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Posted: 6/6/2014 7:48:26 PM EDT
| It was pointed out to me that this was the wrong place to rant about the lack of SRP on TV today, and about the state of the movie industry in general, so I have removed it. I come here because you guys are my friends and GD sucks, frankly. I apologize. I've never heard of the guy who complained, but he has a valid point. Carry on. |
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Why the retro forum? Sorry, this is where I post, and I posted about D-day earlier here. Sorry. I was just curious... You have a valid point. I am just used to coming here and sharing things with my 'brothers'. Didn't mean to offend you in any way by posting in the wrong place. Bad day. |
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Spr= saving private.... You know the rest
Morg it's all good man we getcha! Do you have it on DVD? I'm sure you can probably find John Wayne strutting his stuff in the longest day somewhere this weekend! On and to make this retro erm.... What retro clones did Wayne use in green berets if any? Did they buy that? |
| Morg, only a "regular" here in retro would understand. The individual that strolls in here only occasionally might be, and obviously was, taken back by some of the odd posts that show up. Until one becomes a regular here it might seem odd, some of the topics. This forum is the best and the mods give us some leeway, and for that I am thankful. |
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Morg, thanks for posting it here, Bro! Anyway, I agree. The only D-Day thing I found was a 2 hour History channel "D-Day in HD" which really wasn't very good at all. Poor writing, lack of cohesion, and used the same film clips over, and over, and over, and over again.
I had expected to see Saving Private Ryan or Longest Day on multiple channels. Even the news had more coverage about a "rescued" deserter than the 70th celebration in Normandy. |
Sorry - my rant went on to bemoan the loss of video stores which were driven out of business by Redbox and streaming services, but now you have to BUY a movie to see it before it's 6 months old!  Why did I post here? Well, I posted about D-Day and I thought it would have been an appropriate day to show SRP, but no... They show it every other weekend it seems, with 'Story notes' which I hate. It seems the only thing I saw on D-day was on the History channel. No one hardly mentioned it. I found this kind of strange on it's 70th anniversary.  He had a valid comment - I probably should have posted in GD...but this is home. Sorry for the OT post guys.
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Morg when I saw SRP I just assumed you called it Saving Ryan's Privates like I do. 
I remember when it came to the theaters there was a story in the paper (local I think) about a D-Day vet being brought to tears at the landing scene. Interviewed after the movie and asked about reality vs. cinema he said it was the closest thing to reality that he had ever seen but the gore and carnage needed to be multiplied at least 10 fold! He bristled at the suggestion that he was a hero. He said the fellows that died on that beach were the real heroes. 
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Morg when I saw SRP I just assumed you called it Saving Ryan's Privates like I do.
SRP - That's what threw me. You are right, all day yesterday should have been a primo time slot for SPR, or uh, SRP. 
Love that flick. I don't do Redbox or Netflix much. I pay for cable dammit and that's how it should be... |
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SRP - That's what threw me. You are right, all day yesterday should have been a primo time slot for SPR, or uh, SRP.
Love that flick. I don't do Redbox or Netflix much. I pay for cable dammit and that's how it should be... Quoted:
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Morg when I saw SRP I just assumed you called it Saving Ryan's Privates like I do.
SRP - That's what threw me. You are right, all day yesterday should have been a primo time slot for SPR, or uh, SRP.
Love that flick. I don't do Redbox or Netflix much. I pay for cable dammit and that's how it should be... Yeah, I meant SPR.  Oops. I would have thought WWII movies all day would have been a no-brainer, but nada.
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Every year it get's worse. Fewer and fewer war movies.
I started collecting them on DVD but don't have a player at the moment. SRP and BoB are the shit. The Pacific was OK but could have used more production money and more episodes to make it better. It was the combination of two or three books covering different guys from different outfits so it wasn't as powerful as BoB or SPR for that very reason IMO. If Ambrose would have researched a Marine Battalion and told the story from the unit level it would have been the shit too! 
