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Posted: 3/23/2006 1:09:28 PM EDT

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I probably have at least 750 rounds of UMC made in the late 80's early 90's. It was the most accurate in my HBAR COLT 1/7 twist at the time.
This still shoots very nicely in my Varminter and bushy 16. I doubt if its anywhere near as accurate in my current guns as thw WWB Made in Israel.
JR

Posted: 3/23/2006 4:01:19 PM EDT

[#2]

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I bought remington .223 because my walmart NEVER has the $7.74 55gr fmj 40rd value packs only the 45gr hollow pts. I gave the cases the once over look and they were kinda dull and a few dings but nothing to raise a red flag about. It all shot flawlessly through my 16" bushy XM15
before that horrible boating accident in which all my guns were lost never to be recovered but if I were ever blessed to shoot again I wouldn't hesitate to buy it.

WTF?!!!?!?! what happened........

Posted: 3/23/2006 4:03:56 PM EDT

[#3]

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I bought remington .223 because my walmart NEVER has the $7.74 55gr fmj 40rd value packs only the 45gr hollow pts. I gave the cases the once over look and they were kinda dull and a few dings but nothing to raise a red flag about. It all shot flawlessly through my 16" bushy XM15
before that horrible boating accident in which all my guns were lost never to be recovered but if I were ever blessed to shoot again I wouldn't hesitate to buy it.

WTF?!!!?!?! what happened........

shhhhhhhhh

It is an inside joke we use when we talk about what happens if guns are banned. Everyone will misteriously have boating accidents. You didn't hear this from me.

Posted: 3/23/2006 6:49:37 PM EDT

[#4]

O I C. well, i guess the boat is the best place to store your guns then.

Posted: 3/23/2006 7:04:34 PM EDT

[#5]

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I bought remington .223 because my walmart NEVER has the $7.74 55gr fmj 40rd value packs only the 45gr hollow pts. I gave the cases the once over look and they were kinda dull and a few dings but nothing to raise a red flag about. It all shot flawlessly through my 16" bushy XM15
before that horrible boating accident in which all my guns were lost never to be recovered but if I were ever blessed to shoot again I wouldn't hesitate to buy it. hr

Whats going on with the WWB? I usually purchase it at Academy but for the last month they are out of stock. All the Walmarts I've been to latley are selling the 40 packs for $ 9.98 now instead $7.73. I went to two Walmarts tonight and at the first one I purchased the only box remaining which was the display box behind the glass case and the second had about 50 boxes ( I got 4 boxes). Both locations are charging $9.98 per 40 pack.

Posted: 3/23/2006 11:39:49 PM EDT

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If you guys can't find the Remington UMC try a different walmart. I know here in st. Louis, I frequent 4 different wally's from time to time, and only one carry's "cheap" ammo. It all depends on who does the ordering (according to the sports dept. manager I talked to). The one that carrys UMC won't let me buy a case, but they did let me buy 30 boxes :-). They also carry federal "bulk packs" for 50 bucks (200rounds) It seems to be a little better then the UMC, and is hollow point. Thats what I use for the ol' coyotes.

Posted: 3/24/2006 6:20:02 AM EDT

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I bought remington .223 because my walmart NEVER has the $7.74 55gr fmj 40rd value packs only the 45gr hollow pts. I gave the cases the once over look and they were kinda dull and a few dings but nothing to raise a red flag about. It all shot flawlessly through my 16" bushy XM15
before that horrible boating accident in which all my guns were lost never to be recovered but if I were ever blessed to shoot again I wouldn't hesitate to buy it.

WTF?!!!?!?! what happened........

Sorry. I couldn't resist.

Posted: 3/24/2006 7:05:09 AM EDT

[#8]

that's XM193 price though? why would you get commercial when you can get the 556 for same price?

Posted: 3/24/2006 7:06:38 AM EDT

[#9]

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that's XM193 price though? why would you get commercial when you can get the 556 for same price?

XM193 for $200/k. Where?

Posted: 3/24/2006 9:18:51 AM EDT

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that's XM193 price though? why would you get commercial when you can get the 556 for same price?

XM193 for $200/k. Where?

he quoted "$212.50 per case here in NC"

Ammoman Prvi PArtizan M193 is 209 shipped - this ammo is at least as good as XM193 if not better.

Posted: 3/24/2006 9:22:55 AM EDT

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that's XM193 price though? why would you get commercial when you can get the 556 for same price?

XM193 for $200/k. Where?

he quoted "$212.50 per case here in NC"

Ammoman Prvi PArtizan M193 is 209 shipped - this ammo is at least as good as XM193 if not better.

