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Link Posted: 5/20/2023 7:12:42 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/20/2023 7:25:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


Very nice. What barrel/collar did you go with?
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


Very nice. What barrel/collar did you go with?

JSE surplus barrel. Collar from Ron
ADCO did the work

Originally Posted By Subpar:

Hell yeah, dude!  Looks great!

Thanks, I appreciate that
Excited for a new lower, needed another stamped lower anyways
Link Posted: 5/20/2023 10:04:55 PM EDT
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Welcome to the club!
Link Posted: 5/21/2023 1:52:01 PM EDT
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Fixed my hasty sling.. the way it should have been. 6520 looking sexy as ever. Wish the barrel wasnt too small diameter for the collar.

@Subpar is this green similar to the green your M4 came as?



I think it'd need a tad more brown. Just hard to tell from photos.
Link Posted: 5/21/2023 6:51:32 PM EDT
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Yeah, add some more brown.

It’s tough to describe the color.  It’s got green hues, but it’s more of a gray/brown.  Kind of shiny too.  Maybe like a satan finish paint?

I looked at the gunkote colors.  This looks pretty close on my phone screen:



@k31user do you recall which Gunkote you used for the M4 cans?
Link Posted: 5/21/2023 9:28:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Subpar:
Yeah, add some more brown.

It’s tough to describe the color.  It’s got green hues, but it’s more of a gray/brown.  Kind of shiny too.  Maybe like a satan finish paint?

I looked at the gunkote colors.  This looks pretty close on my phone screen:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/7CF49DC9-5EC2-40DF-BB11-4B2FC18857C8-2824430.jpg

@k31user do you recall which Gunkote you used for the M4 cans?
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I was looking at that exact batch and considered ordering a sample.

Link Posted: 5/22/2023 6:49:57 AM EDT
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Love seeing the caps lol. It's such a small detail but once done makes it look so right.  Now, go choot it! My Gordy build was a favorite of mine. Need to do another one.
Link Posted: 5/22/2023 9:58:38 AM EDT
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I really dig the XM16E1 lower!
Link Posted: 5/24/2023 2:38:09 PM EDT
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I really dig the XM16E1 lower!
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I appreciate that
My new M16A2 lower shipped today
Link Posted: 5/24/2023 3:18:50 PM EDT
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I’m looking to build a BHD Gordon clone and have a few questions. I’ve read about 15-20 pages of this thread and havnt seen them answered yet. I apologize if this is a rehash of common questions. I don’t know much about this era.

Do I want black or grey finish on the rifle?

A1 or A2 profile lower receiver?

What’s the thoughts on the current H&R offerings? I was thinking of starting with a complete lower or just grab receiver set, and correcting what’s wrong, use higher quality OG parts where I can and need too.

Thanks in advance.
Link Posted: 5/24/2023 9:06:17 PM EDT
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Colt was historically a mixed bag. Useing what they had on hand if it met certain criteria for that order.
That being said A1 and A2 profile lowers are presumably both correct. Either should be marked big font M16A2, SAFE-SEMI-AUTO as they were cots rifles and not property marked. Grey would be correct for the time frame.

H&R just released the correct marked lower in a2 profile, its black though. Grey will be out soon.



Link Posted: 5/24/2023 10:18:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Brandonbeezy:
H&R just released the correct marked lower in a2 profile, its black though. Grey will be out soon.

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Won’t matter when you paint it like a fuckin gentleman
Link Posted: 5/25/2023 9:07:26 AM EDT
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Won’t matter when you paint it like a fuckin gentleman
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No way lol.

When i get the grey lower it'll be paired with a chalky black upper with an arms #51 if I can find one. It will be a grey vibe. Gotta find an older grey buffer tube
Link Posted: 5/25/2023 11:35:01 AM EDT
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Any recommendations on where to find a 14.5 barrel with a non-F marked FSB to cut down for a Gordy clone to use with an AEM5 and Ron's collar?
Link Posted: 5/25/2023 4:33:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cdholmes:
Any recommendations on where to find a 14.5 barrel with a non-F marked FSB to cut down for a Gordy clone to use with an AEM5 and Ron's collar?
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I bought from JSE surplus
Link Posted: 5/25/2023 4:47:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Brandonbeezy:

No way lol.

