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2/20/2009 12:53:07 PM EDT
5.56  55fmj   $73  200
2/20/2009 2:08:38 PM EDT
[#1]
Yes, Wideners just got some more in stock. Better place an order quick, it won't last long!
2/20/2009 2:12:05 PM EDT
[#2]


Thanks!  I've been waiting for this to come back in stock.  Just got 1000 55gr and 200 75gr.  The wife is going to kill me.  

2/20/2009 2:32:28 PM EDT
[#3]
The ggod news is that you'll have a couple of months until it shows up, so you can eat well until she kills you.  Check out their industry page for updates on shipping, there is a page that lists what day's INVOICES are being packaged.  I ordered on 2/11, and still have not been invoiced.  That means that I am at least 2 weeks away from shipping, having waited over a week already.  NOT complaining - I knew this all up front - it is posted all over their site, and on their pages here.  I have seen some posts saying that they are getting items more quickly than others (especially the Prvi M855).  I ordered .308, though - no mention of that.
2/20/2009 2:38:06 PM EDT
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Yes, Wideners just got some more in stock. Better place an order quick, it won't last long!


Thank you my friend, I was waiting for that to come back in stock.  I just ordered a case.  Thanks for the in stock alert!
2/20/2009 2:50:31 PM EDT
[#5]
You will have a pretty long wait, but you can be assured you'll get it.  Great people and excellent customer service.

Glad to know that they've got it back in!

Dyn
2/20/2009 4:45:10 PM EDT
[#6]
Yep good stuff,  It took about 20 days for them to ship my cases but I did get them.
2/20/2009 5:11:07 PM EDT
[#7]
They can keep it. I was a very loyal customer until they jacked their shipping rates up. Now its cheaper to buy it locally.
2/20/2009 5:15:43 PM EDT
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They can keep it. I was a very loyal customer until they jacked their shipping rates up. Now its cheaper to buy it locally.


Not sure what your talking about?  I just checked and its $18 for me to order a case of 5.56.  That is UPS ground.  I paid the same about 2 months ago to ship 1200 rounds.  I dont see $18 as to bad for a case of ammo UPS.
2/20/2009 5:42:21 PM EDT
[#9]
Sorry about the long wait fellas, we are doing our best to get your stuff out to you.

Chris
2/20/2009 5:43:52 PM EDT
[#10]
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Sorry about the long wait fellas, we are doing our best to get your stuff out to you.

Chris


At this stage in the game, I am just happy that I was able to get the ammo.  Everyone is slow to ship right now.
2/20/2009 5:58:46 PM EDT
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They can keep it. I was a very loyal customer until they jacked their shipping rates up. Now its cheaper to buy it locally.


Not sure what your talking about?  I just checked and its $18 for me to order a case of 5.56.  That is UPS ground.  I paid the same about 2 months ago to ship 1200 rounds.  I dont see $18 as to bad for a case of ammo UPS.


Once you start moving further away from them, states wise, their shipping calculator quotes really expensive rates.
UPS Ground 1K m193 PRVI: $32.60
UPS Ground 1K 7.62x39 Wolf: ~$39
These next 2 are the 7.62 they have in stock and here are the quotes:
UPS Ground 1K 7.62x39 PRVI: $41.67
UPS Ground 1K 7.62x39 Tracers: $47.67

It kinda kills any "deals" they might have.
2/20/2009 6:00:58 PM EDT
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Sorry about the long wait fellas, we are doing our best to get your stuff out to you.

Chris


Chris

Thank you for the great ammo and keeping the prices down! Just scored another 1000 rounds..

2/20/2009 6:01:16 PM EDT
[#13]
It's a long drive from Tennessee to California.  

I patronized Widener's back in the 90's and early 2000's and after a 4 year hiatus have commenced to ordering ammo and supplies again over the course of the last several months.  Thank you to those in Johnson City for their continued good service and pricing.  
2/20/2009 6:11:22 PM EDT
[#14]
Just picked up 2,000 and it looks like its flying out the door, even on a Friday night.  You guys have become my #1 ammo source.  Thanks for the great service.
2/20/2009 8:24:43 PM EDT
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Sorry about the long wait fellas, we are doing our best to get your stuff out to you.

Chris


What I appreciate is that you are more than clear UPFRONT about the wait.  Thanks for this.





