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7/8/2008 6:26:24 PM EDT
I bought some tracers recently - LC 70 and LC 71 headstamps with the red tip.  "Factory loads - not reloads".  Went to the range late on Saturday and didn't see a single tracer in the day.  Waited until dark and put 30 rounds down range.  I saw 1 tracer for sure, and possibly 2 others - very faint if anything.  The one that did work was not bright like any other tracers I have shot.

Do tracers have a shelf life?  


quote from the EE add...

"I have 1500rds of loose packed factory Lake City M196 Tracer 54gr headstamp LC 70. Clean and shiny. These rounds have been stored in ammo cans in a cool dry location. NOT RELOADS"
7/8/2008 7:14:25 PM EDT
[#1]
Yes from everything that I have heard tracers do lose their effectiveness over the years.

What type barrel are you using? You will have better luck with them lighting off with a 20 inch compared to a 14.5 inch.
7/9/2008 7:54:35 AM EDT
[#2]
Yes they have shelf life, I have used the 55gr tracers in daytime att 100yds it was useless they almost did not have time to light up before hitting the sand.

At the 300 yard range it was possible to see them quite good and then all worked but they was not as bright like new tracers.
7/9/2008 8:23:29 AM EDT
[#3]
in addition, you may have had night vision compatible tracers.
7/9/2008 9:20:21 AM EDT
[#4]
What range were you shooting at?..Some tracers dont light till bout 100yds or so....
7/9/2008 10:33:01 AM EDT
[#5]
It takes most tracers 100 yards to light.  The red ones are known to take longer as they are older.  M856 will usually light around 75 yards, M196 will usually light around 100-150 yards.  Some tracers don't light at all.  If you can shoot them at longer distances you'll see better results, just be ready to run to put out the fires.
7/9/2008 11:05:37 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
What range were you shooting at?..Some tracers dont light till bout 100yds or so....


I was shooting at a private range.  Will they work better at a public range?    j/k

I shot a few at the 25 yard backstop and that is where I saw the one light up.  The rest were fired at the 200 yard range and saw nothing like I am used to with tracers.

16" barrel.

Serious question... Any ideas on the value of these since they are not working as I thought they would? Shoots well, just can't predict which ones are going to trace.
7/9/2008 11:06:37 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

What type barrel are you using?  


16" stainless barrel - no fh.  RR predator rifle
7/9/2008 11:10:30 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Serious question... Any ideas on the value of these since they are not working as I thought they would? Shoots well, just can't predict which ones are going to trace.


Probably whatever the going rate is of M193,  just unknown when they will light or not.
7/9/2008 3:43:52 PM EDT
[#9]
do you have something with a 20" barrel you could try?
7/9/2008 4:56:01 PM EDT
[#10]
I don't, but a friend just bought a new rifle and it has a 20" barrel.  (and he has been begging me to invite him to go shooting)  may take a coulple weeks - but I can try them in a 20".
7/9/2008 5:04:14 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
I don't, but a friend just bought a new rifle and it has a 20" barrel.  (and he has been begging me to invite him to go shooting)  may take a coulple weeks - but I can try them in a 20".


Give it a shot (ha!). Tracers need two things to light off reliably: pressure and heat. For both of them, they're loaded with hotter powders. That said, if they get out the muzzle before the disk is ruptured (pressure) and the tracer compound is lit (heat), they're a dud as far as you know.
7/9/2008 6:19:29 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
in addition, you may have had night vision compatible tracers.


I doubt it if they were made in the 70's.
7/10/2008 3:35:52 AM EDT
[#13]
Ive shot Very OLD 30 06 Tracers

They were Very Very Bright RED!

7/10/2008 3:40:24 PM EDT
[#14]
Same goes for me, I have been shooting M196 tracers that I have been reloading
myself, and they are nice and bright out of 20inch Bbl AR

PS: I have had great results with 24 grains of Data 68 and AA2230 powders
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