Yea I know, but if you want readilly available .223 and dont want to wait for your case to get here thats what i started this thread for. theres plenty of internet sources for 5.56 at this price. but hey thanks for stopping by.....

Posted: 3/24/2006 10:47:58 AM EDT

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that's XM193 price though? why would you get commercial when you can get the 556 for same price?

XM193 for $200/k. Where?

he quoted "$212.50 per case here in NC"

Ammoman Prvi PArtizan M193 is 209 shipped - this ammo is at least as good as XM193 if not better.

Yea I know, but if you want readilly available .223 and dont want to wait for your case to get here thats what i started this thread for. theres plenty of internet sources for 5.56 at this price. but hey thanks for stopping by.....

you're telling me a week wait isn't worth it when oredering ammo in bulk? plus they bring it to your door, instead of lugging it to car, from car, etc.

Posted: 3/24/2006 12:09:31 PM EDT

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that's XM193 price though? why would you get commercial when you can get the 556 for same price?

XM193 for $200/k. Where?

he quoted "$212.50 per case here in NC"

Ammoman Prvi PArtizan M193 is 209 shipped - this ammo is at least as good as XM193 if not better.

Yea I know, but if you want readilly available .223 and dont want to wait for your case to get here thats what i started this thread for. theres plenty of internet sources for 5.56 at this price. but hey thanks for stopping by.....

you're telling me a week wait isn't worth it when oredering ammo in bulk? plus they bring it to your door, instead of lugging it to car, from car, etc.

Seriously and if you buy in bulk you don't have to wait a week to shoot, you should have a respectable stash of ammo for the days that you have the itchen to shoot.

Posted: 3/24/2006 1:38:18 PM EDT

[#14]

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Ammoman Prvi PArtizan M193 is 209 shipped - this ammo is at least as good as XM193 if not better.

Not it its current state, in my weapons, it aint.

Posted: 3/24/2006 7:34:33 PM EDT

[#15]

OK keep bashing me, thanks, Im a broke college student who likes to shoot, I really dont have the money to buy in bulk, so i just go buy 8 boxes and keep myself happy. im sorry if this thread is BS.

NOOB out...

Posted: 3/25/2006 10:45:50 AM EDT

[#16]

I , at times, buy by the case when I have the dough, But most of the time I just chip away at my ammo cache by buying it one box at a time. With 2 kids and 1 more due in July, the money isnt always there even though the wife IS on board. Just keep buying what you can afford wether it be steal case wolf or lake city. Be comfortable with what you can afford and dont let BOZOS put you down for it.
Warrior

Posted: 3/25/2006 4:00:53 PM EDT

[#17]

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If you guys can't find the Remington UMC try a different walmart. I know here in st. Louis, I frequent 4 different wally's from time to time, and only one carry's "cheap" ammo. It all depends on who does the ordering (according to the sports dept. manager I talked to). The one that carrys UMC won't let me buy a case, but they did let me buy 30 boxes :-). They also carry federal "bulk packs" for 50 bucks (200rounds) It seems to be a little better then the UMC, and is hollow point. Thats what I use for the ol' coyotes.

What?? Every Wal-Mart Ive been to has NEVER had any 223 in stock. Whats the price on the UMC?

Posted: 3/25/2006 4:18:25 PM EDT

[#18]

At walmart here in Bradford Pa. they carry the white and green box Remington .223/ 55 grain fmj. I bought the only box they had today and will probably try to talk to the sporting goods manager and see if I can talk him into ordering a few more boxes. BTW... I paid $3.97 + tax
Warrior

Posted: 3/25/2006 4:24:00 PM EDT

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3.97$+tax here aswell.The only thing,They only have 2-3 box in the case at a time.But,I still pick em to add to the stash.

Posted: 3/25/2006 4:32:05 PM EDT

[#20]

I bought 7 boxes today at my local Chinamart because I was low on Federal XM193. I went to the range and shot the last of my XM193 then switched to the Remington. The zero was real close but I found the Remington to be not as accurate and much looser groups (100 yds / 1.5 to 2 moa with the XM193 - 2MOA with the remington with quite a few 4-6 MOA flyers). I'll still buy it for plinking ammo at that price.

Posted: 3/25/2006 5:34:22 PM EDT

[#21]

I buy it from Natchez ( $3.69 ) instead of Chinamart, takes about 2-3 days for shipping to my door. No standing in line, driving , ect...

Posted: 3/25/2006 5:38:53 PM EDT

[#22]

I buy this from my Walmart whenever they have it on hand, but that isn't very often. Shoots good for me, and now it's cheaper than WWB.

