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Posted: 2/23/2006 2:13:09 PM EDT
SOG is selling 1200 round cases for $132. Sounds too cheap for good ammo to me.
Is there something wrong with this batch?
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 2:53:30 PM EDT
I think this was the +P++++ Cold weather subgun ammo. If it's that stuff it is WAY to hot to safely use in many pistols. Check to make sure before buying it.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 3:00:49 PM EDT
From the image it's the same type of box as the super hot ammo. Call them and ask them if the box labeled L7A1. If so, stay away.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 5:35:12 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 5:51:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/23/2006 5:51:52 PM EDT by FALARAK]
L7A1 is awesome quality stuff. There is not official pressure rating for "+P+" but this stuff is beyond +P. However, there are many reports of people shooting this in Glocks and Sigs.... but I wouldnt. Asking for trouble. I bet it runs great in subguns with supported chambers, made for hot ammo.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 6:33:11 PM EDT
You do realize that this stuff was supposed to be recalled, right? 10 million rounds or something like that hit the market. It was NOT supposed to be imported. Shoot it at your own risk.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 7:16:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fxntime:
You do realize that this stuff was supposed to be recalled, right? 10 million rounds or something like that hit the market. It was NOT supposed to be imported. Shoot it at your own risk.



As mentioned in one of the above posts, it is meant for blow-back subguns with a well-supported chamber. I have shot up a bunch in my semi-auto Uzi SBR. It is HOT! I wouldn't shoot it in a pistol myself. It is beautiful high-quality ammo.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 9:07:26 PM EDT

Department of the Treasury
ATF Office of Public Information

For Immediate Release FY-97-6
Contact: Vickie Saunders
Date: November 7, 1996

HAZARDOUS AMMUNITION

Washington--The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) has been advised by Hirtenberger AG, Hirtenberg, Austria, that certain 9Xl9 mm
caliber ammunition produced by Hirtenberger is unsafe for use in any handgun.

The ammunition, designated L7A1 and produced ln the years 1990 through 1992, was produced for the British Ministry of Defense specifically for use in submachineguns under adverse conditions. The ammunition was loaded to produce pressures far in excess of that intended for use in handguns.

The manufacturer advises that up to 12 million rounds of this ammunition has recently been sold on the world surplus market. The ammunition can be identified by the following head stamp located on the bottom of the cartridge case

12 O'clock position: HP
3 O'clock position: 90, 91, or 92
6 O'clock position: L7Al
9 O'clock position: the marking of a cross within a circle

This ammunition should not be fired.



Link Posted: 2/23/2006 10:37:42 PM EDT
you guys think this stuff would be safe an in 9mm AR?
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:07:14 AM EDT
Thanks for the answers. I think I will pass on their tempting offer.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 7:31:02 PM EDT
would this work safely in a 9mm AR?
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 11:11:28 PM EDT
I read that it was OK to use it in Ruger P series. Can anyone comfirm this?
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 11:39:52 PM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 12:04:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Slug-O:
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Link Posted: 3/21/2006 7:53:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ar556223:
I read that it was OK to use it in Ruger P series. Can anyone comfirm this?



Yes, I've shot quite a bit of it through P-85 Ruger pistols. Its right on point of aim at 100yds, it shoots very flat.

I use it mostly in an open bolt Uzi subgun and it runs flawlessly.
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