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Posted: 4/6/2009 4:28:13 PM EDT
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In your guys opinion, how much ammo shoud a person have for each caliber they own (Rifle and Handgun)???
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In your guys opinion, how much ammo shoud a person have for each caliber they own (Rifle and Handgun)??? This is really subjective. I would start with 1k for your rifle and 300 for your pistol. To practice, get .22 and stock the other. Just remember, your pistol is a last resort arm...you will want to use the rifle, so stock according. |
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7's the key number here. Think about it. 7-Elevens. 7 doors. 7, man, that's the number. 7 chipmunks twirlin' on a branch, eatin' lots of sunflowers on my uncle's ranch. You know that old children's tale from the sea. It's like you're dreamin' about Gorgonzola cheese when it's clearly Brie time, baby. Step into my office. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9mioHO4hoM |
| This is my personal formula for SHTF ammo numbers. I go with 2xbasic loads for each weapon. For example, my personal basic load for my M4 is 11x30rd mags, so 11x30 is 330. Multiply that by two for 660, round up to 700 rds on hand for that weapon at all times. Anything higher than that is practice ammo. Again just my personal formula. |
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1000rds - for self defense per rifle or pistol caliber. This is SHTF do not use unless it is go time. Shotgun 500rds slug and buck mix. 5000rds - for range use per caliber. Do I have this much? Hell no, only rich people or folks who stocked up several years back can do these numbers. |
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This is my personal formula for SHTF ammo numbers. I go with 2xbasic loads for each weapon. For example, my personal basic load for my M4 is 11x30rd mags, so 11x30 is 330. Multiply that by two for 660, round up to 700 rds on hand for that weapon at all times. Anything higher than that is practice ammo. Again just my personal formula. OK, but what are you going to do if SHTF and you don't have a tank to carry those 11 30rd mags with? Then what? 
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None!!!! Guns are evil. Ammo will be useless!!! Send all your weapons and ammo to me for proper disposal. he he he he he. I would have to say as much as you can afford.
Its a gamble that society might fail, but what if it does? If it doesnt, enjoy the shooting for years to come. |
| Well... hopefully you have more than one gun per caliber. If you have 1k rounds of 223 you're in the middle of a fire fight and your gun fail... you have an expensive stick and a shit ton of rocks to throw. I keep at least 1k of each caliber I have and at LEAST 2 guns of each caliber. That being said, I have only 223, 9mm, 308, and 45. (I dont count my 22's as shtf only unless it gets desperate and we need to eat squirrels and small game. 22 is cheap so I have about 5k of that. |
I've been hitting up the local Wal-Marts in my area and I've been buying the .223 200 round Federal bulk packs whenever they're in stock, two at a time. I miscounted how much I had..... My goal was to have a 1000 rounds,,,, I now have 1500 rounds (i shot 100 rnds as a test).... Going to keep buying until I have another 1500, hopefully. I know most people talk sh*t on that stuff but in my experience its good shooting ammo. If SHTF, its better than BB's. $79+tax for 200 rounds IMO isn't toooooo terribly bad. The total with tax for 400 rounds is $172. Which still isn't as bad as the guy trying to sell 1000 rounds of PMC for $500 at the local pawn shop  . I only have 23 rounds for my Springfield XD40.... Need to work on that a bit....
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Taken from: Prep List
Ammunition (courtesy of Jim Rawles) Minimum: 2,000 per battle rifle 500 per hunting rifle 800 per primary handgun 2,000 per .22 rimfire 500 per shotgun Comfort: 6,000 per battle rifle 1500 per hunting rifle 2400 per primary handgun 6,000 per .22 rimfire 1500 per shotgun |
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This is my personal formula for SHTF ammo numbers. I go with 2xbasic loads for each weapon. For example, my personal basic load for my M4 is 11x30rd mags, so 11x30 is 330. Multiply that by two for 660, round up to 700 rds on hand for that weapon at all times. Anything higher than that is practice ammo. Again just my personal formula. OK, but what are you going to do if SHTF and you don't have a tank to carry those 11 30rd mags with? Then what? Isn't that what kids are for?
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Unless you are using ammunition to barter with, just how many rounds do you think you can send down-range purposefully?
Hunting how many animals will you need to kill to survive? In a firefight I am sure you are all badass and everything, but do you honestly think that you will burn through over 500 rounds before someone finally connects with you or the firefight ends? If it hasn't ended in 500 rounds from you, then it's not ending until you are ended. I personally think 1,000 rounds is about max for what is NECESSARY. More is always nice though, but practically, come on. All this said, the 5.56 platform is VERY popular. If you get in all these HALO style battles where you expend billions of rounds, don't you think you will be able to confiscate some from the enemy, given who the enemy is likely to be? |
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My $.02...
I've been buying all I can for a few reasons: 1) Don't know the future with our current or future administrations. I can assure you that if head cases continue to snap & take out people before putting one in their head, the libtards are going to have the votes to grab ammo, guns, or both; 2) I don't think ammo prices are ever going to go down much from where they are now. I want my 4yr. old son to have the opportunity to burn through ammo at TODAY'S prices (no, he has never shot a gun but will be ethically taught firearms safety & mechanics when he's ready); 3) Heaven forbid some kind of SHTF situation hits (I live in a large metro area that is very close to the New Madrid fault) and I'm fortunate enough to survive, I am 100% positive there will be social anarchy within a mile from my house (which will probably spill into my area, too). I might actually NEED a large enough quantity of ammo for me & a few neighbors to "hold down the fort" so to speak... With this in mind, I think 3,000-5,000rds is fine for your primary weapon. If you're not much of a shooter, 2,000 is probably fine. I'd think 2,000 rds would be a good amount for a sidearm to stockpile, if at the bare minumum you need to sell the weapon at a future date you can bundle the sale with ammo. Almost forgot... My best advice is to buy a .22 conversion kit for your AR, buy a good .22 revolver & semi auto (P22, Sig Mosquito, Ruger, etc.) and a Ruger 10/22. Buy all the .22LR you can find & shoot these weapons for 90% of your practice, plinking, etc. This way a stash of 2,000+ rds of stockpiled .223, 9mm, 45acp, 7.62, etc. should last a while... |
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I guess I don't really need any. Apparently there are plenty of 22 year old tactical experts with thousands of rounds that will be able to put down any emergency/invasion. I'll stay put with my head down.