When i get the grey lower it'll be paired with a chalky black upper with an arms #51 if I can find one. It will be a grey vibe. Gotta find an older grey buffer tube
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:

Won’t matter when you paint it like a fuckin gentleman

No way lol.

When i get the grey lower it'll be paired with a chalky black upper with an arms #51 if I can find one. It will be a grey vibe. Gotta find an older grey buffer tube

The Geissele grey buffer tubes work pretty well and the Geissele logo is covered up once you put a stock on it.

Link Posted: 5/25/2023 5:05:41 PM EDT
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Finally got some lens covers for the aimpoint so I was able to get that painted today. This might be my favorite rifle. Still need a giessele and a flashlight setup. The homemade arms 16a mount turned out perfect.


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Link Posted: 5/25/2023 5:12:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cowbell:

The Geissele grey buffer tubes work pretty well and the Geissele logo is covered up once you put a stock on it.

https://i.imgur.com/zE8uwP3.jpg
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There’s a dude on arf that did a run of custom 7075 2 position buffer tubes anodized in gray.  I have one and it looks great.  

I ultimately replaced it with an LMT as I didn’t want to go through the trouble of having a 3rd position milled in (which is technically correct and what dudes did with the 2 position toobs).  It would be good for guys trying to nail details.

Looks like he still has them on gunbroker.



Link Posted: 5/25/2023 5:15:49 PM EDT
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KAK makes a retro grey 2 position tube made out of 7075. It’s on super sale at Primary Arms right now:

https://www.primaryarms.com/kak-mil-spec-2-position-buffer-retro
Link Posted: 5/26/2023 4:05:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote:
KAK makes a retro grey 2 position tube made out of 7075. It’s on super sale at Primary Arms right now:

https://www.primaryarms.com/kak-mil-spec-2-position-buffer-retro
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Well I don’t know if I can recommend that buffer tube now. I just got mine in and it is far more brown than grey. Might have to buy the other one from above.

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Link Posted: 5/26/2023 4:20:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote:

Well I don’t know if I can recommend that buffer tube now. I just got mine in and it is far more brown than grey. Might have to buy the other one from above.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/202402/4A366964-B50E-4396-83DF-61CDC5B83167_jpe-2829817.JPG
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Originally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote:
KAK makes a retro grey 2 position tube made out of 7075. It’s on super sale at Primary Arms right now:

https://www.primaryarms.com/kak-mil-spec-2-position-buffer-retro

Well I don’t know if I can recommend that buffer tube now. I just got mine in and it is far more brown than grey. Might have to buy the other one from above.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/202402/4A366964-B50E-4396-83DF-61CDC5B83167_jpe-2829817.JPG



Yep, me too.  
Bought one last month and it came in a dark brown bronze color.  
I’m gonna moly lube and bake it once I get a cheap toaster oven.
Link Posted: 5/26/2023 4:31:15 PM EDT
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Those with Ron's collar running an AEM5, are you able to run a lightweight barrel, or does the diameter in front of the FSP need to be in a certain range?
Link Posted: 5/26/2023 5:44:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cdholmes:
Those with Ron's collar running an AEM5, are you able to run a lightweight barrel, or does the diameter in front of the FSP need to be in a certain range?
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.570 id iirc are what his blanks start as. So measure, and call and confirm with him. He was willing to do my 6520 barrel if i were to chop it but it was just too small
Link Posted: 5/26/2023 5:45:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote:

Well I don’t know if I can recommend that buffer tube now. I just got mine in and it is far more brown than grey. Might have to buy the other one from above.

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Sone of a biscuit
Link Posted: 5/26/2023 5:51:24 PM EDT
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Here's some pics of that receiver extension for anyone interested.  I don't have any old gray stuff.  The GM receiver is a Russian Paint one, so it's probably as close as possible.  The other buffer tube installed is an LMT, the loose 1/2 painted one is the GB one.