2/21/2009 1:47:42 PM EDT
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They can keep it. I was a very loyal customer until they jacked their shipping rates up. Now its cheaper to buy it locally.
Hey noob. Wideners didn't jack up their shipping rates. UPS did. Move a few states closer.

2/21/2009 1:52:15 PM EDT
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They can keep it. I was a very loyal customer until they jacked their shipping rates up. Now its cheaper to buy it locally.
Hey noob. Wideners didn't jack up their shipping rates. UPS did. Move a few states closer.



Wow....very mature...what are you 12?

So now that we've established that, how can a company like PSA which is further away from me than Wideners charge $18 for a case of 1k when Wideners charges me $32? Same UPS service.....can your 2nd grade education tell me that?
2/21/2009 2:16:50 PM EDT
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They can keep it. I was a very loyal customer until they jacked their shipping rates up. Now its cheaper to buy it locally.
Hey noob. Wideners didn't jack up their shipping rates. UPS did. Move a few states closer.



Wow....very mature...what are you 12?

So now that we've established that, how can a company like PSA which is further away from me than Wideners charge $18 for a case of 1k when Wideners charges me $32? Same UPS service.....can your 2nd grade education tell me that?
LOL. Lighten up Frances. I was just stating a fact. UPS raises their rates every January 1st. Alot of us have been ordering from Wideners for many years and are very happy with them.
Oh,  I did make it to 9th grade before dropping out.

2/21/2009 2:17:51 PM EDT
[#19]




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Sorry about the long wait fellas, we are doing our best to get your stuff out to you.



Chris




Hi Chris



No need to apologize, You are honest and upfront on your homepage.



I ordered a 1000 rounds of PriviM855 last week and I was just glad you had it in stock at a reasonable price.



Keep up the good work!



2/21/2009 3:21:56 PM EDT
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They can keep it. I was a very loyal customer until they jacked their shipping rates up. Now its cheaper to buy it locally.
Hey noob. Wideners didn't jack up their shipping rates. UPS did. Move a few states closer.



Wow....very mature...what are you 12?

So now that we've established that, how can a company like PSA which is further away from me than Wideners charge $18 for a case of 1k when Wideners charges me $32? Same UPS service.....can your 2nd grade education tell me that?
LOL. Lighten up Frances. I was just stating a fact. UPS raises their rates every January 1st. Alot of us have been ordering from Wideners for many years and are very happy with them.
Oh,  I did make it to 9th grade before dropping out.



But since PSA's rate never went up, were they immune from this mysterious rate increase?
2/21/2009 3:29:17 PM EDT
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They can keep it. I was a very loyal customer until they jacked their shipping rates up. Now its cheaper to buy it locally.
Hey noob. Wideners didn't jack up their shipping rates. UPS did. Move a few states closer.



Wow....very mature...what are you 12?

So now that we've established that, how can a company like PSA which is further away from me than Wideners charge $18 for a case of 1k when Wideners charges me $32? Same UPS service.....can your 2nd grade education tell me that?
LOL. Lighten up Frances. I was just stating a fact. UPS raises their rates every January 1st. Alot of us have been ordering from Wideners for many years and are very happy with them.
Oh,  I did make it to 9th grade before dropping out.



But since PSA's rate never went up, were they immune from this mysterious rate increase?
Wideners charges flat UPS rates, nothing more.  Whatever PSA charges, it's their issue, not Wideners'.  Taking it personally is not a terribly "mature" way to deal with this.

If you post a link to or at least post the full name of PSA, (I've never heard of them) maybe someone will be able to point out the difference between how they ship and standard UPS ground.

2/21/2009 3:40:45 PM EDT
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They can keep it. I was a very loyal customer until they jacked their shipping rates up. Now its cheaper to buy it locally.
Hey noob. Wideners didn't jack up their shipping rates. UPS did. Move a few states closer.



Wow....very mature...what are you 12?

So now that we've established that, how can a company like PSA which is further away from me than Wideners charge $18 for a case of 1k when Wideners charges me $32? Same UPS service.....can your 2nd grade education tell me that?
LOL. Lighten up Frances. I was just stating a fact. UPS raises their rates every January 1st. Alot of us have been ordering from Wideners for many years and are very happy with them.
Oh,  I did make it to 9th grade before dropping out.



But since PSA's rate never went up, were they immune from this mysterious rate increase?
Wideners charges flat UPS rates, nothing more.  Whatever PSA charges, it's their issue, not Wideners'.  Taking it personally is not a terribly "mature" way to deal with this.

