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Posted: 11/17/2023 9:05:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harv24: Made it to the range today https://i.imgur.com/BGP2uiO.jpg 25 yd zero https://i.imgur.com/MTMnKwD.jpg 100 yds of Bench https://i.imgur.com/cVYcoZn.jpg 7 yd head shot standing https://i.imgur.com/4ZOAFYG.jpg 25 yd Standing I didn't think I was going to like the Aimpoint on the carry handle, but strangely, I do. And the Offset is not much different then I normally hold too. I wonder what the impact offset at 100yds would be if you did a 50yd zero like I did. I’ve only had my PRO wearing BD a hood out once to zero at 50yds, but haven’t stretched it out since. |
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Posted: 11/17/2023 11:08:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: I wonder what the impact offset at 100yds would be if you did a 50yd zero like I did. I’ve only had my PRO wearing BD a hood out once to zero at 50yds, but haven’t stretched it out since. Yea, I'm going to re zero at 50yds since that is my preferred zero. |
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Posted: 12/6/2023 8:46:40 PM EDT
[#3]
Just put this one together. It sits on an SBR’d lower. just need a light and a rattle can job.
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Posted: 12/8/2023 9:39:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RO73: Just put this one together. It sits on an SBR’d lower. just need a light and a rattle can job. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/379800/IMG_0643_jpeg-3051650.JPG Nice. I really need to finish mine. |
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Posted: 12/21/2023 10:38:29 PM EDT
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This is where I finally landed with my clone-ish BD build. The lower will probably be used with a 733 build.
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IN, USA
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Posted: 12/21/2023 11:07:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: alternativebroccoli]
[#6]
Originally Posted By 55Kingpin: Anybody have recommendations on getting zero'd? I ran out of elevation adjustment and still not on.... I looked at your picture, rotate your optic 90 degrees so your windage is your elevation; it is on wrong I think. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 12/21/2023 11:34:13 PM EDT
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It’s definitely on wrong.. The AIMPOINT logo should be on the left side and the control/power knob should be on the upper right.. if that makes sense haha
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Posted: 12/22/2023 12:44:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alternativebroccoli: I looked at your picture, rotate your optic 90 degrees so your windage is your elevation; it is on wrong I think. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alternativebroccoli: I looked at your picture, rotate your optic 90 degrees so your windage is your elevation; it is on wrong I think. Wow! I'm an idiot. I guess being left-handed I naturally mounted it that way. Haven't owned/mounted a Comp style Aimpoint in a while so didn't even catch that. That definitely explains why corrections were not correlating to paper. I'll be honest, I went out in a rush that day and didn't have much daylight to mess with the setup. I was took jacked about getting it together and the paint being dry enough to shoot it! haha.  Originally Posted By SSOUNN: It’s definitely on wrong.. The AIMPOINT logo should be on the left side and the control/power knob should be on the upper right.. if that makes sense haha See above, thank you for confirming as well. I'm going to go sit in timeout now....lesson learned,  
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Posted: 12/27/2023 2:26:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 55Kingpin]
[#9]
Got her fixed! Zero'd in and ringing steel with ease now. Thanks gents, still stupefied I didn't catch that....
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Posted: 12/27/2023 2:30:46 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: We’ll be coming out with a complete upper once the FH’s come in. Production FH’s will be parkerized and also available separately.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/BD_2-2923708.jpg @mike_nds Any idea when the FH's will be available separately? |
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Posted: 12/27/2023 4:48:07 PM EDT
[#11]
The FH's will be up on the website inside a week.
