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7/28/2007 6:42:56 AM EDT
Are military personal able to purchase .223 ammo at on base commissaries and if so how much do you think they pay for it?  
7/28/2007 6:53:11 AM EDT
[#1]
No.


Some exchanges do have FFLs, and sell firearms. but it's the same stuff you'd get from any old sporting goods store.

I wish i could go to the BX/PX and pick up a case of M855....
7/28/2007 9:15:30 AM EDT
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You can buy 5.56/.223 commercial ammo at the Exchange aboard Camp Pendleton, Ca.

They are currently sold out of all ball 5.56mm.   The last Q3131 i bought there was $3.99 per box.  Of course no tax.
7/28/2007 10:11:58 AM EDT
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Unfortunately, the majority of Air Force exchanges are downsizing anything to do with hunting or firearms.  The PX at Ft. Sam Houston is likewise unfriendly to shooters.  I wish I knew the status of the PX at Ft. Hood-it might be worth the drive if they had anything worth looking at.
7/28/2007 10:57:23 AM EDT
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Unfortunately, the majority of Air Force exchanges are downsizing anything to do with hunting or firearms.  The PX at Ft. Sam Houston is likewise unfriendly to shooters.  I wish I knew the status of the PX at Ft. Hood-it might be worth the drive if they had anything worth looking at.


The Army & Air Force Exchange Service (AAFES) stopped carrying firearms and ammunition around 1993.  The Army is pussified beyond belief when it comes to private firearms, exceeded only by the Air Force.

Navy Exchanges at Marine bases still carry firearms and ammunition.
7/28/2007 10:58:24 AM EDT
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Are military personal able to purchase .223 ammo at on base commissaries and if so how much do you think they pay for it?  


And commissaries sell grocery store items.
7/28/2007 11:49:43 AM EDT
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Are military personal able to purchase .223 ammo at on base commissaries and if so how much do you think they pay for it?  


And commissaries sell grocery store items.


Yep.... used to be that you go to the commissary for the beans and the PX for the bullets....  the times, they are a-changin'
7/28/2007 11:55:33 AM EDT
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The Army is pussified beyond belief when it comes to private firearms, exceeded only by the Air Force.


Hmm...That must be why a buddy of mine, and fellow arfcommer, owns multiple NFA weapons ON BASE.....and runs an FFL out of base housing. All with the blessing of the installation commander, and his CC.

7/28/2007 5:12:18 PM EDT
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Unfortunately, the majority of Air Force exchanges are downsizing anything to do with hunting or firearms.  The PX at Ft. Sam Houston is likewise unfriendly to shooters.  I wish I knew the status of the PX at Ft. Hood-it might be worth the drive if they had anything worth looking at.


The Army & Air Force Exchange Service (AAFES) stopped carrying firearms and ammunition around 1993.  The Army is pussified beyond belief when it comes to private firearms, exceeded only by the Air Force.

Navy Exchanges at Marine bases still carry firearms and ammunition.


Sir, with all due respect, you're wrong on this.  There is an Air Force Base that sells firearms, ammo, safes, and optics in the state I'm in.  Supposedly the PX on Ft Richardson does the same for the Army.  

Agree 110% with everything else you said.

ETA:  I wish I could buy ammo at the commissary--somewhere between the frozen foods and bread aisle would do fine.
7/28/2007 8:54:20 PM EDT
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You can buy 5.56/.223 commercial ammo at the Exchange aboard Camp Pendleton, Ca.

They are currently sold out of all ball 5.56mm.  



And I suppose you'd have us believe it's just coincidence that you happen to be posted there, eh Maj?  Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.


Bear

(And no, I don't know anything about those reports of .308 hording in Northern Arizona..... )

7/29/2007 5:56:40 PM EDT
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The Army is pussified beyond belief when it comes to private firearms, exceeded only by the Air Force.