If you post a link to or at least post the full name of PSA, (I've never heard of them) maybe someone will be able to point out the difference between how they ship and standard UPS ground.



PSA = Palmetto State Armory

Just curious what you mean by "flat rate." I thought a "flat rate" meant 1 price, no matter what. Kinda like flat rate USPS priority mail boxes. Same price no matter the weight, no matter what location.
Palmetto seems like it's closer to flat rate than Wideners.
Palmetto charges 1 shipping price per case, no matter what location. Wideners charges based on weight and location.
I don't mean to jump into a fight that isn't mine. Just curious as to what you mean?
And in fairness, I think Palmetto DID increase their flat rate shipping prices from $12 per case to $18 per case. Which is still VERY REASONABLE.
2/21/2009 4:01:13 PM EDT
[#23]
dammit I'm pretty sure they sold out while I was trying to make an account.
2/21/2009 4:23:01 PM EDT
[#24]
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Sorry about the long wait fellas, we are doing our best to get your stuff out to you.

Chris


+1. you have always come through on orders I've placed. Most of us understand the issues since November.
2/21/2009 5:13:55 PM EDT
[#25]
The only negative I can see about Wideners is their shipping prices. I ordered quite a bit of stuff last year and was charged almost $300 in shipping.  3 of the heaviest packages were supposed to be free shipping and I think I got charged for them (bullets in flat rate boxes). When I asked them they said it was done right, but I calculated it on UPS myself when the packages got here using their actual weight and it was under $200. I called them back and they wouldn't do anything about it. Them making an extra $100+ must have been more important than repeat business.
2/21/2009 5:40:30 PM EDT
[#26]
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Sorry about the long wait fellas, we are doing our best to get your stuff out to you.

Chris


Thanks, Chris.   My first orders with you were handled well and sold at a fair price.

As my budget permits, I'll be ordering from you again.

Keep up the good work.
2/21/2009 5:42:32 PM EDT
[#27]
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dammit I'm pretty sure they sold out while I was trying to make an account.


Damn, I wanted another 1000 but they are out, atleast I was able to purchase 1200 last night.

2/21/2009 6:27:38 PM EDT
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They can keep it. I was a very loyal customer until they jacked their shipping rates up. Now its cheaper to buy it locally.
Hey noob. Wideners didn't jack up their shipping rates. UPS did. Move a few states closer.



Wow....very mature...what are you 12?

So now that we've established that, how can a company like PSA which is further away from me than Wideners charge $18 for a case of 1k when Wideners charges me $32? Same UPS service.....can your 2nd grade education tell me that?
LOL. Lighten up Frances. I was just stating a fact. UPS raises their rates every January 1st. Alot of us have been ordering from Wideners for many years and are very happy with them.
Oh,  I did make it to 9th grade before dropping out.



But since PSA's rate never went up, were they immune from this mysterious rate increase?
Wideners charges flat UPS rates, nothing more.  Whatever PSA charges, it's their issue, not Wideners'.  Taking it personally is not a terribly "mature" way to deal with this.

If you post a link to or at least post the full name of PSA, (I've never heard of them) maybe someone will be able to point out the difference between how they ship and standard UPS ground.



PSA = Palmetto State Armory

Just curious what you mean by "flat rate." I thought a "flat rate" meant 1 price, no matter what. Kinda like flat rate USPS priority mail boxes. Same price no matter the weight, no matter what location.
Palmetto seems like it's closer to flat rate than Wideners.
Palmetto charges 1 shipping price per case, no matter what location. Wideners charges based on weight and location.
I don't mean to jump into a fight that isn't mine. Just curious as to what you mean?
And in fairness, I think Palmetto DID increase their flat rate shipping prices from $12 per case to $18 per case. Which is still VERY REASONABLE.
I've never thought of Palmetto State Armory as "PSA," so that just didn't click for me...

And I did not mean "flat rate" but rather "unaltered UPS rate", though I can see how my words didn't make that clear.  Palmetto's charging a flat rate is a business decision, and since that means that for some customers they come out making less money, it strongly implies that they up their prices to cover that eventuality.  That they upped their shipping prices implies that they couldn't justify raising their product prices enough to cover increased shipping costs.

