package.
Since the seal was broken, I opened it up and found that some of the cardboard boxes had been chewed on and lots of tiny brown "pinheads" in the bottom.
It looks like some insect chewed a hole thru the pack and then started on the cardboard.  I can't tell if the "pinheads" are egg cases or worm poo.

Anybody else ever see this?
Should I do something to make sure no bugs continue to live?
Is this where zombies come from?


Many threads opn the M14 boards, some ammo is fine, other times it was tarnished.

For long tern, i would take it out, check for corrosion, then re-pack on stippers in a ammo can,
Maybe tumble it first if its bad, along with shooting some for function.
4/14/2009 7:50:27 AM EDT
[#5]
5 gallon bucket, put in some dry ice, wait for it to fill with 'fog', seal the bucket for a week or so, or as long as you want to store it that way. Critters don't live long without O2. This will also inhibit oxidation.
4/14/2009 7:54:08 AM EDT
[#6]
You could just seal the 5 gal bucket or ammo cans and set it in the sun all day.  They will be cooked by late afternoon.
4/14/2009 8:19:27 AM EDT
[#7]
It is NOT a good idea to expose ammo to extremes in temperature, cold to hot or vice versa.  TaylorWSO is right on with his advice.
4/14/2009 9:07:54 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
It is NOT a good idea to expose ammo to extremes in temperature, cold to hot or vice versa.  TaylorWSO is right on with his advice.


Come on, 130 deg for 2 hrs won't affect it at all
4/14/2009 2:53:49 PM EDT
[#9]
UPS has just opened an ammo worm treatment line of service. all you have to do is take all of your "infected" ammo to your local UPS store, give the ammo and an address which you receive from me via PM, and pay for the service. easy as that.
4/14/2009 5:50:30 PM EDT
[#10]
My grade 2 Guat had that exactly as described... I suspected it was termites. Haven't seen a bug (or zombie) in the basement since. I wouldn't worry about it.
4/14/2009 8:04:57 PM EDT
[#11]
i bought a few K of the guat when it was plentiful and have always been worried about termites seeping out of those wooden crates....
but no problems so far!
4/15/2009 6:20:42 AM EDT
[#12]
Yeah, it was termites.  SOG had the same problem with a bunch of .308 Hirtenberger a couple years ago.  Some of the ammo crates were crumbling, many of the battle packs were chewed through & the bugs were working on the cardboard.  Lotsa bug poo too.  No problem, the crates were hosed with insecticide (or they wouldn't have gotten in-country).  Welcome to the wonders of third world ammo storage ........
4/15/2009 6:28:19 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Quoted:
It is NOT a good idea to expose ammo to extremes in temperature, cold to hot or vice versa.  TaylorWSO is right on with his advice.


Come on, 130 deg for 2 hrs won't affect it at all


And there's a good chance those mild temps won't affect an insect at all.
4/15/2009 8:05:22 AM EDT
[#14]
I have heard reports about the Samco ammo having worms and some slight corrosion.  What is everyone's opinion on the condition of the 308?  Buy or don't buy?
4/15/2009 9:43:24 AM EDT
[#15]
Those have got to be some pretty tough bugs, chewing through that poly and such.  
4/15/2009 6:58:25 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
I have heard reports about the Samco ammo having worms and some slight corrosion.  What is everyone's opinion on the condition of the 308?  Buy or don't buy?


Yes there is corrosion so if you are buying to stock up for SHTF I would say look elsewhere.
If you plan to plink it away soon, you should be OK.
4/16/2009 3:58:06 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
It is NOT a good idea to expose ammo to extremes in temperature, cold to hot or vice versa.  TaylorWSO is right on with his advice.


Come on, 130 deg for 2 hrs won't affect it at all


And there's a good chance those mild temps won't affect an insect at all.


130 is not mild, especially for a tiny bug. It will kill them all.  Standard treatment for insect infested wood it so cover it in plastic and leave it in the sun.

Ever left you car out in the sun?


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