The uppers are live now. https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-m16a2-tia-10-complete-pistol-upper.html 
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Posted: 12/27/2023 4:53:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: The FH's will be up on the website inside a week. The uppers are live now. https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-m16a2-tia-10-complete-pistol-upper.html https://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/0423dea8e9791990cba1722182d60508/7/a/7a4a3237_1.jpg “TIA muzzle device”
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ND, USA
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Posted: 12/27/2023 5:11:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: The FH's will be up on the website inside a week. The uppers are live now. https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-m16a2-tia-10-complete-pistol-upper.html https://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/0423dea8e9791990cba1722182d60508/7/a/7a4a3237_1.jpg I like. |
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Posted: 12/27/2023 10:02:00 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: The FH's will be up on the website inside a week. The uppers are live now. https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-m16a2-tia-10-complete-pistol-upper.html https://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/0423dea8e9791990cba1722182d60508/7/a/7a4a3237_1.jpg Thank you! That is awesome, perfect timing. |
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Posted: 1/14/2024 3:22:04 AM EDT
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 I’ve been working on getting this as close to screen accurate as possible and still need to find a few parts. As it is now I used a - PSA 10.5” barrel assembly with 7 hole CAR hand guards - unknown make A2 upper -Retro Rifles longer 607 style moderator - Surefire 6P body with 660 head and pressure switch in the original ring, M14 base and cheap Chinese barrel clamp - U.S. Tactical Systems Weaver mount - Aimpoint Comp M2 in Comp M ring -Brownells A1 lower with 2 pos receiver extension and Brownells N1 stock(borrowed from my XM177E2 unit I can get another one and SBR it also) -replica web sling fashioned as close to movie accurate as possible. I would really like to replace the Comp M2 with a Comp M if I can ever find one. I also want to eventually get an ARMS weaver mount, 660 body and Bushmaster commercial size CAR stock. I have an extra set of A2 handguards that I plan to cut down also. I might just pick up a cheap Anderson lower and SBR it and call it good though. |
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Posted: 1/14/2024 5:56:42 PM EDT
[#16]
Very nice build.
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Posted: 1/14/2024 9:21:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stinkypol: Very nice build. I’ll second the motion Now paint it @eyekahn |
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Posted: 1/14/2024 9:32:48 PM EDT
[#18]
Thank you, it’s taking me a couple years to build getting parts here and there. I’m itching to paint it, I’ve been holding off until I can find a Comp M. I am running out of patients and will probably just call it good enough though.
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Posted: 1/15/2024 11:43:00 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: The FH's will be up on the website inside a week. The uppers are live now. https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-m16a2-tia-10-complete-pistol-upper.html https://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/0423dea8e9791990cba1722182d60508/7/a/7a4a3237_1.jpg Any chance you could offer this at 10.3"? I'm pretty sure the movie build is closer to that length, maybe a hair shorter. 10" looks too short to my eyes. 
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Posted: 1/16/2024 7:51:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _LandCruiser_: Any chance you could offer this at 10.3"? I'm pretty sure the movie build is closer to that length, maybe a hair shorter. 10" looks too short to my eyes. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/274532/1000000514-3096248.png Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _LandCruiser_: Originally Posted By mike_nds: The FH's will be up on the website inside a week. The uppers are live now. https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-m16a2-tia-10-complete-pistol-upper.html https://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/0423dea8e9791990cba1722182d60508/7/a/7a4a3237_1.jpg Any chance you could offer this at 10.3"? I'm pretty sure the movie build is closer to that length, maybe a hair shorter. 10" looks too short to my eyes. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/274532/1000000514-3096248.png If you have an A2 handguard we can probably extrapolate the exact length. Looks like there are 8 holes of A2 HG showing on the prop gun. Can't realy blame PSA/H&R for going with10.3" on the barrel and 7 hole CAR HGs. Making custom everything would drive up the cost |
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Posted: 1/16/2024 12:55:57 PM EDT
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I have a set of A2 handguards that I was planning on cutting down for my build. I’ll try to get a measurement for everyone later today.
