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Posted: 4/8/2018 4:05:51 PM EDT
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As far as the firing pin, we use 17-4 S.S. and precipitation harden them. We spec straightness at .005" over the length of the firing pin. If you have any issues w your firing pin, hit us up, and we will get you sorted [email protected] |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 4:10:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: nope, only thing I heard was that classic Simon & Garfunkel song, The sound of Silence  
2.646 OAL .153 large diameter .103 small diameter 2.416 from tip to shoulder Pretty close to a Wilson pin from what I can tell. |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:38:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:39:05 PM EDT
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If anyone has questions they need answered or feedback, please hit us up at [email protected]
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Posted: 4/11/2018 8:39:33 PM EDT
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Just emailed about which style upper (glock or colt) would be best as a starting point. NFA has the C-5 MP5 9mm lowers out
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Posted: 4/14/2018 9:32:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/14/2018 9:33:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/15/2018 10:56:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryNOT TRUE!!! At least in my case. I have an FM upper that hits the feedramp portion on the Stern Defense adapter in most of my lowers. With the bolt installed you can't even install the rear pin as there is too much pressure against the feedramp on the adapter. I did find an Anderson lower that allowed the adapter to work with the FM upper but the bolt was still rubbing against the adapter feedramp. I took enough off the feed ramp so it no longer rubs and it seems to work fine but only in the one lower when using the Stern adapter. Pretty sure my FM upper is slightly out of spec because even with the bolt out of the upper it will not lock down on most of my pistol lowers. Just the one Anderson with the Stern adapter and on one of my two PSA Glock specific lowers. FM has offered to replace the upper or refund my money but I'm going to run it for now and see how she goes. |
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Posted: 4/15/2018 11:32:22 PM EDT
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We offered to refund your $ or replace the upper, great to hear, sounds like we earned our reputation.
May I ask if you tried lowering the magwell adapter down, as it is shown in the video? Sounds like it works then? We have only ever had to refund one persons money back btw. Couldn't tell you how many uppers we have on the market, but its several thousand. As far as its fitment to other PCC lowers, sadly FM will not produce a BCG with a slot far enough rearward to accommodate the ejector on many pistol lowers. It forces us to make a BCG with an ejector slot that is so far rearward, it creates a thin cross section of material near the large diameter firing pin hole, and we refuse to put a product like that on the market. (shown below)... thin cross section in 9mm BCG We have been successful helping consumers occasionaly remove some material from the rear of the ejector, and getting virtually every lower to run with our upper. Glad its working for you... |
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Posted: 4/15/2018 11:33:56 PM EDT
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We were the title sponsor at the 3 Gun Nationals this year. We ran a demo stage, with 2 guns, that were run over 3 days. Over 12,000 rounds were shot on those rifles, and we had 0 malfunctions...running only Tula steel cased ammo. That was well documented, best of all the 2 rifles we ran, were our original 2 demo rifles. 1 had over 10k rounds, the other over 7k rounds.
Go to 46:30 and see for yourself what Keith Garcia at the 3 Gun Nationals had to say... 3 Gun Nationals feedback on our product... |
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Posted: 4/15/2018 11:37:49 PM EDT
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Rifle Gear in Plano, TX, has had them for several months. They look great but I don't know anything about them.
