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Posted: 1/8/2016 12:57:03 PM EDT
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I am sure this has been covered many times but I couldn't find what I was searching for. I am newish to the AR and recently bought an M&P15 for home defense. My question is: what would be a good Muzzle Brake for a self defense AR? The standard Flash Hider has a lot of muzzle rise and I want something to eliminate or greatly reduce it. I am sure there are a lot of opinions about them but I just want a decent priced one that will do the job. Thanks! |
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Hi guys! I am sure this has been covered many times but I couldn't find what I was searching for. I am newish to the AR and recently bought an M&P15 for home defense. My question is: what would be a good Muzzle Brake for a self defense AR? The standard Flash Hider has a lot of muzzle rise and I want something to eliminate or greatly reduce it. I am sure there are a lot of opinions about them but I just want a decent priced one that will do the job. Thanks! A muzzle brake in close quarters/indoors is very unpleasant. Any reduction in muzzle rise would probably be offset by the stunning effect of the concussion from the brake. That being said, I have a Miculek brake on several of my rifles. They are very effective, but unpleasant to bystanders or if you're shooting indoors. |
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A muzzle brake in close quarters/indoors is very unpleasant. Any reduction in muzzle rise would probably be offset by the stunning effect of the concussion from the brake. That being said, I have a Miculek brake on several of my rifles. They are very effective, but unpleasant to bystanders or if you're shooting indoors. Quoted:
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Hi guys! I am sure this has been covered many times but I couldn't find what I was searching for. I am newish to the AR and recently bought an M&P15 for home defense. My question is: what would be a good Muzzle Brake for a self defense AR? The standard Flash Hider has a lot of muzzle rise and I want something to eliminate or greatly reduce it. I am sure there are a lot of opinions about them but I just want a decent priced one that will do the job. Thanks! A muzzle brake in close quarters/indoors is very unpleasant. Any reduction in muzzle rise would probably be offset by the stunning effect of the concussion from the brake. That being said, I have a Miculek brake on several of my rifles. They are very effective, but unpleasant to bystanders or if you're shooting indoors. I got an A2 on mine. I dunno.... It's seems a little silly how guys spend over $100 to "control the recoil" as their ear drums and faces are pounded by the noise and concussive force of their muzzle device. Somehow there are many who can control the recoil of a 5.56 just fine with an A2 flash hider. For competition use? Sure, go with a muzzle brake. For a fun gun? Whatever you want. Just my 2 cents. Take it for what it's worth. |
| Why would you want a muzzle brake on a home defense weapon? They are crazy loud and obnoxious. I have a brake on my "range" AR.....and it's annoying even with ear plugs and ear muffs on....and to tell you the truth, I don't think they really reduce recoil much....there isn't much to begin with. Stick with a standard flash hider. There is absolutely no benefit of having a brake on a HD weapon. |
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You may find this useful.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/04/jeremy-s/ar-15-muzzle-brake-shootout-2/ |
| Most muzzle brakes do nothing to eliminate muzzle flash, and on a home defence gun - where presumably you stand a better than average chance at using it at night - I think reducing muzzle flash will be a heck of a lot more use to you than controlling the small muzzle rise from a .223. One round in the dark from most muzzle brakes and you will not be able to see a thing for several seconds. My advice - stick with a A2 flash eliminator. Alternatively, as has been suggested, go whole-hog and suppress the thing. |
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Precision Armament AFAB is an excellent hybrid compensator that reduces felt recoil (55%) & muzzle rise w/little more flash or concussion than an A2. Tomac I just got one of these based in part on the link I posted above. I have installed it, but haven't had a chance to shoot it yet though. |
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I just got one of these based in part on the link I posted above. I have installed it, but haven't had a chance to shoot it yet though. Quoted:
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Precision Armament AFAB is an excellent hybrid compensator that reduces felt recoil (55%) & muzzle rise w/little more flash or concussion than an A2. Tomac I just got one of these based in part on the link I posted above. I have installed it, but haven't had a chance to shoot it yet though. Frankly, I was surprised at how good an all-around hybrid it is. A friend recently shot both his A2-equipped middy AR and one of my AFAB-equipped middy AR's and he was very surprised at the difference in recoil & muzzle rise. Tomac |
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Frankly, I was surprised at how good an all-around hybrid it is. A friend recently shot both his A2-equipped middy AR and one of my AFAB-equipped middy AR's and he was very surprised at the difference in recoil & muzzle rise. Tomac Quoted:
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Precision Armament AFAB is an excellent hybrid compensator that reduces felt recoil (55%) & muzzle rise w/little more flash or concussion than an A2. Tomac I just got one of these based in part on the link I posted above. I have installed it, but haven't had a chance to shoot it yet though. Frankly, I was surprised at how good an all-around hybrid it is. A friend recently shot both his A2-equipped middy AR and one of my AFAB-equipped middy AR's and he was very surprised at the difference in recoil & muzzle rise. Tomac That's good to hear. I look forward to trying it out. |
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A muzzle brake in close quarters/indoors is very unpleasant. Any reduction in muzzle rise would probably be offset by the stunning effect of the concussion from the brake. That being said, I have a Miculek brake on several of my rifles. They are very effective, but unpleasant to bystanders or if you're shooting indoors. Quoted:
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Hi guys! I am sure this has been covered many times but I couldn't find what I was searching for. I am newish to the AR and recently bought an M&P15 for home defense. My question is: what would be a good Muzzle Brake for a self defense AR? The standard Flash Hider has a lot of muzzle rise and I want something to eliminate or greatly reduce it. I am sure there are a lot of opinions about them but I just want a decent priced one that will do the job. Thanks! A muzzle brake in close quarters/indoors is very unpleasant. Any reduction in muzzle rise would probably be offset by the stunning effect of the concussion from the brake. That being said, I have a Miculek brake on several of my rifles. They are very effective, but unpleasant to bystanders or if you're shooting indoors. Exactly this. I use Miculek and love them. People next to me, even outdoors, not so much. My HD rifles just have the birdcage. |
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No matter what brake you look at, and no matter what anyone tells you, all of them are much too loud for indoor HD use.