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Posted: 1/17/2024 1:19:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: _LandCruiser_]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: If you have an A2 handguard we can probably extrapolate the exact length. Looks like there are 8 holes of A2 HG showing on the prop gun. Can't realy blame PSA/H&R for going with10.3" on the barrel and 7 hole CAR HGs. Making custom everything would drive up the cost Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: If you have an A2 handguard we can probably extrapolate the exact length. Looks like there are 8 holes of A2 HG showing on the prop gun. Can't realy blame PSA/H&R for going with10.3" on the barrel and 7 hole CAR HGs. Making custom everything would drive up the cost I don't blame them either due to conflicting information and specs from various builds, except as a point of clarification they went with 10" instead of 10.3". There are 15 holes in an A2 handguard. Measuring indexed from the front and counting back 8 holes puts it approximately halfway. An A2 handguard is 12 inches long, meaning the modified A2 for the BD Carbine is approximately 6 inches. Cobbled together with the rear parts adds a bit of length to what looks like 6-1/2" to 6-9/16", or almost exactly carbine length. If the BD Carbine uses an approximate carbine length handguard, and there's enough barrel to stick out past the front sight block, that should mean that the true length of the barrel is approximately 10.2 to 10.3 inches. 10.5 inches looks too long. From the Recoil article: To produce the prop, the M16’s 20-inch barrel was cut to approximately 10 inches and the front sight post was moved back. A commercial two-position buffer tube and stock were also added. A 5-inch section of the center of the M16A2 handguard was removed to construct improvised carbine handguards. As a result, the handguards have eight holes (instead of the six- or seven-hole handguards found on production 723 and 727 carbines). This rifle, and many other of Atherton’s CAR-15s, retained the triangular M16A2 handguard cap instead of the circular handguard cap found on Colt-produced carbines. Again, looking at how much barrel sticks past the FSB, I conclude the barrel is most likely not exactly 10 inches, but somewhere around 10.2 to 10.3 inches.   CQBR 10.3 barrel:  What's slightly perplexing is that the portion of the barrel that sticks past the FSB looks like a .750" diameter journal instead of .625", but the angle and position of the 660 and mount would only be achieved with a smaller diameter journal, unless they messed with the mount somehow. The rifle purported to be the BD carbine (lowest photo) repurposed for The Green Zone shows a somewhat thicker barrel journal under the FSB as well. Could be tape or some sort of sleeve concealing the thinner profile.  
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Posted: 1/17/2024 3:10:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: reccerecon]
[#23]
I agree with the barrel being 10.3, maybe even a hair longer. I’m also fairly certain the same rifles were used in World War Z, there are some clear side views of the barrel also. The .750 barrels are definitely too thick to work with real Surefire clamps and it honestly bugs me how mine looks next to the moderator. You did an amazing build by the way, I’m hoping to get mine as accurate as yours if I can ever find the correct parts and have the extra money for them. How did you make your sling? I probably paused the movie a hundred times trying to get a good look at the sling they used.
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Posted: 1/17/2024 3:54:08 AM EDT
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I went with the 10” barrel because it was primarily made for the XM177 and XM177E1 uppers.
The TIA upper was a secondary consideration. And I used the cheaper 7 hole handguards because most people would paint them. |
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Posted: 1/17/2024 2:28:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _LandCruiser_: I don't blame them either due to conflicting information and specs from various builds, except as a point of clarification they went with 10" instead of 10.3". There are 15 holes in an A2 handguard. Measuring indexed from the front and counting back 8 holes puts it approximately halfway. An A2 handguard is 12 inches long, meaning the modified A2 for the BD Carbine is approximately 6 inches. Cobbled together with the rear parts adds a bit of length to what looks like 6-1/2" to 6-9/16", or almost exactly carbine length. If the BD Carbine uses an approximate carbine length handguard, and there's enough barrel to stick out past the front sight block, that should mean that the true length of the barrel is approximately 10.2 to 10.3 inches. 10.5 inches looks too long. From the Recoil article: Again, looking at how much barrel sticks past the FSB, I conclude the barrel is most likely not exactly 10 inches, but somewhere around 10.2 to 10.3 inches. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/274532/Archer-reloading-ezgif_com-webp-to-jpg-c-3097351.