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11/27/2008 7:04:02 AM EDT
I just go a new 22lr upper with a 7.5 inch barrel.  I put it on a new lower with a standard lower parts kit.  I've only fired Blazer through it.

The lower function tests are fine and the disconnect is working like it should.  

BUT

Every once in a while it fires two bullets instead of one.  (I'm very concerned, I don't want an illegal weapon.) Did anyone ever encounter this before?  What are the solutions to fix this?  Should I send the upper back?

The only thing I can think of is that the disconnecter spring is too strong and there isn't enough blow back from the bullet to force it all the way back.

11/27/2008 7:20:10 AM EDT
[#1]
Who made the upper?
11/27/2008 7:23:44 AM EDT
[#2]
Your hammer spring is too strong - the bolt is not getting quite enough momentum to push the hammer back to engage the disconnector, so the hammer is following the bolt forwards. You have two options:

1) Use more powerful ammo... CCI MiniMags would be a good starting point.
2) Replace the GI hammer spring with a reduced power spring, such as the JP yellow spring.

I had the exact same problem with my 7.5" upper and Ciener kit, and the yellow spring 100% cured the problem. It also improves the trigger pull, which is a nice side benefit.

ETA: gratuitous photo:

11/27/2008 9:58:09 AM EDT
[#3]
Did you use a disconector spring?  

That happend to me once when I built an ar15 pistol.  Went full auto and fired bursts.  Make sure that spring is in place or else you will be "slam" firing.
11/29/2008 7:53:43 AM EDT
[#4]
It's a Model 1 Sales upper.

I have the disconnector spring installed.  I took a few coils off it and it seems better.

I'm also going to try a JP yellow spring.  I don't think I'll have light strikes on the rimfire so I'm not worried about them loosing tension.  But you never know.
11/29/2008 11:46:55 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Your hammer spring is too strong - the bolt is not getting quite enough momentum to push the hammer back to engage the disconnector, so the hammer is following the bolt forwards. You have two options:

1) Use more powerful ammo... CCI MiniMags would be a good starting point.
2) Replace the GI hammer spring with a reduced power spring, such as the JP yellow spring.

I had the exact same problem with my 7.5" upper and Ciener kit, and the yellow spring 100% cured the problem. It also improves the trigger pull, which is a nice side benefit.

ETA: gratuitous photo:

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/stealthyblagga/SBRAR1522RF.jpg



100% Correct.
11/30/2008 3:25:12 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
It's a Model 1 Sales upper.

I have the disconnector spring installed.  I took a few coils off it and it seems better.

I'm also going to try a JP yellow spring.  I don't think I'll have light strikes on the rimfire so I'm not worried about them loosing tension.  But you never know.


I thought the Model 1 Sales upper came with a reduced power hammer spring... no ?
11/30/2008 7:41:15 AM EDT
[#7]
Mine didn't
11/30/2008 10:30:59 AM EDT
[#8]
Do the lighter springs cause any problems when switching back to a .223/5.56 upper?
11/30/2008 1:36:01 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Do the lighter springs cause any problems when switching back to a .223/5.56 upper?


Not in my case... I have two rifles running the yellow JP hammer spring, and I cannot ever recall having a light strike.
11/30/2008 3:14:53 PM EDT
[#10]
I've seen other light spring on sale at Brownells.  

Superior Shooting System's Hammer & Trigger Spring Set -  $16.25
and
TTI International's Reduced Power Action Kit - $4.00

Are they better or should I just go with the J P Ent. Yellow springs - $9.95?
11/30/2008 3:37:11 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Do the lighter springs cause any problems when switching back to a .223/5.56 upper?


Not in my case... I have two rifles running the yellow JP hammer spring, and I cannot ever recall having a light strike.



In my experience the lighter spring will run the 5.56 fine but may cause light strikes in the rimfire unit .  I believe the centerfire fireing pin requires less of a wack to run 100%
1/15/2009 11:22:48 AM EDT
[#12]
Here's an update:

I just got the yellow springs in.  They stopped the double firing but as nhsport has said above ^^ they produced some light strikes.  I had a few fail-to-fire.

Not sure if there is a happy medium.  I'm going to try some of the other recommended ammo above.  See what that does.
1/15/2009 4:43:59 PM EDT
[#13]
I had the JP yellow spring in my lower with my Model 1 and had light strikes.  I switched to the hammer spring that Model 1 sent with my upper and had no problems.  You may want to contact Model 1 and ask them for their hammer spring.
Good Luck
1/15/2009 4:56:16 PM EDT
[#14]
Sometimes trimming the recoil spring helps this, to get the bolt all the way back.
1/15/2009 5:04:45 PM EDT
[#15]
like menlo said, my model 1 upper came with lightweight springs.  You may want to call M1S and try and get your hands on a set.  Mine came with a Trigger, Hammer, and Detent Spring  all red in color.
1/17/2009 11:42:10 AM EDT
[#16]
how does your M1S function with those springs?
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