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Sten mags in a Colt 9mm system!! (Page 5 of 6)
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The "sten block" is not a perfect solution. It brings up issues as w/ the original 2 peice colt block. And many do not want to pin it in, if and when production starts. With less then a year to go with the ban, the Sten block might be a victim of "time". If the ban sets, new manufacture of "colt" mags will resume, making the block useless. So will the idea of engineering guns to fit existing mags. Oh well, time will tell and we shall see.... |
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DrugRunR, I agree that mag prices of Colt Mags will never go as low as Sten mags but the Colt mags are easily worth the 10x the price when you give them a try. Personally, if Colt mags return to below $40/ea I will buy a dozen just for the last round bolt catch and the quality of these mags. I have one Colt mag, and I bought it damaged, and I like it a whole lot better than the the other options except for the insane prices they have gotten to... Sten mags are cheap and they work but they don't work as well as the UZI or Colt mags. I think this thread is great as it adds another option to the AR-15 platform and as I had said before, I have the parts to try this myself but I seem to have too little time. Personally, I think this is why these Sten Mag blocks have not been moved to a comercial production as at this point people, like me, are waiting to see what the law and mag prices does. Just the same, I think I have about 4-dz sten mags at home just in case these were the last HCs I could get... |
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QB, I am not gonna go the sten mag route. Just like you, I am gonna use the UZI mags for now in the HY-tech block and get a ASA block for when the ban goes away and I can snag up the LEO Colt mags for cheap. But I beleive that there is a market for someone if they want to make a STEN MAG adaptor that is relaible. But on the other hand, I just saw that post of the custom lower that uses sten mags with NO adaptor. I wonder if he will make me one for the colt mags. That would be sweet, no adaptor to fool with. CHARLES |
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DrugRunR, The ASA block does not have the bolt hold-open feature. The RRA block does, but I have heard there are problems with it not staying in place. There is also the Hahn Precision block which has the bolt hold open, but it is a bit pricey at $200. |
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Originally Posted By Kaliburz: With less then a year to go with the ban, the Sten block might be a victim of "time". If the ban sets, new manufacture of "colt" mags will resume, making the block useless. I have a use for the Sten blocks without the AW ban. You can squeeze a Grease Gun mag like Dalphon did and they would fit right into a Sten block. That's my plan for a .45 M16. Just waiting now. I've got to get a .45 Colt patern upper next. |
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[url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=15&t=172633[/url] Just "archiving" a thread of a 0% lower that was made to use notched Stens (dedicated lower) that bascially is like the Sten block. Colt type upper used. Edit - Jan 11, 2004 [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=15&t=177868&w=myTopicPop[/url] "Archiving" a thread... the Uzi 9mm bolt hold open thread. Edit- April 9, 2004 More archving of posts [url=http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=15&t=186137&w=myTopicPop]Covus' Oly 45 2 Piece[/url] |
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| Once I get my Sten mag adapter, I'm going to see if I can find someone to build a barrel in .45 GAP. As soon as I get some .45 GAP ammo I'm going to see how it fits in a Sten mag. :) |
Disclaimer: My opinion is based on what I hear, what I see, and what I feel. I don't always adhere to a scientific approach based on undeniable facts.
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If these mag blocks ever get finished I would like to buy one. Please email me at [email protected] when you get you computer back and the blocks ready for sale. Thanks, Ghilly |
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Weird..... says 12 pages, but "text" is at page 9.... OH...something interesting.... SNSIndustries mentioned this in another thread. Thread where quotes came from
And SNSIndustries reply:
Well folks, maybe SNS Industries is your best bet.... I 'IM-ed' for a little more details and a price. Time will tell.... Never mind..... no longer being made.  |
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The "original" Colt style magwell adapter blocks for STEN mags I started making a few years ago during the AWB.... will work with the Oly Arms uppers interchangably... just remove or add the ejector for each style, respectively. The "new" ones will not have the ejector slot milled, and thus will only be for Oly Arms style pistol caliber uppers. ~D~ SNS |
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Just in case you felt bad about going to all the trouble to do a Sten magwell conversion and now find that, since the AWB is dead, you can buy new Hi-cap 9mm mags, there is an alternative to the sten mags so hold on to the sten magwell setup. The Suomi 36 round stick mag can be modified with ease and the "Like New" price on them runs around $10. They are DOUBLE STACK, DOUBLE FEED just like the uzi mags but a lot cheaper -- for now! If the word gets around the price will go up just like with the sten mags. There are small tabs on the front and rear of the suomi that need to be ground down to match the front-to-back size of the stens -- like 1.5". The width of the mags must be adjusted slightly since they are a bit too wide -- just grind a little off each side till they fit -- a little squeeze in a vise will help! Cut the notch in the side just like you did with the sten and you're done! |
If you decide to try the suomi mags then you will have a few spare stens laying around. Try finding a suomi 72 round drum mag and put the two together for even more fun! This was a quick prototype and it works! The drums run around $20 right now so there is still a lot of things that can be done with that old sten magwell conversion. |
This is from said companies site:
Well folks, for you who have a subscription to this thread, there is the latest update.... (If the mods feel that this post may consitute an advertisement, I appologize. IT is only ment as an update for those who followed this project.....) |
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I tried going through this thread but a lot of the formatting has gone to hell making it hard to sift through is there an easy, no (or very basic) modifying needed, set up for using Sten mags in a colt style 9mm upper currently available? NY still has a ban, so new mags are out, and I have a bunch of sten mags I bought years ago in preparation for getting an oly style upper. but from what I can tell colt style uppers are easier and cheaper to find and offer more options, but since I already have sten mags and NY still has a ban I need to be able to use my sten mags |
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