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/274532/7a4a3237-3097345.jpg CQBR 10.3 barrel: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/274532/colt-barrels-colt-10-3-mk18-barrel-crane-3097376.jpg What's slightly perplexing is that the portion of the barrel that sticks past the FSB looks like a .750" diameter journal instead of .625", but the angle and position of the 660 and mount would only be achieved with a smaller diameter journal, unless they messed with the mount somehow. The rifle purported to be the BD carbine (lowest photo) repurposed for The Green Zone shows a somewhat thicker barrel journal under the FSB as well. Could be tape or some sort of sleeve concealing the thinner profile. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/274532/6734123_JPG-3097356.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/274532/fzael74g0q7a1-3097370.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _LandCruiser_: Originally Posted By towerofpower94: If you have an A2 handguard we can probably extrapolate the exact length. Looks like there are 8 holes of A2 HG showing on the prop gun. Can't realy blame PSA/H&R for going with10.3" on the barrel and 7 hole CAR HGs. Making custom everything would drive up the cost I don't blame them either due to conflicting information and specs from various builds, except as a point of clarification they went with 10" instead of 10.3". There are 15 holes in an A2 handguard. Measuring indexed from the front and counting back 8 holes puts it approximately halfway. An A2 handguard is 12 inches long, meaning the modified A2 for the BD Carbine is approximately 6 inches. Cobbled together with the rear parts adds a bit of length to what looks like 6-1/2" to 6-9/16", or almost exactly carbine length. If the BD Carbine uses an approximate carbine length handguard, and there's enough barrel to stick out past the front sight block, that should mean that the true length of the barrel is approximately 10.2 to 10.3 inches. 10.5 inches looks too long. From the Recoil article: To produce the prop, the M16’s 20-inch barrel was cut to approximately 10 inches and the front sight post was moved back. A commercial two-position buffer tube and stock were also added. A 5-inch section of the center of the M16A2 handguard was removed to construct improvised carbine handguards. As a result, the handguards have eight holes (instead of the six- or seven-hole handguards found on production 723 and 727 carbines). This rifle, and many other of Atherton’s CAR-15s, retained the triangular M16A2 handguard cap instead of the circular handguard cap found on Colt-produced carbines. Again, looking at how much barrel sticks past the FSB, I conclude the barrel is most likely not exactly 10 inches, but somewhere around 10.2 to 10.3 inches. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/274532/Archer-reloading-ezgif_com-webp-to-jpg-c-3097351.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/274532/7a4a3237-3097345.jpg CQBR 10.3 barrel: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/274532/colt-barrels-colt-10-3-mk18-barrel-crane-3097376.jpg What's slightly perplexing is that the portion of the barrel that sticks past the FSB looks like a .750" diameter journal instead of .625", but the angle and position of the 660 and mount would only be achieved with a smaller diameter journal, unless they messed with the mount somehow. The rifle purported to be the BD carbine (lowest photo) repurposed for The Green Zone shows a somewhat thicker barrel journal under the FSB as well. Could be tape or some sort of sleeve concealing the thinner profile. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/274532/6734123_JPG-3097356.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/274532/fzael74g0q7a1-3097370.jpg Mea cupla. I missed the 10" barrel part. Nice sleuthing on the handguards |
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Posted: 1/17/2024 4:46:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 98Zixxer]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: If you have an A2 handguard we can probably extrapolate the exact length. Looks like there are 8 holes of A2 HG showing on the prop gun. Can't realy blame PSA/H&R for going with10.3" on the barrel and 7 hole CAR HGs. Making custom everything would drive up the cost Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: If you have an A2 handguard we can probably extrapolate the exact length. Looks like there are 8 holes of A2 HG showing on the prop gun. Can't realy blame PSA/H&R for going with10.3" on the barrel and 7 hole CAR HGs. Making custom everything would drive up the cost When I cut my A2 down, I cut just after the 8th hole, and trimmed tiny bits off until it fit. I didn't measure it after, because I was so happy that I got it to fit up lengthwise. I did have to shave the back end ID as well as the OD a bit of the handguard so the two ends at the delta ring met up. It took a bit to get them to where I wanted them, but they eventually got there.  Originally Posted By _LandCruiser_: I don't blame them either due to conflicting information and specs from various builds, except as a point of clarification they went with 10" instead of 10.3". There are 15 holes in an A2 handguard. Measuring indexed from the front and counting back 8 holes puts it approximately halfway. An A2 handguard is 12 inches long, meaning the modified A2 for the BD Carbine is approximately 6 inches. Cobbled together with the rear parts adds a bit of length to what looks like 6-1/2" to 6-9/16", or almost exactly carbine length. If the BD Carbine uses an approximate carbine length handguard, and there's enough barrel to stick out past the front sight block, that should mean that the true length of the barrel is approximately 10.2 to 10.3 inches. 