This is a BUSINESS decision, and it's not like every company that sells ammunition is anywhere near the same kind of business, let alone with the same model or corporate policies...And comparing Widener's to Palmetto is literally apples and oranges, since the two companies are very different.  Their shipping charges can't be compared any more than you can compare the cost to have a car shipped to having a carburetor shipped-the companies that sell cars and carburetors are way too different.

2/21/2009 8:14:39 PM EDT
[#29]
got 3k this morning and 60 mags- was about 75- 200pks left after that–––– now all gone––- stuff goes fast!!!
2/21/2009 8:32:58 PM EDT
[#30]
Jesus you fing ammo whores.  Guys the price will never drop if you don't stop this $hit!!
2/22/2009 4:42:13 AM EDT
[#31]
Unfortunately I don't see it getting any better.  I only wish I could keep up the pace with the whores.  I did order 200 rounds of Wolf 75gr and 420 rounds of Priv .308 back on the 8th and I got a shipping notice for it on Friday.  Too much to buy and too little money, damn I wish I was rich!
2/22/2009 11:13:36 AM EDT
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Jesus you fing ammo whores.  Guys the price will never drop if you don't stop this $hit!!


+1

for the price of ammo I could be buying guns!


2/22/2009 1:48:12 PM EDT
[#33]
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Jesus you fing ammo whores.  Guys the price will never drop if you don't stop this $hit!!


+1

for the price of ammo I could be buying guns!




Yes +2. Stop hoarding it all so I can go shoot some. Especially the PRVI stuff. It has to be the best deal out there.
2/22/2009 3:53:50 PM EDT
[#34]
"for the price of ammo, I could be buying guns?"

A gun without ammo is a light, non ergonomic club.
2/22/2009 4:22:42 PM EDT
[#35]
I missed it last week, but just got 1k Prvi M855

Palmetto is about $15 cheaper but I don't feel like waiting
2/22/2009 5:09:47 PM EDT
[#36]
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I missed it last week, but just got 1k Prvi M855

Palmetto is about $15 cheaper but I don't feel like waiting


lol you'll wait anyways with Wideners.....almost seems like a small mom and pop shop with the 2-4 week turn arounds.
2/22/2009 5:12:31 PM EDT
[#37]
Wideners is an excellent source for Prvi, and whoever their source is happens to be on point as well!
2/22/2009 5:25:03 PM EDT
[#38]
Hmmm...I did not realize that Widner's is close to my house.  Of course TN sales tax+gas to get there would kill any savings in shipping.
2/22/2009 5:29:30 PM EDT
[#39]
I've got 1400 rds M193 on order....can't wait to see a shipping notice.
2/22/2009 5:41:00 PM EDT
[#40]
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Jesus you fing ammo whores.  Guys the price will never drop if you don't stop this $hit!!


They'll run out of money at some point.  Hang tight.  Bubbles burst and people get stuck holding the proverbial bag.  Kinda like those guys that paid $400,000 for $200,000 houses a couple years ago.  Ouch!

I'm still buying ammo these days, but mostly for shooting.  I'm not about to build a stockpile during one of the highest periods of demand in recent history.  

EDIT:  The Privi at Wideners is a damn good deal at the moment though.  I wouldn't blame anyone for taking advantage of it.
2/22/2009 6:08:00 PM EDT
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Jesus you fing ammo whores.  Guys the price will never drop if you don't stop this $hit!!


They'll run out of money at some point.  Hang tight.  Bubbles burst and people get stuck holding the proverbial bag.  Kinda like those guys that paid $400,000 for $200,000 houses a couple years ago.  Ouch!

I'm still buying ammo these days, but mostly for shooting.  I'm not about to build a stockpile during one of the highest periods of demand in recent history.  

EDIT:  The Privi at Wideners is a damn good deal at the moment though.  I wouldn't blame anyone for taking advantage of it.


I think alot of people, like myself, who got into the whole AR scene relatively late are now just trying to get their reserve stash......THEN they'll be buying ammo to actually shoot and replacing it as needed, without ever touching the reserve good stuff.
2/22/2009 7:03:57 PM EDT
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Jesus you fing ammo whores.  Guys the price will never drop if you don't stop this $hit!!


They'll run out of money at some point.  Hang tight.  Bubbles burst and people get stuck holding the proverbial bag.  Kinda like those guys that paid $400,000 for $200,000 houses a couple years ago.  Ouch!

I'm still buying ammo these days, but mostly for shooting.  I'm not about to build a stockpile during one of the highest periods of demand in recent history.  

