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Posted: 8/2/2008 11:35:09 PM EDT
| Anybody try that stuff ? It's priced at about 40.00 per 100 rounds at Chinamart . I know that's not fantastic , but it's about as good a price as I've found locally lately . Anyone know if it's any good ? |
| I just bought 500 rnds for testing. It is mixed LC and FC headstamp. Initial inspection shows it to be very consistant in OAL and looks good. (no damaged cases etc...) I'm wondering if this is AE ? If it shoots well I'll be going back for the rest of what they have in stock. Even at $39.00 per hundred and tax, it compares well with what you can buy online with shipping. I got some looks from the Wally World guy when I asked for 500 rnds of 223 and 1000 rnd WWB 9mm LOL |
I guess that must be a regional thing because our Chinamart does not carry it out here! |
makes me miss the $40 200 round packs that i bought last year there
Heck bro, any brass US ammo thats under $450.00 per k is at least decent in the area of price nowadays. I have yet to shoot any of the valuepacked stuff as my area stores never seem to have it or carry it. Sad as it is, you can buy that or Rem. UMC for about the same $$$. If you are able, shoot some for groups and post the pics with details ( weapon used, distance, etc...) I have been somewhat surpised with the Rem., so I'm guessing the Fed. is about the same as for accuracy.
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realy. Where did you get this info? Im curios. I have shot lc brass up to 7 or 8 times without necks splitting and I loaded them fairly hot. Sometimes A batch of brass may have a variety of headstamps including fc and I have never had a problem loading them up to 7 or 8 times. |
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From personal experience. FC, which is Federal Cartridge brass (comes in red American Eagle boxes, etc.) is not. I have tried to reload once fired factory LC brass. The primers feel weird when I'm seating them. Some take a lot of pressure to seat properly, too much in my opinion. Others fall in with very little resistance, another bad sign. One primer I seated fell halfway out of the case head--I threw that one away. FC I reload once, then I decap it and throw it in the dead brass can for eventual recycling. I do not think it's safe to reload more than once. LC brass, Remington, Winchester, and most others are properly heat treated. I load them five times and then retire them. All this applies to .223. I have reloaded FC 9mm and .45 pistol brass many times without problems. |
I think the issue you are talking about with the lc is that it is not decripmed consistantly. I also didnt catch why you think fc is not safe to reload more than once. Could you tell me where to find info on this because i will stop using it. |
My experience with FC 223 marked brass is that its super loose in the primer pocket. I won't even bother to reload it, I toss any FC 223 brass into the scrap bucket. Their pistol brass is great though, so go figure. |
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LC brass can be reloaded 5 times FC brass can be reoaded only once. Absolutely WRONG. (i'm not doubting your experience, but we're talking about the current valuepack ammo here) There's a guy here who's loaded the current FC brass over 8 times in a single range session. It's some of the best brass you can get. Second only to Speer in my opinion. |
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realy. Where did you get this info? Im curios. I have shot lc brass up to 7 or 8 times without necks splitting and I loaded them fairly hot. Sometimes A batch of brass may have a variety of headstamps including fc and I have never had a problem loading them up to 7 or 8 times. He must have some of the old FC brass. I've loaded that stuff too, and it's night and day compared to the current production stuff. It is painfully obvious when you prime a bad piece of FC brass. It seats effortlessly. I'll back the primer out if it's too loose and toss the piece into the recycler. I haven't had any of this brass in over 5 years though. |
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LC brass can be reloaded 5 times FC brass can be reoaded only once. Absolutely WRONG. (i'm not doubting your experience, but we're talking about the current valuepack ammo here) There's a guy here who's loaded the current FC brass over 8 times in a single range session. It's some of the best brass you can get. Second only to Speer in my opinion. I had some value packs purchased in 2008 with FC headstamps that I reloaded once. After that, the primer pockets were too loose for my tastes. YMMV. |
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I had some value packs purchased in 2008 with FC headstamps that I reloaded once. After that, the primer pockets were too loose for my tastes. YMMV. Interesting. Were there crimps on the primers? Was it indeed 08 production ammo? I'd like to hear more. Primers were crimped and there was green sealant on them. I tried reaming and swaging, neither seemed to make a difference in primer tension. I have no way of guaranteeing it was 08 production ammo, only that I purchased it in 2008 (on various occasions throughout the year). The boxes weren't dusty so it wasn't sitting on the shelf very long. Odd thing is that primer tension was very inconsistent. Some felt normal, others felt extremely loose. None fell out, even after tapping the rim against the table. |
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I think I have some of that ammo in my gun cabinet. It's in the bulk pack and then in 5 individual white 20 round boxes marked not for individual resale.
I've loaded some of this and found the pockets to be about average. I can get about 3 loads out of it, no sweat. But the more recent production FC brass is superior to the green sealant stuff by far. |
| Well... walked into a new Walmart close to work (RTP, NC) and there they were... Federal value packs 223 for $39.99 ... got 3 of them but was wondering if I you get additional ones (there were some left). Now, we can get wolf 223 for $4-$5 a box of 20.... are these Federal 223s better than the cheap wolfs? |
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