10.5 inches looks too long. From the Recoil article: Again, looking at how much barrel sticks past the FSB, I conclude the barrel is most likely not exactly 10 inches, but somewhere around 10.2 to 10.3 inches. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/274532/Archer-reloading-ezgif_com-webp-to-jpg-c-3097351.jpg From whatI read, they just chopped a rifle length barrel down, slide the FSB back, and pieced the handguard together. It to me looked closer to a 10.5" barrel than anything, so I went with that over a 10.3" https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/274532/7a4a3237-3097345.jpg CQBR 10.3 barrel: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/274532/colt-barrels-colt-10-3-mk18-barrel-crane-3097376.jpg What's slightly perplexing is that the portion of the barrel that sticks past the FSB looks like a .750" diameter journal instead of .625", but the angle and position of the 660 and mount would only be achieved with a smaller diameter journal, unless they messed with the mount somehow. The rifle purported to be the BD carbine (lowest photo) repurposed for The Green Zone shows a somewhat thicker barrel journal under the FSB as well. Could be tape or some sort of sleeve concealing the thinner profile. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/274532/6734123_JPG-3097356.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/274532/fzael74g0q7a1-3097370.jpg |
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Posted: 1/17/2024 7:53:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: _LandCruiser_]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By reccerecon: I agree with the barrel being 10.3, maybe even a hair longer. I’m also fairly certain the same rifles were used in World War Z, there are some clear side views of the barrel also. The .750 barrels are definitely too thick to work with real Surefire clamps and it honestly bugs me how mine looks next to the moderator. You did an amazing build by the way, I’m hoping to get mine as accurate as yours if I can ever find the correct parts and have the extra money for them. How did you make your sling? I probably paused the movie a hundred times trying to get a good look at the sling they used. Not my clone, but it's a nice example. 98Zixxer, did you make that clone?? I see cloning the BD CAR-15 as having two avenues. One, you go autistic and clone the movie gun exactly, down to trimming the A2 handguard and keeping the M16A2 triangle front retainer. That way, you have a 1:1 example of Leo's gun and get to understand how they made the carbine for the silver screen. The issue I have with that approach is that the chances of a professional organization issuing a weapon cobbled together like that is extremely low, making inferences from how well they were organized and supplied in the film. Their supply chain would find a way to get transitional XM/CAR-15s. Therefore, a more practical clone of the BD carbine is to acknowledge that a trimmed and glued A2 handguard was for movie screen purposes, as we know they used the same handguards for BHD. For cost reasons, or just to capture the look and feel, a cut-up A2 handguard was sufficient for the screen. So in my opinion, a second category of clone is to capture the major details, but acknowledge the practicality and availability of real XM/CAR parts, like a "Commando" CAR round front retainer instead of the triangle, and to use real CAR skinny handguards. The replacement of the ARMS carry handle mount seems appropriate too instead of the B-Square mount used in the film, although preferably the Weaver version instead of the newer Picatinny, for the same reasons, as ARMS parts generally regarded as professional-grade parts. A balance can also be struck between the two. I really wish CAR handguards came with the ability to interface with a triangle retainer as that is an iconic detail of the film, but I would prefer real CAR handguards for practicality and minimizing points of failure. |
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Posted: 1/17/2024 8:00:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _LandCruiser_: Not my clone, but it's a nice example. 