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Posted: 1/5/2006 4:02:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/7/2006 7:31:56 PM EDT by Valk1500]
With the current situation with ammo, what where the prices for XM193 etc. back in the good ole days? My best guess is that would have been anytime prior to 2005 from the article Troy put out?I currently only have six small boxes of Q3131 Winchester and a box of Wally World Winchester special so I missed the bargain boat of the pre-2005 years? Then again that is because I just got my RRA Tactical Entry a month ago. Anyway, what where the good ole day prices???
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 8:03:29 PM EDT
I always liked to pay about $0.17 a round.
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 8:29:08 PM EDT
Sporting good stores around here charged $4 a box for Winchester 5.56 as far back as 1992. Not sure about shows and the internet.
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 8:50:18 PM EDT
I have Q3131 that I bought at $2.99 per 20 round box. That would have been around '91 or so.
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:04:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/5/2006 9:06:10 PM EDT by repub18]
I remember thinking $180 a case of XM193 was too high. I was getting it from sportsmans guide for $160/1k.


q3131A was around $170/1k

and this was probably less than 2 years ago.
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:12:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/5/2006 9:14:22 PM EDT by brillo]
You can check a few prices back to July, 2004, at the Ammo Price List News Archive.
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 8:47:30 AM EDT

Ammo is almost as bad as gas these days.

2002-2003 prices for Q3131A at Galyans: 2.99/box, plus 10% off ten or more boxes $135/case

Link Posted: 1/6/2006 10:33:34 AM EDT
Just wait for the 06' prices to take effect.
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 1:14:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/6/2006 1:18:21 PM EDT by kevins_garage]
Before Gander Mountain changed their DOUBLE THE DIFFERENCE price matching policy about mid last year, I was able to get in on a lot of great deals on rifle and pistol ammo.

For example, they sold Winchester .223 and 5.56 for about $5 at the stores in my area. When Bass Pro had their sale in Sept. '04 and again last year for under $3, I cleaned up with the price match and was getting 20 round boxes for a buck each ($5 original - $2 difference - $2 double the difference = $1 per box). Same with 9mm. They sold the Winchester 50 rd. packs for about $8 each and Sports Authority had theirs on sale a couple times last year for $5 each. After price match, $2 per box of 50. Now, they will only do the double the difference price match on the first item. Before they used to do it on every item. (No, they did not change the policy because of me.)

I am sure glad I seriously stocked up when I had the chance in late '04 and early '05. My wife thought I was completely nuts for buying over 20K rounds of ammo in one years time.
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 1:45:59 PM EDT
I was looking through some old Machine Gun News mags today (approx 1995) and ran across a few ammo ads.

South African Battlepack ammo is 44.xx a 300 round pack.
30.06 $259.95 per 1000 rnds

Navy Arms Company in NJ ad...
Brass cased 7.62x39 $200.00 per 1000 rnds
8mm $250.00 per 1500 rnds
223 ball $149.95 can of 820 rnds

Arrg, Dillon selling 250 round belts for Browing MG's. $2.00 EACH. Arrg, they are ~$45 now.
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Aside of MG prices... The ammo prices are better now then back in the mid 90's. IMHO.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 7:31:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/7/2006 7:32:40 PM EDT by Valk1500]
I get the impression that the best thing to do is order the XM193 at $230 per 1000 rounds and Winchester Q3131 at $4.23 a box at Academy and just be happy it still exists. I should have stuck to my guns and invested in ammo and AR's all these years since 1992 instead of not keeping up on the prices.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 7:34:23 PM EDT
Wait until the Demorats take office again, we'll all be up shit creek without any ammo, you better buy now!!!
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 8:15:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/7/2006 8:40:55 PM EDT by Valk1500]
Yes, the answer to our ammo problem is Hillary, she will help prices go down.
I sure hope your wrong, but then again the stock market has been better with them in office in the past just look at the years Bill was in, the stock market was great in 2000. Wish is was 1992 again.

I agree with your thought, ammo prices will only get worse. Buy now, I might not be able to laterGas/ammo prices, good analogy.
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 7:28:17 AM EDT
Are we talking about "back in the day" being before some ammunition importation bans? Before Chinese steel-core ammunition was banned for importation you could get PRC 7.62X39mm for not much more than competition-quality .22.
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 7:50:50 AM EDT
I agree, it is a mixed batch on the prices. 9mm seems to be cheaper than it ever was. Good .223 is expensive, but considering Wolf, .223 is almost as cheap as it ever was.

I would agree with the buy now philosphy. ( I just bought 2000 rounds of .308, I don't think it will ever get cheaper.)
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 8:37:48 AM EDT
Sorry man, but we've hit PEAK AMMOTM
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 8:48:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Valk1500:
Yes, the answer to our ammo problem is Hillary, she will help prices go down.
I sure hope your wrong, but then again the stock market has been better with them in office in the past just look at the years Bill was in, the stock market was great in 2000. Wish is was 1992 again.

I agree with your thought, ammo prices will only get worse. Buy now, I might not be able to later

Gas/ammo prices, good analogy.



I always love it when people start talking about how Billary made the stock market run. Ever heard of the Y2K "bug" or the dot com boom? Most companies spent 2 - 3 times their normal IT expenditures in 97-99 in preparation for Y2K. Guess what happened in 2000 - 2002? NO IT spending. Get it? Plus reality hit and the bubble burst on the dotcoms in early 2000. I won't even mention the fact that Billary inherited a recovered economy from Bush Sr.

<sarcasm>I think it would be great to have the Dems back in the office. We can have the AWB of '08. Can't wait for that!!! </sarcasm>

Sorry about my minor rant... At least I can still buy a brick of .22 for $8.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 8:29:58 PM EDT
It's going up faster than gasoline!!! What would you rather own???
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 7:34:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 7:53:27 PM EDT by Valk1500]
The petrochemical companies are laterally expanding into ammo and controlling the price by Peak Ammo.

"Sire, the peasants are becoming restless for affortable ammo, shall we create the illusion of a shortage in order to provide enormous profit margins for the quarter, like those of Q3 of 2005." Huuah! Huuah! Haa Haa...

Hey what's the ticker for Federal Lake City?
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 7:35:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Sorry man, but we've hit PEAK AMMOTM



Right you are.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 1:40:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Aug223:
Wait until the Demorats take office again, we'll all be up shit creek without any ammo, you better buy now!!!



Exactly how I feel. I'm buying and stocking up on as much as possible over the next 3 years.

I'm scared what will happen in the next election.

Even if it's only Wolf I'm trying to buy atleast 2 cases a month right now for no other purpose then stocking up.

All these price increases suck, but atleast there is still some blasting ammo for a somewhat[/] reasonable price.

Stocking up on the 308 is geetting harder though.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 9:01:04 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 9:25:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 9:27:52 PM EDT by brillo]

Originally Posted By Troy:

Originally Posted By Valk1500:
Hey what's the ticker for Federal Lake City?



ATK (Alliant TechSystems), a huge military contractor that also owns Federal, CCI/Speer, RCBS, Outers, Ramline, Weaver, and a few others (most of these were aquired from Blount about 4 years ago). ATK makes all manner of weapons and ammo, and other things, for the military, as well as many civilian products.

-Troy




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