Hmm...That must be why a buddy of mine, and fellow arfcommer, owns multiple NFA weapons ON BASE.....and runs an FFL out of base housing. All with the blessing of the installation commander, and his CC.

He meant "the Army," as in the bureaucratic overhead that somehow actually gets Soldiers where they are supposed to be some of the time, NOT "the Army" as in those individual Soldiers.  The BUREAUCRATS that run both the Army and the Air Force think with their pens, not their bars or stripes, and that is a BIG problem.


GHPorter's right about what I meant.

1.  Registration of all firearms on Army posts.
2.  No way to 'deregister' firearms upon separation or retirement.
3.  Soldiers needing chain of command authorization to buy firearms.
4.  Commanders attempting to order Soldiers to register off-post firearms (including those at parents' homes) - former CG, III Corps and Fort Hood and former CG, XVIII ABN Corps and Fort Bragg.
5.  Commanders order Soldiers not to CCW even with CHL - former Commanding General of US Army Alaska (USARAK).
6.  No sale of retail sales of firearms or ammunition in AAFES stores.
7.  Closing Rod and Gun Clubs.

The Installation Commander's office at Fort Bragg tried to have anyone who brought firearms on post to shoot at the Rod and Gun Club or hunt register them on post (whether the owner was in the Army or not) - and as mentioned above, once entered into the interconnected MP database there was no way to 'deregister' them.

The Army as an institution (government bureaucracy) is aggressively liberal / progressive despite the personal conservatism of many military personnel.


That is a NC thing, you need their signature to get NC firearm purchase permits.  In states w/o purchase permits, no CDR's approval is needed.
7/29/2007 6:47:24 PM EDT
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The Army is pussified beyond belief when it comes to private firearms, exceeded only by the Air Force.


Hmm...That must be why a buddy of mine, and fellow arfcommer, owns multiple NFA weapons ON BASE.....and runs an FFL out of base housing. All with the blessing of the installation commander, and his CC.

He meant "the Army," as in the bureaucratic overhead that somehow actually gets Soldiers where they are supposed to be some of the time, NOT "the Army" as in those individual Soldiers.  The BUREAUCRATS that run both the Army and the Air Force think with their pens, not their bars or stripes, and that is a BIG problem.


GHPorter's right about what I meant.

1.  Registration of all firearms on Army posts.
2.  No way to 'deregister' firearms upon separation or retirement.
3.  Soldiers needing chain of command authorization to buy firearms.
4.  Commanders attempting to order Soldiers to register off-post firearms (including those at parents' homes) - former CG, III Corps and Fort Hood and former CG, XVIII ABN Corps and Fort Bragg.
5.  Commanders order Soldiers not to CCW even with CHL - former Commanding General of US Army Alaska (USARAK).
6.  No sale of retail sales of firearms or ammunition in AAFES stores.
7.  Closing Rod and Gun Clubs.

The Installation Commander's office at Fort Bragg tried to have anyone who brought firearms on post to shoot at the Rod and Gun Club or hunt register them on post (whether the owner was in the Army or not) - and as mentioned above, once entered into the interconnected MP database there was no way to 'deregister' them.

The Army as an institution (government bureaucracy) is aggressively liberal / progressive despite the personal conservatism of many military personnel.


That is a NC thing, you need their signature to get NC firearm purchase permits.  In states w/o purchase permits, no CDR's approval is needed.


True if you live on post.  I lived in Fayetteville, and all I needed was the PMO's sig before going to the Cumberland County Courthouse for purchase permits.  You're right about everything else, the purchase permit deal is a NC thing.

Here in Lousiana, living on post, I can buy whatever I want and then just register it within 3 days.
7/29/2007 10:57:03 PM EDT
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The Army is pussified beyond belief when it comes to private firearms, exceeded only by the Air Force.


Hmm...That must be why a buddy of mine, and fellow arfcommer, owns multiple NFA weapons ON BASE.....and runs an FFL out of base housing. All with the blessing of the installation commander, and his CC.



Love to have details on that one.
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