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7/10/2014 7:05:13 PM EDT
Do all the piston systems work the same (redirecting gas forward)?  Comparing Rainier Arms Piston system to Adams Arms...?????






Looking at 10" - 14.5" barrel length, any recommendations, deals, do's and don't's.....I will be using it with a suppressor.












Thanks!

 
7/10/2014 8:19:40 PM EDT
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Pricey, but I would recommend LWRCi, POF or LMT.  If you don't have the means or don't want to spend that kind of money, Adams Arms would be my choice.  Rainier uses the Adams Arms piston system.
7/10/2014 8:21:38 PM EDT
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Pricey, but I would recommend LWRCi, POF or LMT.  If you don't have the means or don't want to spend that kind of money, Adams Arms would be my choice.  Rainier uses the Adams Arms piston system.
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I did not know that.....thanks for the info!
7/10/2014 8:34:14 PM EDT
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Pricey, but I would recommend LWRCi, POF or LMT.  If you don't have the means or don't want to spend that kind of money, Adams Arms would be my choice.  Rainier uses the Adams Arms piston system.
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I would add PWS into the mix of recommendations as well. The setup does fantastic suppressed and you can score an upper for pretty cheap, depending on where you look. I recently picked up a PWS MK112 (12.7 inch upper) for 1150 on gunbroker. Can't really go wrong with any of them these days, a lot of it boils down to preference of the setup and weight/distribution.
7/10/2014 9:58:41 PM EDT
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I would add PWS into the mix of recommendations as well. The setup does fantastic suppressed and you can score an upper for pretty cheap, depending on where you look. I recently picked up a PWS MK112 (12.7 inch upper) for 1150 on gunbroker. Can't really go wrong with any of them these days, a lot of it boils down to preference of the setup and weight/distribution.
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Pricey, but I would recommend LWRCi, POF or LMT.  If you don't have the means or don't want to spend that kind of money, Adams Arms would be my choice.  Rainier uses the Adams Arms piston system.


I would add PWS into the mix of recommendations as well. The setup does fantastic suppressed and you can score an upper for pretty cheap, depending on where you look. I recently picked up a PWS MK112 (12.7 inch upper) for 1150 on gunbroker. Can't really go wrong with any of them these days, a lot of it boils down to preference of the setup and weight/distribution.


I would agree.  I've owned a POF, CMMG, Adams Arms and LWRC.  Actually, ALL of 'em ran great.  Never owned a PWS, but I've read and heard great things about them.
7/11/2014 7:43:37 AM EDT
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I've owned many different systems.  The one that I haven't owned and very much intrigues me is the PWS.  I'd love to get my hands on one of those rifles.  I wouldn't own a POF if you gave it to me for free.  If you like that style of system, then look at a Hogan.  It's great system, but it's HEAVY.  The LWRC IC looks and feels great.  But, IMO, if your going to spend the money, go with the PWS.  If your looking to save a few bucks and still want something of excellent quality, get an Adams Arms.  Trust me though, buy a new one, don't gamble on a blemished rifle.....  Their stuff is pretty solid, I've run one very hard for quite some time without issues.
7/11/2014 9:01:58 AM EDT
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I hear ya......I saw some pictures that you posted....no way I am paying that amount on one



I am leaning toward Rainier Arms or Adams Arms upper in 14.5" length.....found them to be under $600, I am not in a hurry so if/when a better deal appear I will pick one up.  I really like PWS products but they are very pricey so I'll keep my eyes open for deals.....




Thanks for all the info
7/11/2014 11:00:04 AM EDT
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I've owned many different systems.  The one that I haven't owned and very much intrigues me is the PWS.  I'd love to get my hands on one of those rifles.  I wouldn't own a POF if you gave it to me for free.  If you like that style of system, then look at a Hogan.  It's great system, but it's HEAVY.  The LWRC IC looks and feels great.  But, IMO, if your going to spend the money, go with the PWS.  If your looking to save a few bucks and still want something of excellent quality, get an Adams Arms.  Trust me though, buy a new one, don't gamble on a blemished rifle.....  Their stuff is pretty solid, I've run one very hard for quite some time without issues.
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What state are you in? If you ever find yourself in the Seattle area of Washington, you can come have a hands on with my PWS.
7/11/2014 2:12:44 PM EDT
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I'll second PWS........damn good stuff.
If you're near St Louis..........let me know
7/11/2014 5:47:07 PM EDT
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I love my 7.5 AA pistol and wouldn't trade her for the world.  That being said I also love the idea of PWS and their long stroke piston system.  If you have seen their bolt and piston assembly it looks nearly identical to an AK.  Dang do those things look sweet/reliable/nearly unbreakable.  If I ever do another piston gun I have decided it will be a PWS.
7/11/2014 5:54:21 PM EDT
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I just pick up a used  PWS MK107 (Diablo)  upper for $ 850.00 and can't wait till it gets here !!!