ETA - sorry, when I posted I didn't realize this was already a 6 page thread with a lot of info in it. |
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Posted: 4/16/2018 1:23:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: NOT TRUE!!! At least in my case. I have an FM upper that hits the feedramp portion on the Stern Defense adapter in most of my lowers. With the bolt installed you can't even install the rear pin as there is too much pressure against the feedramp on the adapter. I did find an Anderson lower that allowed the adapter to work with the FM upper but the bolt was still rubbing against the adapter feedramp. I took enough off the feed ramp so it no longer rubs and it seems to work fine but only in the one lower when using the Stern adapter. Pretty sure my FM upper is slightly out of spec because even with the bolt out of the upper it will not lock down on most of my pistol lowers. Just the one Anderson with the Stern adapter and on one of my two PSA Glock specific lowers. FM has offered to replace the upper or refund my money but I'm going to run it for now and see how she goes.  stern defense mag ad9 glock mag adapter - fm products fm9 side charger ar9 There is me Monday with my fm9 and stern block. I install it in the video too. Maybe it will help you. Let me know https://youtu.be/bandDRhXmbA |
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Posted: 4/17/2018 7:08:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a Question for you, i like to have spare parts for my guns, and think of buying one of your uppers, I would like to have at least one spare firing pin spring and retainer, but cant find them on your website or at Brownells, which style or make do you recommend??? thanks for replying 
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Posted: 4/17/2018 10:21:06 AM EDT
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Good to know, thanks. I was actually looking at the CMMG pins the other day and was wondering if they would work.
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Posted: 4/18/2018 1:11:58 PM EDT
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Okay everyone, I ended up emailing FM and conversed with Paul a bit (very responsive CS by the way.. weekend hours at that!) Something is up with their account here so that is why the lack of response apparently. Passing on info he told me: Billet lowers going to Primary Arms and will be available this coming week. Colt bolt assemblies are shipping to Brownells on Monday so those should be available shortly as well. Any other questions hot up their contact info on their website. |
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Posted: 4/18/2018 7:19:03 PM EDT
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Have the billet lower in now.. I'm super impressed with the quality of this thing WOW. The LRBHO is pretty slick.
Everything is overbuilt, mag release, bolt stop etc. So far my 8.5" build without a pistol brace and with a standard carbine buffer is at 5.6 lbs. So right around 6 lbs total I'd say. |
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Posted: 4/19/2018 12:15:45 AM EDT
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Nice find! Let me know if they work out for you!
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Posted: 4/19/2018 12:17:16 AM EDT
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They were sent, same as the Colt Uppers, its like Amazon there, takes a while to make it out of the warehouse, then to marketing for pics, then they go live. Suspect maybe a week, will ping them tomorrow and advise.
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Posted: 4/19/2018 12:20:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/19/2018 12:20:45 AM EDT
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They were sent, same as the Colt Uppers, its like Amazon there, takes a while to make it out of the warehouse, then to marketing for pics, then they go live. Suspect maybe a week, will ping them tomorrow and advise. |
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Posted: 4/19/2018 11:09:20 AM EDT
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shoot me an email Ill get you sorted info@fm-products
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Posted: 4/21/2018 1:06:20 PM EDT
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pic of our billet lower |
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Posted: 4/21/2018 1:08:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They've had the pics loaded, available for backorder for quite awhile now. I already bought one of your barrels from DSG, and I really want to pair it with one of your bolts. But yet I'm still hearing another week. https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/bolt-parts/bolt-carrier-groups/ar-15-fm-9-colt-bolt-carrier-assembly-prod117658.aspx?avs%7cManufacturer_1=FM%2bPRODUCTS%2bINC |
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Posted: 4/21/2018 11:32:02 PM EDT
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$175
The LRBHO is rediculous |
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Posted: 4/24/2018 9:02:50 PM EDT
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Quoted: They've had the pics loaded, available for backorder for quite awhile now. I already bought one of your barrels from DSG, and I really want to pair it with one of your bolts. But yet I'm still hearing another week. https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/bolt-parts/bolt-carrier-groups/ar-15-fm-9-colt-bolt-carrier-assembly-prod117658.aspx?avs%7cManufacturer_1=FM%2bPRODUCTS%2bINC |
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Posted: 4/26/2018 11:37:52 AM EDT
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PA has the FM complete uppers back on sale. 349.00 for the 16”
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Posted: 4/27/2018 9:45:43 AM EDT
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PA has the FM complete uppers back on sale. 349.00 for the 16” |
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Posted: 4/27/2018 10:08:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for the heads up. The family just ordered my bday gift. Guess I'll be the guiney pig for seing if it can be made to work with the new NEw Frontier Armory C-5 lower My daughter and I took my fm upper/NF Glock lower out for a beat run last weekend. 700 rounds, hot and soft loads. Only had 1 FTE, other than that...flawless. Also shot a uspsa league night..flawless :) |
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Posted: 4/27/2018 11:03:47 AM EDT
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We love hearing this, we are always happy to help people with their builds as well. To date we have not seen anything we could not get to run. Looking forward ot hearing how the C-5 goes!
