AR Sponsor
Posted: 7/26/2007 8:57:49 AM EDT
|
Do ya think if we all Email Win or Rem etc That they would come up with a 75gr OTM in 5.56mm I would the WIN RANGER line could use a good 75gr OTM in 5.56mm they have a 69gr smk I think but its in 223rem pressure |
|
Let's see Hornady sells: 75grn match HPBT 75grn T2 75grn A-Max and Sierra sells: 77grn SMK and Nosler Competition sells: 77grn OTM, (who were the first and only bullet company to refer to a bullet as an Open-Tip-Match simply to be different I guess) Why do we need Winchester or Remington to make another 75 grn bullet? What do you think you can do with a new 75grn bullet from Winny or Remy that you cannot do with the choices you have now? mike |
While I agree with you Mike, I think the OP means loaded ammo. And as for that, well, there are already several companies manufacturing similar ammo with 75's and 77's. HSM, Black Hills, Federal, PMC I think, Hornady (The Major used to sell his stuff also). But all this stuff is expensive. I've said it before and will do so again.....reload. It's not hard Mark |
I think there could be more offerings Black hills 5.56 77gr and Hornady 75gr Thats really only 2 unles ya count HS 5.56mm 75 TAp loading |
|
Most people want .223 pressure loads for accuracy if they use heavy match ammo. The only market for 5.56 75 grain loads are LE and terminal ballistics nuts. There are not enough terminal ballistics nuts to have sufficent demand. The LE price would be very difficult to get at or below the current Hornady prices. I dont see it happening. It would be more probable you could get Black Hills to do a run of MK 262 and swap the 77 grain Sierra for a 75 grain Hornady in order to trade a lil accuracy for a lil better terminal ballistics and lower the price a smidge. Then again they have their hands full with MK 262 orders right now. And finally I got ripped off for a special load from Black Hills by someone already so I would not even consider buying such ammo myself at ANY price from ANYONE. |
Yes Im sorry!! Tommy should of PAID it BACK  I remember like yesterday Yes it would be GREAT if Black Hills would do a 75gr 5.56 even in BLUE BOX / 1 fired brass |
Yeah I was just wondering if everone was doing it themselves or buying bullets with the cannelure already present I'm willing to bet I just don't know where to look |
|
They are already selling out of most ammo, and why would they bother to make ammo that's for a relatively small niche market? Then they would also have to deal with people who shoot 5.56 in their .223 rifle and the bad publicity/potential lawsuits that arise from that. It's just not a good business decision for them. |
I tend to agree. The .223 pressure 75 gr OTM loads are sufficient for reasonable self defense distances. The full pressure stuff would probably perform better at 200 yards and beyond. But how many actual self defense situations is one likely to encounter at that distance? Not many, if any. IMHO, people who insist on running 75 gr OTM at full 5.56mm pressures for the purposes of self defense are probably over-emphasizing the need for velocity. Out to 100 yards, the .223 pressure stuff will perform just fine from carbines. As such, DocGKR (Dr. Gary Roberts) has endorsed it as an acceptable load for LEO use or for civilian self defense needs. I don't have one single round of 5.56 pressure 75 gr OTM in my house and I could honestly care less. The Black Hills 75 gr OTM is more than adequate to meet my needs, as well as nearly everyone else's needs on this board in terms of performance. |
Exactly, but not everyone agrees. |
The Only OTM 5.56 load I have is the White box BH 77gr Its pretty accurate But I Find the Blue box 77gr a tad bet better as Far as TIGHT ASS GROUPS GO  Yes I Try to Keep Blue Box 75gr in stock at all times Yes My LMT`S M4 14.5`s Loves all 3 Types Yes I found out YEARS ago when Reloading with my Dillon that when you go UP sometimes YA GO Down in accrucay? So I guess if More 5.56 75OTMS come to play in the market NO ONE would be HAPPY about the competition |
And a fast hit is even better than a slow miss......most shooters in shorter length barrels want the 5.56 pressure, faster burn rate & magnum primer = reliability |
But from a short barrel the difference is only 37 fps.
|
Do WE Qualify as MOST SHOOTERS  Its true I would PICK 5.56 mm pressure loads OVER 223rem pressure Loads AS LONG AS IT IS AS ACCURATE AS MK262 or 5.56 75TAP The MK262 in my 2 14.5 lmt M4S is VERY accurate BH 223 77gr AINT MUCH BETTER |
AR Sponsor