It's just a joke, don't get all upset. I am 23. I do not consider myself a "Tactical Expert" or anything of the sort, even though I have a lot of knowledge on many pertinent topics. However, I would note that if you can send an 18 year old over-seas with an M4 and a prayer, and he lives until he is 22 and comes back, he might have learned a thing or two. Not all of them do, I have had to fix a lot of their weapons at the local range as well as listen to countless stories borne of idiotic fantasy, but some do know a lot! |
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If you think now, that you will eventually not be able to afford ammo for your AR at tommorrows prices, you would buy lots now while you can! AMEN +1 !!! I'm buying NOW so that my kid can have fun shooting when he's old enough to pull the trigger. Imagine what the prices will be in 5-10 yrs and mull over what it will cost you to teach your kid to shoot. The future may be bright but it ain't going to be cheap! Also stocking up on 55gr. FMJ bullets and primers as well so that I can reload what I shoot when the time comes. |
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87 rounds each.  Wouldn't 870 or 8700 be a better response for how much ammo though? NO! 87 rounds is the answer.  +1 It's actually 88 now. Ok, I can work with you guys on this! How about 87 boxes of 20rds? 87 cases of 1000rds? Can someone explain this 87 joke to me? |
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87 rounds each. Wouldn't 870 or 8700 be a better response for how much ammo though? NO! 87 rounds is the answer. +1 It's actually 88 now. Ok, I can work with you guys on this! How about 87 boxes of 20rds? 87 cases of 1000rds? Can someone explain this 87 joke to me? I don't remember who (I think it is in an FAQ somewhere) got sick of people asking how many of XXX should I buy and he responded with "87" and that became the offical answer. XXX was often "how many mags should I buy for my blah gun?" I was just trying to widen the ammo count cause other wise it sounds like 3 30rd mags with 29rds each. And then you had better be a good shot. |
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as unpopular as this is going to be...
play the odds! if you can't afford the ammo.. don't go into debt over it. A family is much more likely to go into foreclosure rather than a SHTF scenario. In the extremely unlikely scenario of a SHTF scenario, food and water is going to be your first priority. If you are really worried, stock .22 ammo after you stock food and water. |
As minimal of an amount as you can. All of the internet commandos here think that there is going to be some blazing gun battle going down at their house with thousands of rounds being traded back and forth. Having upwards of 2000 rounds set aside for SHTF is absolutely stupid and a waste of money. It only takes one bullet to take someone down (could be you). That leaves all of that ammunition wasted and possibly there for someone else to grab. Just have enough that you can grab and go with - there will be plenty elsewhere to pick up, probably at the ammo whores' houses where they died trying to load all of their 27 cases into their trucks.
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I have the following ammo stocked:
1500 rounds of M193 5.56 1 ar-15, 1 mini 14 100 rounds of 30-06 1 ruger M77 500 rounds 45acp 1 sweet springfield lightweight champ operator 500 rounds 9 mil 1 92sb 150 rounds 357 mag 1 gp100 1000 rounds 22 1 sweet little henry 1 gas mask and alot of water If I keep this inventory, it's going to take someone or a group of HIGHLY motivated dudes to take my shit... They better not be wantabees!!! |
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As minimal of an amount as you can. All of the internet commandos here think that there is going to be some blazing gun battle going down at their house with thousands of rounds being traded back and forth. Having upwards of 2000 rounds set aside for SHTF is absolutely stupid and a waste of money. It only takes one bullet to take someone down (could be you). That leaves all of that ammunition wasted and possibly there for someone else to grab. Just have enough that you can grab and go with - there will be plenty elsewhere to pick up, probably at the ammo whores' houses where they died trying to load all of their 27 cases into their trucks. I could get 99.9% of the internet commandos out of their house within 3 minutes with just an empty beer bottle, a little gasoline, a strip of cloth and a lighter. It'll take most of them that long just to get their safe open. 
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I have 1 (one) round stockpiled, to go with my one rifle. I am such a badass that I'm just going to sit back and wait for you guys with all the guns and ammo to come my way searching for the things you did not stockpile;, like food, water, shelder, etc.. If you come to barter fine, If you come to take, then I am going to load my one round in the chamber of my one rifle and cap your ass, and take your weapon and 1 round of ammo and wait until the next one comes along. We badasses don't need all that fancy gear, fancy weapons, and a million rounds of ammo, because we badasses are aliens, and that's "just the way we roll".
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The post above has a point.
If you cannot afford ammo, Obama will/should take ammo from those that stockpiled and re-distribute your ammo (and weapons) to those that don't have any. We need to "spread the wealth" so that everyone has a fair fighting chance to kill each other. You greedy ammo hoarders!! The nerve of you trying to prepare for a SHTF without thinking of all the "little guys" that can't afford to do so. That is why I have one rifle and one round of ammo. If I need more the government will give me part of your collection. |
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