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Posted: 4/27/2018 1:58:30 PM EDT
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New trigger and optics.
Gun leaning on tree |
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Posted: 4/27/2018 2:54:34 PM EDT
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PA has the FM complete uppers back on sale. 349.00 for the 16” What the heck?!? |
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Posted: 4/27/2018 7:11:53 PM EDT
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Browell's is finally showing the Colt style uppers instock. Now maybe my back order will ship.
Browell's Well the 8.5" and 16" are instock. |
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Posted: 4/27/2018 8:56:47 PM EDT
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they come w ultra light barrel and Muzzle Brake included, surprised pic and description dont reflect that...
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Posted: 4/27/2018 8:57:28 PM EDT
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8.5" comes with forward blast diffuser..
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Posted: 4/27/2018 8:58:54 PM EDT
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we are closing out versions we wont be offering any more...Brownells and PA will still be carrying the products so no worries
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Posted: 4/27/2018 9:01:07 PM EDT
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that pic is sick (stealing)
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Posted: 4/27/2018 11:00:51 PM EDT
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we are closing out versions we wont be offering any more...Brownells and PA will still be carrying the products so no worries Quote HistoryQuoted:
we are closing out versions we wont be offering any more...Brownells and PA will still be carrying the products so no worries Quoted:
Browell's is finally showing the Colt style uppers instock. Now maybe my back order will ship.
Browell's Well the 8.5" and 16" are instock. |
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Posted: 4/29/2018 12:36:08 AM EDT
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I like the new Glock hi cap mags
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Posted: 4/29/2018 10:08:45 AM EDT
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I like the new Glock hi cap mags |
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Posted: 4/29/2018 10:30:22 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/29/2018 10:38:41 AM EDT
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What is going to be different on the new versions vs the old style that is being closed out Quote HistoryQuoted:
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we are closing out versions we wont be offering any more...Brownells and PA will still be carrying the products so no worries |
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Posted: 4/29/2018 8:48:39 PM EDT
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Primary has some product with flash suppressors, they are moving to only getting uppers with muzzle devices.
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Posted: 4/30/2018 9:01:37 AM EDT
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we are closing out versions we wont be offering any more...Brownells and PA will still be carrying the products so no worries I'm not quite ready to "pull the trigger" just yet, but I will be soon. Got me nervous. 
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Posted: 4/30/2018 2:17:57 PM EDT
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They (PA) have a killer deal on some around $310 right now, wont last sadly...
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Posted: 4/30/2018 9:52:15 PM EDT
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They (PA) have a killer deal on some around $310 right now, wont last sadly... |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 9:29:43 AM EDT
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aaaannnnnddd its gone...
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Posted: 5/2/2018 12:29:30 PM EDT
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I got one of the 16 inch uppers for 350 from primary arms and mated it with a psa lower. Fit and Finish is awesome and I got 50 flawless rounds through it so far.
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Posted: 5/2/2018 12:47:02 PM EDT
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Steer clear of White Box, keep it oiled until its broken in. I personally like Tula and Wolf myself.
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Posted: 5/2/2018 2:46:12 PM EDT
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Can this upper handle +P ammo? I stock speer 124 +P.
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Posted: 5/2/2018 9:14:32 PM EDT
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Lots of people using 125 and +p, no issues. No blowback pcc likes defensive rounds, but we have had decent luck with those too.
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