98Zixxer, did you make that clone?? I see cloning the BD CAR-15 as having two avenues. One, you go autistic and clone the movie gun exactly, down to trimming the A2 handguard and keeping the M16A2 triangle front retainer. That way, you have a 1:1 example of Leo's gun and get to understand how they made the carbine for the screen. The issue I have with that approach is that the chances of a professional organization issuing a weapon cobbled together like that is extremely low. The mercenaries and that supply chain would find a way to get transitional XM/CAR-15s. Therefore, a more practical clone of the BD carbine is to acknowledge that a trimmed and glued A2 handguard was for movie screen purposes, as we know they used the same handguards for BHD. For cost purposes, or just to capture the look and feel, a cut-up A2 handguard was sufficient for the screen. So in my opinion, a second category of clone is to capture the major details, but acknowledge the practicality and availability of real XM/CAR parts, like a "Commando" CAR round front retainer instead of the triangle, and to use real CAR skinny handguards. The replacement of the ARMS carry handle mount seems appropriate too instead of the B-Square mount used in the film, although preferably the Weaver version instead of the newer Picatinny, for the same reasons of ARMS parts generally regarded as professional-grade parts. A balance can also be struck between the two. I really wish CAR handguards came with the ability to interface with a triangle retainer as that is an iconic detail of the film, but I would prefer real CAR handguards for practicality. Yeah, I posted a few pics of mine on page 6 of the thread. I tried to go as 100% Rain Man as I could on it, because it was going to eat away at me if I didn’t get it as close as I could with what I could get my hands on |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 10:26:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _LandCruiser_: Not my clone, but it's a nice example. 98Zixxer, did you make that clone?? I see cloning the BD CAR-15 as having two avenues. One, you go autistic and clone the movie gun exactly, down to trimming the A2 handguard and keeping the M16A2 triangle front retainer. That way, you have a 1:1 example of Leo's gun and get to understand how they made the carbine for the silver screen. The issue I have with that approach is that the chances of a professional organization issuing a weapon cobbled together like that is extremely low, making inferences from how well they were organized and supplied in the film. The mercenaries and that supply chain would find a way to get transitional XM/CAR-15s. Therefore, a more practical clone of the BD carbine is to acknowledge that a trimmed and glued A2 handguard was for movie screen purposes, as we know they used the same handguards for BHD. For cost purposes, or just to capture the look and feel, a cut-up A2 handguard was sufficient for the screen. So in my opinion, a second category of clone is to capture the major details, but acknowledge the practicality and availability of real XM/CAR parts, like a "Commando" CAR round front retainer instead of the triangle, and to use real CAR skinny handguards. The replacement of the ARMS carry handle mount seems appropriate too instead of the B-Square mount used in the film, although preferably the Weaver version instead of the newer Picatinny, for the same reasons of ARMS parts generally regarded as professional-grade parts. A balance can also be struck between the two. I really wish CAR handguards came with the ability to interface with a triangle retainer as that is an iconic detail of the film, but I would prefer real CAR handguards for practicality and minimizing points of failure. I went with the second, going for a "what would it have actually looked like based on parts available at that time" example. Still need to decide if I put the longer FH on or leave the A2 FH so I can use my Griffin A2 to Bravo/HUB interface with a can. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 12:28:31 AM EDT
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If you run an A2 and can it could double as a BHD/Gordy clone.
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Posted: 2/26/2024 11:21:43 AM EDT
[#31]
bump
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Posted: 3/7/2024 10:48:49 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: The FH's will be up on the website inside a week. The uppers are live now. https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-m16a2-tia-10-complete-pistol-upper.html https://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/0423dea8e9791990cba1722182d60508/7/a/7a4a3237_1.jpg Do you have a link to the TIA flash hider on the website, I've spent an hour looking for it, and can't find it. |
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Posted: 3/7/2024 1:40:56 PM EDT
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Sorry, we dropped the ball.
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Posted: 3/11/2024 11:44:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tortilla-flats]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tortilla-flats: This is where I finally landed with my clone-ish BD build. The lower will probably be used with a 733 build. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/15341/20231221_153235-3066906.jpg Well, I sold off this upper and will sell my H&R 733 upper for the H&R TIA upper. It will marry up well with my H&R M16A1 lower; I'll add a Colt A2 PG to it. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 2:33:34 AM EDT
[#35]
So its been a few years since this build started to get popular -- and now with the TIA uppers available, its had a bit of a resurgence. I'm curious - is there an alternative to buying the Chinese Amazon barrel clamp / light mount and dremeling it down to fit inside the FSB yet? Hoping to find something a bit more OEM that will result in more surface around the existing screw holes - that doesn't cost 10x more than it should due to clone popularity.