Posted: 3/25/2006 5:45:02 PM EDT

[#23]

hey MyakkaVice? Is that the price delivered to your door of is it minus shipping? Just a thought.
Warrior

Posted: 3/25/2006 5:57:00 PM EDT

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hey MyakkaVice? Is that the price delivered to your door of is it minus shipping? Just a thought.
Warrior

Add about $10.- for shipping on anything up to 1500 rounds, about what it costs me to drive to the nearest walmart.

ETA: + $4.- "handling charge" on top of freight, but still cheaper and less pain than going to wal-mart IMHO

Posted: 3/26/2006 4:39:53 PM EDT

[#25]

Where in NC? I hit 3 wal-marts in last sat. I got all they had. A whopping 6 boxes.

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.223 Remington 55 GR. MC
Product # L223R3
Price- $3.97 per box + tax
$198.50 per case + tax

Total- $212.50 per case here in NC

Comes in boxes of 20 with plastic cartrige holder.
img399.imageshack.us/img399/2587/rem2231si.jpg

Posted: 3/26/2006 7:00:38 PM EDT

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Where in NC? I hit 3 wal-marts in last sat. I got all they had. A whopping 6 boxes.
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.223 Remington 55 GR. MC
Product # L223R3
Price- $3.97 per box + tax
$198.50 per case + tax

Total- $212.50 per case here in NC

Comes in boxes of 20 with plastic cartrige holder.
img399.imageshack.us/img399/2587/rem2231si.jpg

just saying in retro spect thats how much a case would cost, but ask the sporting goods manager and he might order you a case...

Posted: 3/26/2006 8:14:16 PM EDT

[#27]

I just bought half a case (500 rounds) of Remington 55gr. L223R3 from Natchesss. Here is what it came out at:
Order Totals:
Subotal: $92.25
Shipping: $20.23
Insurance: $ 0.50
Hazmat: $ 0.00
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Total Order: $112.98

I'm on the Left Coast so maybe my shipping is more.

Posted: 3/26/2006 8:25:43 PM EDT

[#28]

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OK keep bashing me, thanks, Im a broke college student who likes to shoot, I really dont have the money to buy in bulk, so i just go buy 8 boxes and keep myself happy. im sorry if this thread is BS.

I'm right there with you. I'm poor as hell trying to keep up with these guys and they're extravagate buying habbits. I have been buying a couple of boxes of this stuff for 3.97 a box when I can get a few bucks together. Building the AR in the first place is hard enough without $209 left over for bulk orders.

Posted: 3/26/2006 8:33:16 PM EDT

[#29]

I bought 1 box of the Rem-UMC today at the local Wallyworld. The WWB value packs were 9.98 like everywhere else. They didn't have any on hand, since I bought 8 boxes a couple of weeks ago. The guy at the counter said they only send him 1 box of Rem-UMC 223 at a time.hock.gif

Posted: 3/27/2006 4:29:41 PM EDT

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I bought 1 box of the Rem-UMC today at the local Wallyworld. The WWB value packs were 9.98 like everywhere else. They didn't have any on hand, since I bought 8 boxes a couple of weeks ago. The guy at the counter said they only send him 1 box of Rem-UMC 223 at a time.

I believe him, I've hit about 4 Wal-Marts and not a single one has had a box of the UMC on hand. I can find the place on the shelf for it by the $3.97 price tag but it's always fricking empty. Just wait, Remington's going to up the cost now because you guys gave it some attention.

Scott

Posted: 3/27/2006 4:45:05 PM EDT

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I've shot it. It's fine. Cheap, no FTF's or squibs, nothing. Just shoots and goes.

+1

Not bad on accuracy, either.

Posted: 3/27/2006 4:57:56 PM EDT

[#32]

FYI shot my best group pretty much ever yesterday with the WWB rem223...

150 feet, 16" RRA FreeFloated, Tripower, Aimpoint magnifier, benchrest, indoors at the NRA.

5 rounds. After the third and fourth rounds I was all, 'ONE HOLE! ONE HOLE!!!!'

Till the last foresaken cursed shot on the left!

Posted: 3/27/2006 7:45:08 PM EDT

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I cant tell you how many 1-hole groups I have had, at 100yds, on the first three shots, only to open up on the 4th and 5th shots.

Posted: 3/27/2006 8:09:20 PM EDT

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I cant tell you how many 1-hole groups I have had, at 100yds, on the first three shots, only to open up on the 4th and 5th shots.

are you kidding me? I just graduated from 75 feet! If I was at 100 yards and had 3shots 1hole I would stop right there and become aa 3 shot grouper!