Link Posted: 5/26/2023 6:15:58 PM EDT
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Should get to function test this with an H and H2 buffer and zero it on Sunday

I need a better sling than this nylon 1” Walmart crap

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Link Posted: 5/26/2023 7:19:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Should get to function test this with an H and H2 buffer and zero it on Sunday

I need a better sling than this nylon 1" Walmart crap

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Very nice! Don't know if I'm out of the norm, but the back pressure on my setup is very high. I have an H3 and a SprinCo Blue in mine and the buffer still bottoms out in the tube. Quite violent. I got a SprinCo Red in today in the hopes that I can lower the buffer weight a little.
Link Posted: 5/26/2023 8:35:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Should get to function test this with an H and H2 buffer and zero it on Sunday

I need a better sling than this nylon 1” Walmart crap

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Build a hasty sling. Start with an m60 padded and tie it into an alice pack adjuster
Link Posted: 5/27/2023 7:41:12 AM EDT
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Any places with a Memorial Day sale on with proper-ish lowers in stock? Currently just using a PSA Stealth lower with the bare minimum markings, but as I have the 733 and Gordon uppers for that lower I may as well whip up another one for the Gordon upper and use the PSA for the 733.

Plus, PA has G SSA FCGs for $150, so I need to justify a reason to pick one of those up, haha. Looks like PSA also has them for $150. PSA is getting money from me later

ETA: guessing this H&R A2 is the best available at the moment? https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-a2-stripped-lower-receiver-gray.html

Now where are the 2pos buffer tubes and CAR stocks…

Well, seems they’re right here, haha https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-retro-black-car-stock-assembly.html
Link Posted: 5/27/2023 9:56:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:
Any places with a Memorial Day sale on with proper-ish lowers in stock? Currently just using a PSA Stealth lower with the bare minimum markings, but as I have the 733 and Gordon uppers for that lower I may as well whip up another one for the Gordon upper and use the PSA for the 733.

Plus, PA has G SSA FCGs for $150, so I need to justify a reason to pick one of those up, haha. Looks like PSA also has them for $150. PSA is getting money from me later

ETA: guessing this H&R A2 is the best available at the moment? https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-a2-stripped-lower-receiver-gray.html

Now where are the 2pos buffer tubes and CAR stocks…

Well, seems they’re right here, haha https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-retro-black-car-stock-assembly.html
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not a memorial day sale and honestly, they dont change their prices on the H&R stuff anyhow.... but this would be a better lower when they drop the gray colors (soon per mike)

https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-blem-m16a2-special-forces-cots-marked-stripped-lower-black.html

Link Posted: 5/27/2023 11:45:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By seand1111:


not a memorial day sale and honestly, they dont change their prices on the H&R stuff anyhow.... but this would be a better lower when they drop the gray colors (soon per mike)

https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-blem-m16a2-special-forces-cots-marked-stripped-lower-black.html

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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:
Any places with a Memorial Day sale on with proper-ish lowers in stock? Currently just using a PSA Stealth lower with the bare minimum markings, but as I have the 733 and Gordon uppers for that lower I may as well whip up another one for the Gordon upper and use the PSA for the 733.

Plus, PA has G SSA FCGs for $150, so I need to justify a reason to pick one of those up, haha. Looks like PSA also has them for $150. PSA is getting money from me later

ETA: guessing this H&R A2 is the best available at the moment? https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-a2-stripped-lower-receiver-gray.html

Now where are the 2pos buffer tubes and CAR stocks…

Well, seems they’re right here, haha https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-retro-black-car-stock-assembly.html


not a memorial day sale and honestly, they dont change their prices on the H&R stuff anyhow.... but this would be a better lower when they drop the gray colors (soon per mike)

https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-blem-m16a2-special-forces-cots-marked-stripped-lower-black.html



How is that different than the one I linked? Also not worried about gray vs black as I’m now a rattle can artist
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


How is that different than the one I linked? Also not worried about gray vs black as I’m now a rattle can artist
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Its model markings are based on the Colt export/commercial model and its markings that exclude the gov property marking.
It’s also a auto marked lower, not burst.
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Its model markings are based on the Colt export/commercial model and its markings that exclude the gov property marking.
It’s also a auto marked lower, not burst.
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


How is that different than the one I linked? Also not worried about gray vs black as I’m now a rattle can artist


Its model markings are based on the Colt export/commercial model and its markings that exclude the gov property marking.
It’s also a auto marked lower, not burst.


Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for the additional details.
Link Posted: 5/27/2023 5:22:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Subpar:
Here's some pics of that receiver extension for anyone interested.  I don't have any old gray stuff.  The GM receiver is a Russian Paint one, so it's probably as close as possible.  The other buffer tube installed is an LMT, the loose 1/2 painted one is the GB one.

https://i.imgur.com/rsd2Gmp.jpg

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Thats exactly what im looking for!
Link Posted: 5/27/2023 5:54:06 PM EDT
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Im sharing this in this thread because this is the circle i feel would understand my mindset the most.

So went to pick up my Geissele lower from an LGS i haven't been to in a few years. Seen an old bushmaster carry handle carbine. Looking at it the kid behind the counter says.  "you like that old junk?" I go, "its the best junk".
He goes in the back, brings out a few old colts. Says we have tons of this old colt stuff, doesn't sell in the store so we only sell it on gunbroker.
Context: i bought my 6520 from this place a few years ago, it was tucked away behind the counter mostly out of sight.

One of the guns he brought out was built 118 units before my 6520.
Came from the same agency and was originally bought in the same order as my current one. Except she somewhat salty... boy i about shit. I told him dont clean the skuffs and leave the hand guard on it (mentioned they have THROWN AWAY DOZENS of these and replace them with magpuls or repro car handguards. I said even leave  the ronchy ass sling. Hes like man you're wild. And went back and found the most stuffed up colt mag he could and threw it in for free.



Plans.

Going to pull the handguard for my m4, chop the barrel and hope that Ron can get a collar  spun up for it fingers crossed on that one.

Gonna be a while though, im not supposed to be spending money right now because we're about to put money on building a home, so only put down 40%.

I cant wait. Hopefully the ATF gets their f1 wait times in order, i have like 6 lowers that need f1s now smh.

Question, were A2 uppers ever used prior to going flat top?
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Originally Posted By Brandonbeezy:
Im sharing this in this thread because this is the circle i feel would understand my mindset the most.

So went to pick up my Geissele lower from an LGS i haven't been to in a few years. Seen an old bushmaster carry handle carbine. Looking at it the kid behind the counter says.  "you like that old junk?" I go, "its the best junk".
He goes in the back, brings out a few old colts. Says we have tons of this old colt stuff, doesn't sell in the store so we only sell it on gunbroker.
Context: i bought my 6520 from this place a few years ago, it was tucked away behind the counter mostly out of sight.

One of the guns he brought out was a sister gun to my 6520.
Came from the same agency and was originally bought in the same order as my current one. Except she somewhat salty... boy i about shit. I told him dont clean the skuffs and leave the hand guard on it (mentioned they have THROWN AWAY DOZENS of these and replace them with magpuls or repro car handguards. I said even leave  the ronchy ass sling. Hes like man you're wild. And went back and found the most stuffed up colt mag he could and threw it in for free.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/517593/20230527_104336-2831013.jpg

Plans.

Going to pull the handguard for my m4, chop the barrel and hope that Ron can get a collar  spun up for it fingers crossed on that one.

Gonna be a while though, im not supposed to be spending money right now because we're about to put money on building a home, so only put down 40%.

I cant wait. Hopefully the ATF gets their f1 wait times in order, i have like 6 lowers that need f1s now smh.

Question, were A2 uppers ever used prior to going flat top?
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Damn. What’s the name of this place? Have a website or just GB? I’m not normally the type to buy a complete AR, but something like that could be a fun little piece of the past to shoot with.

ETA: how much did you pay for it total, if you don’t mind sharing.
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Damn. What’s the name of this place? Have a website or just GB? I’m not normally the type to buy a complete AR, but something like that could be a fun little piece of the past to shoot with.