A point I didn't see brought up (may have missed it) is the muzzle flash. Brakes and comps direct the blast vs dispersing it like a FH, meaning there really isn't really a good way to get around flash, altho some do it better than others. If you were to use a brake-equipped rifle indoors at night, the first shot WILL temporarily blind you. Go try one at an indoor range with the lights on dim with only a single ear pro if you would like to see an example 
Because of the massive concussion and muzzle flash, my HD gun has a FH, and my do-everything-else gun has a brake...and I generally run both suppressed. The only way I would use gun #2 for HD is with the silencer. If you want to go the brake route the best for your purpose is still probably the battlecomp, but it's still much louder than a flash hider. I used to own a dynacomp, and from what I have seen they have comparable recoil reduction performance, but the BC has less flash, YMMV. DO NOT, however, use one of the large port competition brakes for HD if you ever want to hear again, should you have the unfortunate incident of defending your life at home. I would recommend learning to control the muzzle rise more efficiently, and/or run a silencer. Hope this helps! |
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I get that the AR is the modern musket and symbol of manliness/freedom, etc. But a rifle for "home defense" is totally impractical unless
A) you live in a farm / in a rural area and need the ability to protect yourself while your outside. B) you're willing to SBR the rifle and get a suppressor for it. A real "bump in the night" scenario will not present enough time for a person to wake up, OODA, locate and put on ear pro and then clear your house like a ninja. A pistol muzzle report is over the pain threshold indoors without ear pro but it's not severe enough to disorient you like an AR would. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I get that the AR is the modern musket and symbol of manliness/freedom, etc. But a rifle for "home defense" is totally impractical unless A) you live in a farm / in a rural area and need the ability to protect yourself while your outside. B) you're willing to SBR the rifle and get a suppressor for it. A real "bump in the night" scenario will not present enough time for a person to wake up, OODA, locate and put on ear pro and then clear your house like a ninja. A pistol muzzle report is over the pain threshold indoors without ear pro but it's not severe enough to disorient you like an AR would. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Except it does everything better than a pistol. I'll gladly lose a little hearing if it means I'm not dead. I keep both by my bed fwiw. Pistol goes if I don't have time to get the AR up. |
My brother in law bought this muzzle brake for his rifle:
Made the rifle very unpleasant to shoot. Muzzle rise/recoil was slightly improved, but holy cow that concussion. No one wants to be near him when he fires his gun. I wouldn't have thought an AR could pop like that. Punishing, to say the least. As it was, we were shooting it off the covered porch of his camp, so the floor, ceiling, and back wall just compounded the feel of the blast. If you would have shot it indoors, it would probably be unbearable. What I'm saying is...be careful, OP...you might be trading one problem for another. I just stick with the A2 and it works fine for me. |
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I would have to agree with the hive on this one. Using a muzzle break indoors is unpleasant to say the least and that is with ear protection. Personally I never liked the idea of an AR for indoor home defense anyhow. There is a higher chance of overpenetration in which case it could go through several walls striking a family member or even exit out the side of your house and strike a neighbor depending on what your home is made of.
Personally I use .45ACP JHP pistol with a Viridian C5L weapon light/laser. Its easier to maneuver around corners, has enough range/stopping power to do the job at the <20ft hallway and the 100 lumen output of the light is plenty to light up a room without blinding yourself with splash off the walls. That said a few things to consider looking into: Adjustable Gas Block & 3oz carbine buffer. They will help reduce recoil some. That and go shoot more, practice makes perfect and I would be surprised if the muzzle rise on an AR shooting .223/5.56 is so bad that you cant do a double tap at a "Silhouette Shaped Target" across the living room. |
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