Posted: 3/28/2006 5:36:56 AM EDT

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Quoted: I just graduated from 75 feet!

whew i though i was the only one who was shooting 25 yrds..... <--- NOOB

Posted: 3/28/2006 5:54:50 AM EDT

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are you kidding me? I just graduated from 75 feet! If I was at 100 yards and had 3shots 1hole I would stop right there and become aa 3 shot grouper!

Nope. Do it all the time. It REALLY pisses you off when you see the 4th one fly 3/4" off.

One of the things that sucks about a 20X scope - you can see your bullet holes immediately. When I see the 3 shot 1 hole grouping, my heart starts racing, because I have *never* *ever* been able to fire a 5 shot 1 hole group. I have gotten a few 5 shot all-touching... but they always carried a verticle or horizontal string.

Is that so much to ask?

I dont know if the group opening up to .75 to 1MOA on the last couple is just statistical luck of the draw, or if the adrenaline factor really has an impact. Sometimes I try and slow down.... but it never seems to fail. It is almost always shot #4 or #5 that ruins my group.

Posted: 3/28/2006 6:26:23 AM EDT

[#37]

ahh, optics.... thats what im missing...... hmmmm....... who wants to let me borrow $400 for an EoTech??? What type of optics should i get to shoot 50 yds with?
changing thread, maybe i should look in the optics forum......

Posted: 3/28/2006 8:28:44 PM EDT

[#38]

When I was in the Nam and in a hole, I could shoot a 20-round group in a 3-FOA in about 4 seconds ... with the rifle held two feet over my head.hug.gif

Posted: 3/28/2006 8:32:48 PM EDT

[#39]

Sorry that grouping should read (converted) 36MOA!hug.gif

So I'm feeling pretty good about my 1.5MOA at 25 yards right now ... with iron sights only and one hell of a blurry front sight (old age).

Posted: 3/28/2006 8:35:55 PM EDT

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When I was in the Nam and in a hole, I could shoot a 20-round group in a 3-FOA in about 4 seconds ... with the rifle held two feet over my head.

So that was you on the news behind the wall back then???

Posted: 3/28/2006 9:02:37 PM EDT

[#41]

Just bought 5 boxes tonight. I wish I'd had money for the other 5 that they had.

Posted: 3/29/2006 12:11:22 PM EDT

[#42]

Just checked out another WalMart near Denham Springs, La., and the guy was really nice and told me he was getting 10 boxes of WWB (40 round boxes) in the next week and he would keep ordering them as long as we kept buying them. He had only 2 boxes of the Rem UMC stuff and one white box of 45gr varmint.

But then he showed me a fair deal on some Federal 50gr HP (no, not the Win 45gr varmint stuff). It was a value pack of 200 rounds (boxed in 20s) for $49. They are Power-Shok and stamped FC 223. They have a 3400 muzzle velocity. They are in a bluish gray and red box. I bought his only two boxes for 400 rounds total.

Anybody know more about these Fed 50s? Looks like some good short range and plinking stuff.

Posted: 3/29/2006 12:41:05 PM EDT

[#43]

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Just bought 5 boxes tonight. I wish I'd had money for the other 5 that they had.

Bought the last 8 my Wal-Mart had. After payday, I'll be going back for more, hopefully they'll get a shipment in before the end of the month.

Posted: 3/30/2006 7:14:59 PM EDT

[#44]

WWB Isreal is more accurate, but this will do for my WWB replacement. still shoots really good.........

Posted: 3/30/2006 9:00:56 PM EDT

[#45]

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Sorry that grouping should read (converted) 36MOA!

So I'm feeling pretty good about my 1.5MOA at 25 yards right now ... with iron sights only and one hell of a blurry front sight (old age).

Got to get a EOTech. I know what you mean about the blurry front sight. EOTech will fix all that.

Back to ammo. What kills us in RI is the 7%sales tax. I can get 2k of AE delivered to my door for $402. I would like to try the UMC. Like seahawkdodge posted

"I have used Remington UMC in all of my handguns. It's well priced and I haven't had any problems."

Same here. Good range ammo.

Posted: 3/31/2006 3:04:23 AM EDT

[#46]

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What kills us in RI is the 7%sales tax.

NC SAME PROBLEM....

Posted: 3/31/2006 5:40:08 AM EDT

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When I was in the Nam and in a hole, I could shoot a 20-round group in a 3-FOA in about 4 seconds ... with the rifle held two feet over my head.hug.gif

hat

Thats funny. I was born in '72 so I have no firsthand memories, but I know exactly what video clip you are talking about.