ETA: how much did you pay for it total, if you don’t mind sharing.
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I forgot to ask about their gunbroker page, so i tried random searches, got nothing. Ill ask next week.
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Originally Posted By Brandonbeezy:


I forgot to ask about their gunbroker page, so i tried random searches, got nothing. Ill ask next week.
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Originally Posted By Brandonbeezy:
Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


Damn. What’s the name of this place? Have a website or just GB? I’m not normally the type to buy a complete AR, but something like that could be a fun little piece of the past to shoot with.

ETA: how much did you pay for it total, if you don’t mind sharing.


I forgot to ask about their gunbroker page, so i tried random searches, got nothing. Ill ask next week.


Thanks much.
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Thanks much.
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Theyre fun to shoot. Super lightweight, if you ride motorcycles, the best way to describe it is "flickable". Like going from a cruiser to a supermoto/dualsport.  current one has a little more recoil than my other colts of the same barrel length, i think that may be because they come with the half moon bcg. Eventually I'll swap them out. Probably with just AO Precision bolt carriers. Keep the colt bolt though.
Link Posted: 5/27/2023 8:59:08 PM EDT
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If you’re looking for old stuff like that on Gunbroker look up summitgunbroker.

This all came from them.
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Link Posted: 5/27/2023 10:13:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cowbell:
If you’re looking for old stuff like that on Gunbroker look up summitgunbroker.

This all came from them.
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That top delta ring has some purple to it, I'd like to get my hands on it. Lol
Link Posted: 5/28/2023 9:31:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cowbell:
If you're looking for old stuff like that on Gunbroker look up summitgunbroker.

This all came from them.
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They got sold a while ago, I sort of forgot about them. They still get in older/trade in stuff?
Link Posted: 5/28/2023 9:37:16 AM EDT
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They got sold a while ago, I sort of forgot about them. They still get in older/trade in stuff?
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Originally Posted By K1rodeoboater:
Originally Posted By Cowbell:
If you're looking for old stuff like that on Gunbroker look up summitgunbroker.

This all came from them.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/259822/7DF583B5-6007-4CEC-8CAA-F63793CCFCE7_jpe-2831356.JPG

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/259822/674B15AE-BEDC-4FA0-A000-9C9D67D94F0F_jpe-2831357.JPG
They got sold a while ago, I sort of forgot about them. They still get in older/trade in stuff?

A few. Not like they used to

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Link Posted: 5/28/2023 9:38:10 AM EDT
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Those would be a good way to get a colt lower, the 694x series are pretty cool with the monolithic upper
Link Posted: 5/28/2023 11:21:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Should get to function test this with an H and H2 buffer and zero it on Sunday

I need a better sling than this nylon 1” Walmart crap

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/184182/5DA35249-4312-49A5-BB62-CFB07BDC2D12_jpe-2829962.JPG
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Take a video, i wanna hear it!!!
Link Posted: 5/30/2023 3:58:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote:

Awesome thank you.

And for the hell of it I called MGW direct and they still have a bunch of carry handle mounts left. $15 plus shipping.
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Originally Posted By Cowbell:
Originally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote:
Does anyone have a good line on the correct Aimpoint or Leupold 30mm vertical split rings and an MGW carry handle mount?

Here toy go

Awesome thank you.

And for the hell of it I called MGW direct and they still have a bunch of carry handle mounts left. $15 plus shipping.

I just got off the phone with Michelle at MGW. The mounts are $25 + $8 USPS or $10 UPS ground.

She said there are about 35-40 left and once these were gone that was it.

I only got one but should probably have got two.

If y'all want one get it now.
Link Posted: 5/30/2023 7:31:22 PM EDT
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Nice deep bronze, they'll be cool on other builds.
Link Posted: 5/30/2023 7:56:20 PM EDT
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What is MGWs website/number?
Link Posted: 5/30/2023 9:31:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By aznanimekid:
What is MGWs website/number?
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http://www.mgwshifters.com/contact-mgw
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 10:41:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cowbell:

I just got off the phone with Michelle at MGW. The mounts are $25 + $8 USPS or $10 UPS ground.

She said there are about 35-40 left and once these were gone that was it.

I only got one but should probably have got two.

If y'all want one get it now.
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Thanks!  Grabbed 2.
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