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Posted: 2/6/2006 7:47:47 AM EDT
Is there a difference?

I saw a post in the EE, indicating that there was, at least for the colts.

If so, what is the difference? Is there any benefit to having one over the other in a semi rifle, other than the obvious PC-ness of having something that can't possibly be used in a MG?
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 1:37:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Sully0812:
Is there a difference?

I saw a post in the EE, indicating that there was, at least for the colts.

If so, what is the difference? Is there any benefit to having one over the other in a semi rifle, other than the obvious PC-ness of having something that can't possibly be used in a MG?



Yes, there is a difference. Here's a picture I stole off the web from somewhere, my apologies to the original poster. The full auto is on the left. There is no benefit from one or the other in a semi but Colt stopped producing the semi a long time ago and ships the fulll auto version in all of their guns.

Link Posted: 2/7/2006 5:47:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Beowulf:
There is no benefit from one or the other in a semi but Colt stopped producing the semi a long time ago and ships the fulll auto version in all of their guns.



So does the auto version have the "trigger slap" issues associated with the use of a regular hammer, and non-ramped-semi-bolt?

Or does the full auto colt use its own 9mm specific full auto hammer?
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 8:47:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HorseHung:
So does the auto version have the "trigger slap" issues associated with the use of a regular hammer, and non-ramped-semi-bolt?

Or does the full auto colt use its own 9mm specific full auto hammer?



Yes, the full auto version has the trigger slap issue. In fact, it's a lot more noticable in full auto then in semi. The full auto version uses the standard M16 hammer, its the semi that requires a different hammer. I had my bolt ramped and weighted by SAW.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 6:51:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/7/2006 6:51:55 PM EDT by SHIVAN]
With the tungsten SAW 9mm auto carrier did you stick with a 9mm buffer?

Or did you go to something lighter???
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 3:26:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SHIVAN:
With the tungsten SAW 9mm auto carrier did you stick with a 9mm buffer?

Or did you go to something lighter???



Heavier. On the reccomendation of Ken at SAW I went with the X buffer. Thousands of rounds through the M16/9 and still going. I'm thinking of trying one of those MGI buffers, just to see what all the fuss is about.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 6:02:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Beowulf:

Originally Posted By SHIVAN:
With the tungsten SAW 9mm auto carrier did you stick with a 9mm buffer?

Or did you go to something lighter???



Heavier. On the reccomendation of Ken at SAW I went with the X buffer. Thousands of rounds through the M16/9 and still going. I'm thinking of trying one of those MGI buffers, just to see what all the fuss is about.



Maybe I'll go heavier on the buffer and use faster ammo. I have the SAW tungsten'ed and ramped carrier and an H-Buffer.

Using 115gr Remington UMC FMJ it was slooooow.....

Maybe I'll get some NATO pressure ammo and see how it runs.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 1:59:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SHIVAN:

Originally Posted By Beowulf:

Originally Posted By SHIVAN:
With the tungsten SAW 9mm auto carrier did you stick with a 9mm buffer?

Or did you go to something lighter???



Heavier. On the reccomendation of Ken at SAW I went with the X buffer. Thousands of rounds through the M16/9 and still going. I'm thinking of trying one of those MGI buffers, just to see what all the fuss is about.



Maybe I'll go heavier on the buffer and use faster ammo. I have the SAW tungsten'ed and ramped carrier and an H-Buffer.

Using 115gr Remington UMC FMJ it was slooooow.....

Maybe I'll get some NATO pressure ammo and see how it runs.



I only shoot my reloads so have nothing to compare it to but different ammo would be worth a try. I have no idea what my ROF is, but I can pull singles if I really try. Normally a nice gentle squeeze and release gets me a perfect (for me) three round burst.
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