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Posted: 3/19/2024 9:35:31 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: Sorry, we dropped the ball. I'm working to get them up this week. Any word on the TIA flash hiders? It’s the last thing I need before I paint it. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 5:24:42 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By openb: Any word on the TIA flash hiders? It’s the last thing I need before I paint it. They are in stock on the site right now |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 6:47:39 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By --FLEET--: They are in stock on the site right now Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By --FLEET--: Originally Posted By openb: Any word on the TIA flash hiders? It’s the last thing I need before I paint it. They are in stock on the site right now Link? |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 7:55:27 PM EDT
[#39]
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Posted: 3/20/2024 8:05:50 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By --FLEET--: They are in stock on the site right now Sweet, now I can get one and put my 607 style moderator up on the EE! |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 8:36:48 PM EDT
[#41]
Ordered, thanks.
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ID, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:25:49 AM EDT
[#42]
I’m thinking about picking up a PSA M16A2 stamped lower for mine. Does anyone still do A1 lower profiling? I seem to remember a member here doing it years ago. I’m not brave enough to try it on my own. I’m having a serious tism over this detail. I finally found an Aimpoint Comp M for mine, now I just need an actual 660 and Bushmaster stock. I’m going to cut down my A2 handguards hopefully this week sometime. I picked up a Model 1 CAR stock as it has the same profile as the aluminum stocks to use in the meantime.
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:52:00 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By reccerecon: I’m thinking about picking up a PSA M16A2 stamped lower for mine. Does anyone still do A1 lower profiling? I seem to remember a member here doing it years ago. I’m not brave enough to try it on my own. I’m having a serious tism over this detail. I finally found an Aimpoint Comp M for mine, now I just need an actual 660 and Bushmaster stock. I’m going to cut down my A2 handguards hopefully this week sometime. I picked up a Model 1 CAR stock as it has the same profile as the aluminum stocks to use in the meantime. what's wrong with the PSA M16A1 lower? |
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ID, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 2:24:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: reccerecon]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By x248716x: what's wrong with the PSA M16A1 lower? I believe the movie gun has a M16A2 mark A1 profile lower. I currently have a Brownells A1 lower that I borrowed from my XM177E2. I’ve gone back and forth on the lower and figure I might as well go all out on the details. Unless I’m mistaken on the Guatemalan M16A2 only having A1 stamped lowers. I swear I’ve seen a close up of them having A2 though. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 2:46:39 AM EDT
[#45]
I found the close up that I was thinking of. It’s from an article about the Black Hawk Down prop guns.
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Posted: 3/27/2024 9:47:42 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By reccerecon: I believe the movie gun has a M16A2 mark A1 profile lower. I currently have a Brownells A1 lower that I borrowed from my XM177E2. I've gone back and forth on the lower and figure I might as well go all out on the details. Unless I'm mistaken on the Guatemalan M16A2 only having A1 stamped lowers. I swear I've seen a close up of them having A2 though. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By reccerecon: Originally Posted By x248716x: what's wrong with the PSA M16A1 lower? I believe the movie gun has a M16A2 mark A1 profile lower. I currently have a Brownells A1 lower that I borrowed from my XM177E2. I've gone back and forth on the lower and figure I might as well go all out on the details. Unless I'm mistaken on the Guatemalan M16A2 only having A1 stamped lowers. I swear I've seen a close up of them having A2 though.
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Posted: 3/27/2024 11:19:53 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tortilla-flats: I just went with the M16A1 lower with the A2 PG. That’s probably the way I’ll end up going too. I figured if I’m going to buy another lower and sbr it I might as well make it as close as possible. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 3:23:01 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-tia-flash-hider-black.html Forgive my ignorance, what’s the necessary barrel length to get the upper to 16”? |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 4:55:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: towerofpower94]
[#49]
I just got hit up about a backorder from MSP. I don’t need it anymore, but they apparently have some ARMS carry handle pic mounts in stock.
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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:16:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CapnMike]
[#50]
Originally Posted By reccerecon: That's probably the way I'll end up going too. I figured if I'm going to buy another lower and sbr it I might as well make it as close as possible. If you want M16A2 rollmarks on an A1 lower, these guys make an A1 80% you could use. https://www.cryostructure.com/product/m16a1-80-percent/ |
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