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10/27/2011 7:14:46 PM EDT
Hey guys, I've got plenty of 5.56 stuff, and know my way around that platform well enough.  I want a .22 upper though, and am pretty well clueless.  I am not looking for something that costs a buttload of cash.  I am looking at the CMMG that Palmetto has.  Is that a decent buy?  Is it a durable upper?  How is the accuarcy?  I would rather not make a mistake that costs me a bunch of money, so any help you guys may be able to give would be greatly appreciated!  Thanks, 9080
10/27/2011 7:23:06 PM EDT
[#1]
CMMG is the to go.
10/27/2011 7:35:34 PM EDT
[#2]
How is the bolt on those?  That is a spring type correct?  Is it ever a problem?  What about trigger pins?  I think I read somewhere that .22's break them a lot???  Is that correct?  Thanks guys, Josh
10/27/2011 8:03:37 PM EDT
[#3]
I've got 3 dedicated 22 AR's and have used Colt, Ciener and CMMG conversion kits and have never broken a hammer pin.  It is all about small tolerances as some rifles may break a pin occasionally and other rifles may not.  The cross pins are cheap and can also be replaced by KNS pins if you ever break a pin.   The Cieners we're known to have recoil spring issues and a lot of people bought Lakeside spring kits but the CMMG conversions seem much better and I've not seen  where the CMMG need tweaking liking Ciener conversion.   If your talking about the buffer and spring are not needed with a dedicated upper but I leave my buffer and spring in the lower to mimic the weight of my centerfire AR's.
10/27/2011 8:17:44 PM EDT
[#4]
Vascar, sorry, I wasn't clear.  I did mean the bolt spring, instead of the buffer spring.  Should you have problems with that bolt, is it "rebuildable"?  What kind of accuracy are you getting out of your CMMG?  At what range?   Thanks for your help, Josh
10/28/2011 3:29:52 AM EDT
[#5]
All the parts come apart.
I have not broken anything since "94 or so (never).
Ciener, Model 1 Sales, Spike's, DPMS, CLE, CMMG planned for next (my kid).
My CLE MK 12 Mod O, and Spike's (Lothar Walthar) shoots to .378-.400 to 50yd to SK Standard.
10/28/2011 3:59:20 AM EDT
[#6]
The CMMGs are great dedicated uppers..I cannot really tell you accuracy as far as groups in inches as we do not meusure such stuff but me and my kid are really impressed with the accuracy..Even out to 100 yards it shoots very well..CMMG suggests you do not dissassemble the bolt group yourself but they are a outstanding Co. and if you have any problems they will take care of you very quickly...They have a very good warranty...You may want to pay the extra for the stainless bolt group but we have not and the plain one has been good...We love the .22 upper and its actually alot more fun to shoot than the 5.56..You may also want to order the BHOA to have last shot bolt hold open if thats important to you...You have to use only CMMG mags with the BHOA but it is a good feature to have...If you buy one you will not be dissapointed I believe and ours seems to function and shoot more accurately every time we go out with it...If you do buy it there is a thead here to read about some little things to do to it when you get it..Its a sticky at the top of this section I believe...Be warned though your 5.56 will probably feel neglected when you get the .22 upper..They are coming out with new BHO magazines but its been a slow process and hopefully they will be out soon so if you want those there will be a wait on them but other mags do work fine for now...Thanks
10/28/2011 4:58:47 AM EDT
[#7]
It will soon become your favorite rifle. Ton of fun and cheap to shoot.



PSA: Mine does run well w/o the buffer installed. I get constant light primer strikes.
10/28/2011 5:18:14 AM EDT
[#8]
I have over 20,000 rounds through my original M4 LE. Only a hand ful of FTE's.
It will shoot sub 1" at 50 yards.
Stainless is a must option in my opinion.
Dave N
10/28/2011 5:58:37 AM EDT
[#9]
Dave,



I'm considering doing a couple of dedicated builds. What are the pros/cons of stainless over the parked units in your opinion?

Thanks.
10/28/2011 7:01:31 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Dave,

I'm considering doing a couple of dedicated builds. What are the pros/cons of stainless over the parked units in your opinion?
Thanks.


I have the stainless option and I recommend it highly.
I have no experience with the parked units but the stainless unit operates unbelievably silky smooth and is extremely easy to clean.
10/28/2011 7:52:45 AM EDT
[#11]
The stainless is stronger, smoother, uses less lube, stays cleaner and is easier to clean.
Dave N
10/28/2011 8:12:23 AM EDT
[#12]
Sounds good. Thanks.
10/28/2011 8:57:39 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Sounds good. Thanks.


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