Like the others have said Good Stuff !!!

Sharky
7/11/2014 7:33:45 PM EDT
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"I wouldn't own a POF if you gave it to me for free."

Please.
7/11/2014 7:55:04 PM EDT
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He may keep it for a couple days before he sells it.
Seriously though POF just looks ugly to me(the pictures I have seen that is), but I have always been more of a fan of function over form so if it works I would probably take one.
7/11/2014 11:08:30 PM EDT
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Yep............PWS!
7/11/2014 11:18:48 PM EDT
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I've owned many different systems. The one that I haven't owned and very much intrigues me is the PWS.  I'd love to get my hands on one of those rifles.  I wouldn't own a POF if you gave it to me for free.  If you like that style of system, then look at a Hogan.  It's great system, but it's HEAVY.  The LWRC IC looks and feels great.  But, IMO, if your going to spend the money, go with the PWS.  If your looking to save a few bucks and still want something of excellent quality, get an Adams Arms.  Trust me though, buy a new one, don't gamble on a blemished rifle.....  Their stuff is pretty solid, I've run one very hard for quite some time without issues.
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I'm confused.  You admit you have not owned a PWS but are intrigued, yet you recommend one over LWRC, etc?

Also, what is wrong with a blemished AA rifle?  Have you owned one that has given you problems?  


7/11/2014 11:28:38 PM EDT
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I'm confused.  You admit you have not owned a PWS but are intrigued, yet you recommend one over LWRC, etc?



Also, what is wrong with a blemished AA rifle?  Have you owned one that has given you problems?  





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I've owned many different systems. The one that I haven't owned and very much intrigues me is the PWS.  I'd love to get my hands on one of those rifles.  I wouldn't own a POF if you gave it to me for free.  If you like that style of system, then look at a Hogan.  It's great system, but it's HEAVY.  The LWRC IC looks and feels great.  But, IMO, if your going to spend the money, go with the PWS.  If your looking to save a few bucks and still want something of excellent quality, get an Adams Arms.  Trust me though, buy a new one, don't gamble on a blemished rifle.....  Their stuff is pretty solid, I've run one very hard for quite some time without issues.




I'm confused.  You admit you have not owned a PWS but are intrigued, yet you recommend one over LWRC, etc?



Also, what is wrong with a blemished AA rifle?  Have you owned one that has given you problems?  





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7/12/2014 7:23:18 AM EDT
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Here is a link to a video I did looking at the LWRC and PWS. You can see the uppers and compare the differences between these two. The Adams Arms is a good short stroke system that is well suited for a build it yourself upper.

http://youtu.be/tqiBVUJrrV0
7/12/2014 9:42:42 AM EDT
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Here is a link to a video I did looking at the LWRC and PWS. You can see the uppers and compare the differences between these two. The Adams Arms is a good short stroke system that is well suited for a build it yourself upper.



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Very good info.....thank you!
7/12/2014 1:43:40 PM EDT
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Here is a link to a video I did looking at the LWRC and PWS. You can see the uppers and compare the differences between these two. The Adams Arms is a good short stroke system that is well suited for a build it yourself upper.

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That was one of the better firearm comparisons that I've seen. Kudos sir, I enjoyed it.
7/12/2014 5:18:11 PM EDT
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Very nice comparison,.........
7/12/2014 5:44:33 PM EDT
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You can't go wrong with either. I say get both. A pws upper mated to an ambi IC lower is next on my list. I say from my own experience get an IC first but that's me. I thoroughly love my lwrc.
7/12/2014 6:14:06 PM EDT
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Of the piston guns, these two would be my only choice.

Would like to pick up a complete IC sometime this year.
7/12/2014 7:16:51 PM EDT
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I'm a pof guy
7/12/2014 11:37:20 PM EDT
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Me personally, HK, LWRC, & POF. Am not a long stroke piston fan like with PWS but thats just me.
7/13/2014 9:04:27 AM EDT
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POF is good, but H&K is better.



 

7/13/2014 1:39:06 PM EDT
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Me personally, HK, LWRC, & POF. Am not a long stroke piston fan like with PWS but thats just me.
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Not trying to start anything with you and maybe this is the wrong thread, but why don't you like the long stroke vs the short stroke?  Although my piston gun is a short stroke I was always under the impression that long stroke was indeed more robust and durable.
7/15/2014 6:18:29 AM EDT
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+1 for PWS. My diablo is fantastic and I look forward to replacing my 10.5 DI upper with a PWS variant.
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