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Posted: 3/31/2006 7:34:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/31/2006 7:35:05 PM EDT by djc119]
Does anyone have data on any of the following (all zeroed at 100 yds, though I still have to measure the heights of my scopes):


Port FNM 147 gr FMJ bullet, 20" barrel, muzzle velocity and bullet drop from 100-600 yds in 50 yd increments.

Port FNM 147 gr FMJ bullet, 24" barrel, MV and BD.


Port BF 147 gr FMJ bullet, 20" barrel, MV/BD.

Port BF 147 gr FMJ bullet, 24" barrel, MV/BD.


SA R1M1 147 gr FMJ bullet, 20" barrel, MV/BD.

SA R1M1 147 gr FMJ bullet, 24" barrel, MV/BD.


Fed GM 168 gr SMK bullet, 20" barrel, MV/BD.


I've already got the data on the 168 SMK down a 24" barrel from Federal's website, but they don't give the bullet's BC, nor do I have any idea what the BC's or MV's are for the surplus bullets.

Hell, if I could just get the BC's and MV's I could do the rest myself with the tools available on the web.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.


Link Posted: 3/31/2006 9:11:08 PM EDT
Without knowing the velocity out of your rifle, I don't think you can get accurate bullet drop info, just guesses that may or may not be in the ballpark.
Link Posted: 4/1/2006 5:41:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MonkTx:
Without knowing the velocity out of your rifle, I don't think you can get accurate bullet drop info, just guesses that may or may not be in the ballpark.



That I know, but since I don't have a chrony I'm just looking for some baseline numbers that I can use to start with.

Again, thanks for any help.
Link Posted: 4/1/2006 12:33:32 PM EDT
djc119, this is all I could find, hope it helps. It should at least give you a real good average to use.


Borrowed from the FalFiles:
IMBEL kit & IMBEL receiver 21" barrel (Rifle A)

Hirtenberger HP-78
Avg. MV: 2642 fps
Std. Dev: 36.4

Portuguese BF 80-28
Avg. MV: 2654 fps
Std. Dev: 24.4

Portuguese BF 80-34
Avg. MV: 2624 fps
Std. Dev: 26.9


STG-58 kit & IMBEL receiver 20.5" barrel (Rifle B)

Hirtenberger HP-78
Avg. MV: 2665 fps
Std. Dev: 14.2

Portuguese BF 80-28
Avg. MV: 2620 fps
Std Dev: 20.7

IMBEL kit & IMBEL receiver 21" barrel (Rifle A)

Portuguese BF 80-34
Avg. MV: 2750 fps
Std. Dev: 27.4

Radway-Green 84 (delinked)
Avg. MV: 2773 fps
Std. Dev: 22.6

DAG 20/79
Avg. MV: 2801 fps
Std. Dev: 11.9

STG-58 kit & IMBEL receiver 20.5" barrel (Rifle B)

Portuguese BF 80-34
Avg. MV: 2746 fps
Std. Dev: 21.2

Radway-Green 84 (delinked)
Avg. MV: 2830 fps
Std. Dev: 25.3

DAG 20/79
Avg. MV: 2752 fps
Std. Dev: 9.9

FN LAR Para 21" barrel (Rifle C)

Portuguese BF 80-28
Avg. MV: 2778 fps
Std Dev: 32.4

Radway-Green 84 (delinked)
Avg. MV: 2798 fps
Std. Dev: 15.4

DAG 20/79
Avg. MV: 2763 fps
Std. Dev: 18.1

DSA SA58 Standard 21" barrel (Rifle D)

Portuguese BF 80-28
Avg. MV: 2762 fps
Std. Dev: 30.9

Radway-Green 84 (delinked)
Avg. MV: 2766 fps
Std. Dev: 20.8

DAG 20/79
Avg. MV: 2775 fps
Std. Dev: 20.9
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Link Posted: 4/1/2006 12:35:34 PM EDT
Here's some more form the Files:

South African 78
Headstamp-7.62 R1M1 A78
Berdan Primer - 3-point crimp,purple sealer
Case Length-2.01
Case weight w/primer 142.6
Powder- 43.0 gr tubular
Bullet FMJBT lead core,copper jacket
Bullet weight 142.6
Bullet length 1.12
OAL 2.79
Chron'd 5 rds-2662,2671,2669,2697,2744
Average for 5 rounds 2689
Average Deviation 25.52
standard deviation33.69
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 7:10:26 PM EDT
Thanks for the numbers monktx. I'll play with them and then see how close they come to how my rifle's are actually shooting.

Eventually I'll have to break down and buy a chrony, and I just ordered Ammo & Ballistics II by Bob Forker. That should help a bit.

BTW, the rifles I'm using are a 24" SA M1A and a 20" Savage 10FP.
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