EDIT:  The Privi at Wideners is a damn good deal at the moment though.  I wouldn't blame anyone for taking advantage of it.


I think alot of people, like myself, who got into the whole AR scene relatively late are now just trying to get their reserve stash......THEN they'll be buying ammo to actually shoot and replacing it as needed, without ever touching the reserve good stuff.


Yeah, that's understandable.  Don't think for a second that I didn't pay a premium to have some reserve on hand myself in the past few months.  I'm just saying that people should give pause before going above and beyond that for the moment.  I think there will be an opportunity to do that at a cheaper price in a year.  

I was in late as well so I know exactly what you are saying.  When I say stockpile, I'm talking about stacking it to the ceiling in your basement.  On smaller quantities like what you are talking about I don't think saving a few hundred bucks by waiting a year is going to make or break anyone.  I've seen some people though spending thousands and thousands to fill their basement in pure panic mode.



2/23/2009 6:17:54 PM EDT
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Jesus you fing ammo whores.  Guys the price will never drop if you don't stop this $hit!!


They'll run out of money at some point.  Hang tight.  Bubbles burst and people get stuck holding the proverbial bag.  Kinda like those guys that paid $400,000 for $200,000 houses a couple years ago.  Ouch!

I'm still buying ammo these days, but mostly for shooting.  I'm not about to build a stockpile during one of the highest periods of demand in recent history.  

EDIT:  The Privi at Wideners is a damn good deal at the moment though.  I wouldn't blame anyone for taking advantage of it.


I think alot of people, like myself, who got into the whole AR scene relatively late are now just trying to get their reserve stash......THEN they'll be buying ammo to actually shoot and replacing it as needed, without ever touching the reserve good stuff.


Yeah, that's understandable.  Don't think for a second that I didn't pay a premium to have some reserve on hand myself in the past few months.  I'm just saying that people should give pause before going above and beyond that for the moment.  I think there will be an opportunity to do that at a cheaper price in a year.  

I was in late as well so I know exactly what you are saying.  When I say stockpile, I'm talking about stacking it to the ceiling in your basement.  On smaller quantities like what you are talking about I don't think saving a few hundred bucks by waiting a year is going to make or break anyone.  I've seen some people though spending thousands and thousands to fill their basement in pure panic mode.





I hear ya on the stockpiling....strangely, being a relative noob made me go out and buy a couple of cases of good blasting ammo before I actually had a small reserve of the good stuff established.  Had I had to do over,  I'd have bought a couple of cases of the good stuff and then shopped around for the blasting ammo afterward.  Fortunately, I was able to get in on about 1400 rds of their last batch of Privi to go with the case of Lake City I bough last year.   That's all the reserve I'll ever keep since its hard to bug out with any more than that.  All the folks stacking to the ceilings of their basement are gonna be forced to leave it all behind if and when those times come...OR, they could just be looking to turn it all for a profit in the future after .gov bans ammo sales!
2/23/2009 7:29:12 PM EDT
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Jesus you fing ammo whores.  Guys the price will never drop if you don't stop this $hit!!


They'll run out of money at some point.  Hang tight.  Bubbles burst and people get stuck holding the proverbial bag.  Kinda like those guys that paid $400,000 for $200,000 houses a couple years ago.  Ouch!

I'm still buying ammo these days, but mostly for shooting.  I'm not about to build a stockpile during one of the highest periods of demand in recent history.  

EDIT:  The Privi at Wideners is a damn good deal at the moment though.  I wouldn't blame anyone for taking advantage of it.


I think alot of people, like myself, who got into the whole AR scene relatively late are now just trying to get their reserve stash......THEN they'll be buying ammo to actually shoot and replacing it as needed, without ever touching the reserve good stuff.


Yeah, that's understandable.  Don't think for a second that I didn't pay a premium to have some reserve on hand myself in the past few months.  I'm just saying that people should give pause before going above and beyond that for the moment.  I think there will be an opportunity to do that at a cheaper price in a year.  

I was in late as well so I know exactly what you are saying.  When I say stockpile, I'm talking about stacking it to the ceiling in your basement.  On smaller quantities like what you are talking about I don't think saving a few hundred bucks by waiting a year is going to make or break anyone.  I've seen some people though spending thousands and thousands to fill their basement in pure panic mode.





