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8/27/2003 7:32:36 AM EDT
Anybody tried it yet? Any commemts?

I did a search and turned up nothing in last 30 days.

Tnx,
Him
8/27/2003 9:22:25 AM EDT
[#1]
Only shot one box (.223 Rem) and that was through my 14" T/C Contender.  Accuracy was nothing to write home about, though that may have been the grip I had on the T/C at the time.  The brass is good if you're a reloader.
8/27/2003 10:24:46 AM EDT
[#2]
[url=http://www.pmp.co.za/products.htm]They have a webpage[/url] with info on their products.

Most people comment that it's good ammo, but a little underpowered compared to M193. I usually see it for $140-150/1000, which is not significantly cheaper than Q3131A. Therefore, I haven't tried it myself.

The same people also make military ammo, but I don't think it's available in the US. PMP might be the same guys that manufactured the SA battlepacks, but I've never seen "fresh" mil-spec ammo from them.
8/27/2003 11:34:43 AM EDT
[#3]
I like it, a lot.
Great brass, and the power level is consistent with any .223 Rem spec ammo.

They are the ones that made/make SA military ammo.

Larry
8/27/2003 11:59:54 AM EDT
[#4]
good stuff.

Not as hot as 3131a. Accurate for low end ammo and some of the best reloadable brass i have ever used.

mike
8/27/2003 1:53:15 PM EDT
[#5]
Buy a lot of it if you like to plink and are a reloader.

It is usually pretty inexpensive.  $140 for 1000 or even less sometimes.  Save that brass!

Accuracy is as good as anything else I have shot in this category. (.223 Rem 55gr. FMJBT)

If you don't want the brass, send it to me!
8/27/2003 6:01:15 PM EDT
[#6]
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Buy a lot of it if you like to plink and are a reloader.

It is usually pretty inexpensive.  $140 for 1000 or even less sometimes.  Save that brass!

If you don't want the brass, send it to me!
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I find it holds up to 5.56 spec loads as well as (or better) anything else, including LC.
Great stuff; I will adopt any unwanted myself.

Larry
8/27/2003 7:32:06 PM EDT
[#7]
i shot about 150rds of it today and was pleased.  while zeroing my aimpoint i got 3 groups that were less than half an inch at 25yds.  
8/28/2003 1:08:42 PM EDT
[#8]
You should expect accuracy to be somewhat less than 2 MOA.
8/28/2003 6:32:59 PM EDT
[#9]
 How is it(PMP) in .308?? A store here by me has it for $8.00 a box .
 is this a decent price ?? seems a little high to me .
8/29/2003 12:18:26 PM EDT
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 How is it(PMP) in .308?? A store here by me has it for $8.00 a box .
 is this a decent price ?? seems a little high to me .
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That is high.You can still find Port or SA for much cheaper.

I have found the PMP to ok out of my Colt. It will hang in the 3in range if I do my part.
8/29/2003 1:14:14 PM EDT
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 How is it(PMP) in .308?? A store here by me has it for $8.00 a box .
 is this a decent price ?? seems a little high to me .
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That is a bit stiff for blasting ammo.  If your running it through a bolt-gun to get the brass, it beats the hell out of anything else out there.
9/1/2003 4:38:45 AM EDT
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 How is it(PMP) in .308?? A store here by me has it for $8.00 a box .
 is this a decent price ?? seems a little high to me .
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I've got a case and a half of the .308......I'm hanging on too it! [headbang] Good stuff for new-manufactured ammo.....


Saw a place here that had it $4.00 more a box then what you are seeing it for!
9/1/2003 7:36:36 AM EDT
[#13]
I bought a case of PMP .223 when I got my 16" AR.  Shot about 500 rounds so far, not a SINGLE hitch.  Can't say too much about accuracy, as I use it in carbine matches, which aren't a great way to judge accuracy.  I do know that they feed, eject, and cycle my AR just fine.  The brass looks good, and is reloadable, but I don't load .223, so I don't keep it.

I'd recommend it for blasting/plinking and carbine matches.  
9/1/2003 8:46:13 AM EDT
[#14]
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The brass looks good, and is reloadable, but I don't load .223, so I don't keep it.

I'd recommend it for blasting/plinking and carbine matches.  
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AAARRGGHHHH!

Dude, if it's not too much trouble you should save it for trade bait, or as a gift to the reloaders among us.  Many of them (us) would be willing to pay shipping plus a sixpack or two for 500 of these cases and be very happy.

9/2/2003 11:36:47 AM EDT
[#15]
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The brass looks good, and is reloadable, but I don't load .223, so I don't keep it.

I'd recommend it for blasting/plinking and carbine matches.  
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AAARRGGHHHH!

Dude, if it's not too much trouble you should save it for trade bait, or as a gift to the reloaders among us.  Many of them (us) would be willing to pay shipping plus a sixpack or two for 500 of these cases and be very happy.

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Maybe I should do that.  I have a buddy that got a bolt .223, and I have some dies and powder I could give him.  Hell, I still have a few hundred empties in various states of prep.  I think I still have 400x 64gr softpoints, some primers and a lb. of powder somewhere....

9/2/2003 12:08:02 PM EDT
[#16]
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Maybe I should do that.  
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You ought.  It loads better than anything except LC, and no primer crimp to deal with.
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