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3/14/2008 8:39:57 AM EDT
Is this ammo sold to the public and if so where can it be purchased?
3/14/2008 8:50:27 AM EDT
[#1]
It is not sold to the public, as it's considered "armor piercing handgun ammunition" by the BATFE.
3/14/2008 10:07:43 AM EDT
[#2]
No, you will only see it in pix.
3/14/2008 1:14:10 PM EDT
[#3]
that sucks. Thanks guys.
3/14/2008 1:44:32 PM EDT
[#4]

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that sucks. Thanks guys.


Why, what would you use it for? It's terminal ballistics suck arse unless you are shooting a steel target.
3/14/2008 2:17:38 PM EDT
[#5]
I got a couple rounds. Good stuff. Hitting targts out to 1800 meters with it
3/14/2008 2:20:13 PM EDT
[#6]

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I got a couple rounds. Good stuff. Hitting targts out to 1800 meters with it



O RLY?


3/14/2008 7:42:04 PM EDT
[#7]
.Mil only, only in linked belts for M249, and extreemly rare even in theater.  It is very expensive to make.  
3/14/2008 10:56:16 PM EDT
[#8]

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.Mil only, only in linked belts for M249, and extreemly rare even in theater.  It is very expensive to make.  


Why so expensive compared to .30 AP?
3/15/2008 3:58:32 AM EDT
[#9]

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I got a couple rounds. Good stuff. Hitting targts out to 1800 meters with it



O RLY?




Yeah, I believe him! I hit Squaw-Humper Mesa in South Dakota one time from 1800 meters with 5.56 ammo.
3/15/2008 6:47:31 AM EDT
[#10]
good shooting I shot a quart beer bottle with my pump action daisy at 450 yards. It was a hard shot but the wind was with me. lol
3/15/2008 7:21:46 AM EDT
[#11]

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.Mil only, only in linked belts for M249, and extreemly rare even in theater.  It is very expensive to make.  


Why so expensive compared to .30 AP?

The .30AP was WWII vintage, made for air combat use, but was rarely used in that role as most fighter aircraft were changed to .50 caliber MGs.  Comparatively it was just as expensive I'm sure.  There just isn't an impetus to get the M995 into the field.
3/15/2008 4:11:31 PM EDT
[#12]
The old .30AP had a steel core, The new M995 have a tungsten core so material and production cost is also higher...

This ammunition is VERY rare..... Most people in combat have not even seen it...
3/15/2008 4:23:30 PM EDT
[#13]

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.Mil only, only in linked belts for M249, and extreemly rare even in theater.  It is very expensive to make.  


Why so expensive compared to .30 AP?

The .30AP was WWII vintage, made for air combat use, but was rarely used in that role as most fighter aircraft were changed to .50 caliber MGs.  Comparatively it was just as expensive I'm sure.  There just isn't an impetus to get the M995 into the field.


.30AP was very common in WWII and in Korea.
It was well liked, both because of its penetration and it's accuracy.
The reason that .30AP is more accurate than M2 Ball is because the AP projectile has a longer bearing surface.
3/15/2008 6:17:24 PM EDT
[#14]
The last time I checked, the M-995 was not even made here in the US. IIRC, it is made in Sweden/Norway by NAAMO. I read a DOD fiscal report that indicated that the per-round cost was nearly $1.00 each, and many millions of rounds were purchased.

As for the M-2 AP round, the original specs were for a tungsten-steel alloy core, but this was changed in early WWII to a hardened, all steel core that gave the same performance. About mid-WWII, European ground forces were requesting that ALL further .30-06 production be AP for it's superior all-around performance on the battlefield. So much AP was made and left over after the war that it was common issue on the rifle ranges for qualifications and according to many reports, it was more accurate than regular M-2 ball ammo.

D.D.
3/15/2008 7:39:27 PM EDT
[#15]

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good shooting I shot a quart beer bottle with my pump action daisy at 450 yards. It was a hard shot but the wind was with me. lol


Was this in Laos?
3/15/2008 8:59:43 PM EDT
[#16]

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The last time I checked, the M-995 was not even made here in the US. IIRC, it is made in Sweden/Norway by NAAMO. I read a DOD fiscal report that indicated that the per-round cost was nearly $1.00 each, and many millions of rounds were purchased.

As for the M-2 AP round, the original specs were for a tungsten-steel alloy core, but this was changed in early WWII to a hardened, all steel core that gave the same performance. About mid-WWII, European ground forces were requesting that ALL further .30-06 production be AP for it's superior all-around performance on the battlefield. So much AP was made and left over after the war that it was common issue on the rifle ranges for qualifications and according to many reports, it was more accurate than regular M-2 ball ammo.

D.D.


In 2005, M855 was $0.38 per round. Just as a comparison. This is based on a TM I read.
3/15/2008 9:16:52 PM EDT
[#17]
I still want some. I have no idea why I want or need M995 but it would cool to see it penetrate a big piece of steel. I've looked in to it a little, and they are right, nearly impossible for a civilian to get. I'm almost positive I've seen larger caliber armor piercing rounds available but I don't quite recall where or why, or if I could get my grubby little hands on them. Tungsten carbide sure seems a lot safer that depleted uranium though.
3/15/2008 10:56:00 PM EDT
[#18]

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good shooting I shot a quart beer bottle with my pump action daisy at 450 yards. It was a hard shot but the wind was with me. lol


Was this in Laos?


We were not there
3/15/2008 11:22:56 PM EDT
[#19]

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I still want some. I have no idea why I want or need M995 but it would cool to see it penetrate a big piece of steel. I've looked in to it a little, and they are right, nearly impossible for a civilian to get. I'm almost positive I've seen larger caliber armor piercing rounds available but I don't quite recall where or why, or if I could get my grubby little hands on them. Tungsten carbide sure seems a lot safer that depleted uranium though.


Just buy some .308 AP from www.ammunitiontogo.com and call it a day. M995 won't be going anywhere near your grubby hands. This will most likely hold true even if you DO sign the right papers and hop across the big pond.
3/15/2008 11:47:58 PM EDT
[#20]

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good shooting I shot a quart beer bottle with my pump action daisy at 450 yards. It was a hard shot but the wind was with me. lol


lol n00b

m995 kills all schoolchildren within a 100' blast radius.

my custom chambered Crossman was shootin' dimes at a measured 8,700 yards.  the fact that I'm blind don't deter me, I got a great spotter.

 
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^ link to major win.  
 


3/16/2008 9:20:24 AM EDT
[#21]
Good shooting Rob 78
3/16/2008 3:11:09 PM EDT
[#22]

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.Mil only, only in linked belts for M249, and extreemly rare even in theater.  It is very expensive to make.  



I wish it was or came with the BELTS/ Links I bought
3/16/2008 3:13:32 PM EDT
[#23]

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I still want some. I have no idea why I want or need M995 but it would cool to see it penetrate a big piece of steel. I've looked in to it a little, and they are right, nearly impossible for a civilian to get. I'm almost positive I've seen larger caliber armor piercing rounds available but I don't quite recall where or why, or if I could get my grubby little hands on them. Tungsten carbide sure seems a lot safer that depleted uranium though.


Be nice to play with at my friends Junk Yard
thats about IT
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