I hear ya on the stockpiling....strangely, being a relative noob made me go out and buy a couple of cases of good blasting ammo before I actually had a small reserve of the good stuff established.  Had I had to do over,  I'd have bought a couple of cases of the good stuff and then shopped around for the blasting ammo afterward.  Fortunately, I was able to get in on about 1400 rds of their last batch of Privi to go with the case of Lake City I bough last year.   That's all the reserve I'll ever keep since its hard to bug out with any more than that. All the folks stacking to the ceilings of their basement are gonna be forced to leave it all behind if and when those times come...OR, they could just be looking to turn it all for a profit in the future after .gov bans ammo sales!


I think a lot of folks aren’t so much stocking up for when the SHTF as much as they are in anticipation of prices going up and/or bans being implemented.  And I'd like to think its for personal use.  It kind of sucks that there are guys sitting on hundreds of thousands of rounds who are still buying in bulk with the sole purpose of turning a profit when there are other guys just starting out in the game that are struggling to find just a few thousand rounds.
2/24/2009 4:54:51 PM EDT
[#45]
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Jesus you fing ammo whores.  Guys the price will never drop if you don't stop this $hit!!


They'll run out of money at some point.  Hang tight.  Bubbles burst and people get stuck holding the proverbial bag.  Kinda like those guys that paid $400,000 for $200,000 houses a couple years ago.  Ouch!

I'm still buying ammo these days, but mostly for shooting.  I'm not about to build a stockpile during one of the highest periods of demand in recent history.  

EDIT:  The Privi at Wideners is a damn good deal at the moment though.  I wouldn't blame anyone for taking advantage of it.





Yeah, that's understandable.  Don't think for a second that I didn't pay a premium to have some reserve on hand myself in the past few months.  I'm just saying that people should give pause before going above and beyond that for the moment.  I think there will be an opportunity to do that at a cheaper price in a year.  

I was in late as well so I know exactly what you are saying.  When I say stockpile, I'm talking about stacking it to the ceiling in your basement.  On smaller quantities like what you are talking about I don't think saving a few hundred bucks by waiting a year is going to make or break anyone.  I've seen some people though spending thousands and thousands to fill their basement in pure panic mode.





I hear ya on the stockpiling....strangely, being a relative noob made me go out and buy a couple of cases of good blasting ammo before I actually had a small reserve of the good stuff established.  Had I had to do over,  I'd have bought a couple of cases of the good stuff and then shopped around for the blasting ammo afterward.  Fortunately, I was able to get in on about 1400 rds of their last batch of Privi to go with the case of Lake City I bough last year.   That's all the reserve I'll ever keep since its hard to bug out with any more than that. All the folks stacking to the ceilings of their basement are gonna be forced to leave it all behind if and when those times come...OR, they could just be looking to turn it all for a profit in the future after .gov bans ammo sales!


I think a lot of folks aren’t so much stocking up for when the SHTF as much as they are in anticipation of prices going up and/or bans being implemented.  And I'd like to think its for personal use.  It kind of sucks that there are guys sitting on hundreds of thousands of rounds who are still buying in bulk with the sole purpose of turning a profit when there are other guys just starting out in the game that are struggling to find just a few thousand rounds.



Yeah, it does suck...fortunately I was able to get in on some slightly cheaper ammo stocks about a year ago i/o to build a modest reserve.  If I were an every weekend shooter, I'd definitely be stacking the stuff to the ceiling as well for personal use.  I see ammo prices NEVER coming down.  Right now I shoot about 6-8 times a year so I've just been replacing it as I shoot it and leaving the good stuff stashed in cans.  Big Brown just showed up with the first 200 rds of my 1400 rd M193 order today....thanks Wideners!
2/24/2009 6:28:00 PM EDT
[#46]
It's the internet's fault.  

Really.
3/1/2009 6:06:08 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
It's the internet's fault.  

Really.


Quoted for enormously great truth.  If we didn't all share rumors, innuendo, blatant lies and hints, and if we didn't as much as possible pounce on "deals" and buy more than we can really afford, then prices wouldn't be doing this.  The lies and rumors drive the urge to pounce "because it's all going away!!!``1111~~!!", and we wind up manipulating the variables in the law of supply and demand OURSELVES.  All because the Internet lets us do this to ourselves.

(Done with the soapbox now...)
3/1/2009 7:54:45 AM EDT
[#48]
Please post deals at: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=429197. This thread has turned into a price bitching thread otherwise
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