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The Pacific was OK but could have used more production money and more episodes to make it better. It was the combination of two or three books covering different guys from different outfits so it wasn't as powerful as BoB or SPR for that very reason IMO. With the Old Breed: At Peleliu and Okinawa by E.B. Sledge Helmet for My Pillow: From Parris Island to the Pacific by Robert Leckie Islands of the Damned: A Marine at War in the Pacific by R.V. Burgin I think its those three. Great reads all 3. |
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With the Old Breed: At Peleliu and Okinawa by E.B. Sledge Helmet for My Pillow: From Parris Island to the Pacific by Robert Leckie Islands of the Damned: A Marine at War in the Pacific by R.V. Burgin I think its those three. Great reads all 3. Quoted:
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The Pacific was OK but could have used more production money and more episodes to make it better. It was the combination of two or three books covering different guys from different outfits so it wasn't as powerful as BoB or SPR for that very reason IMO. With the Old Breed: At Peleliu and Okinawa by E.B. Sledge Helmet for My Pillow: From Parris Island to the Pacific by Robert Leckie Islands of the Damned: A Marine at War in the Pacific by R.V. Burgin I think its those three. Great reads all 3. Yeah Yankee. I heard all 3 were MUCH better "reads" than the series was a "watch".
Where did the John Basilone story line come from then? Or was that just a little bit of fact written into a whole bunch of drama? ETA This is my FAVORITE WWII movie of all time! SO unrealistic but I've seen it countless times! CRAP WHY WON'T You Tubs ever embed? |
| ......and when I saw SPR I was trying to think......hmmmm..........SPR.........that's Special Purpose Rifle, I think, lol. I've been visiting over in AR Discussions some, for the MK18 thread, and I know there is a thread for the SPR's too........so I'm thinking "why is Morg bemoaning the fact that there are no shows on SPR's, lol. Duhhhhhhhhhhhhh! |
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Yeah Yankee. I heard all 3 were MUCH better "reads" than the series was a "watch".
Where did the John Basilone story line come from then? Or was that just a little bit of fact written into a whole bunch of drama? ETA This is my FAVORITE WWII movie of all time! SO unrealistic but I've seen it countless times! CRAP WHY WON'T You Tubs ever embed? Quoted:
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The Pacific was OK but could have used more production money and more episodes to make it better. It was the combination of two or three books covering different guys from different outfits so it wasn't as powerful as BoB or SPR for that very reason IMO. With the Old Breed: At Peleliu and Okinawa by E.B. Sledge Helmet for My Pillow: From Parris Island to the Pacific by Robert Leckie Islands of the Damned: A Marine at War in the Pacific by R.V. Burgin I think its those three. Great reads all 3. Yeah Yankee. I heard all 3 were MUCH better "reads" than the series was a "watch".
Where did the John Basilone story line come from then? Or was that just a little bit of fact written into a whole bunch of drama? ETA This is my FAVORITE WWII movie of all time! SO unrealistic but I've seen it countless times! CRAP WHY WON'T You Tubs ever embed? Basilone is mentioned in some detail in one of the three books listed, I think by Leckie. I gave the books away to friends, good excuse to check out Red Blood Black Sand, a more recent book by a member of B/1/5. It has a lot more about Basilone. BATTLEGROUND - Great vintage flick, Cal30. |
| I used the three movies for classes, not for teaching fact, but for presenting a better picture of WW2 combat. Getting kids to read in school nowadays is impossible. Parents say you are mean and bullying their kids by actually expecting them to work. Administrators side with the parents ALWAYS! I started teaching high school History after I retired from my LEO career. Made me sick, and quit after 7 years. Got tired of being in trouble with administrators for expecting kids to actually do their work or pass. If too many kids are flunking, just lower the standards. Can't even take their cell phones when they talk on them in class. One of the History books we used had more about Haight Ashbury than the American Civil war. The few WW2 pictures they had had NO FIREARMS OF ANY KIND. It even airbrushed the carbines out of the Rosenthal photo of Marines raising the flag ion Iwo Jima. My dad (who fought on Iwo Jima) would roll over in his grave. What a load of crap. ... God help us 20 years from now. |
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Quoted: Sorry - my rant went on to bemoan the loss of video stores which were driven out of business by Redbox and streaming services, but now you have to BUY a movie to see it before it's 6 months old! Why did I post here? Well, I posted about D-Day and I thought it would have been an appropriate day to show SRP, but no... They show it every other weekend it seems, with 'Story notes' which I hate. It seems the only thing I saw on D-day was on the History channel. No one hardly mentioned it. I found this kind of strange on it's 70th anniversary. He had a valid comment - I probably should have posted in GD...but this is home. Sorry for the OT post guys.Morg, i too miss the video store. I LIKE streaming video BUT I had a nice BlockBuster right across the street and I could often go get some obscure thing that wouldn't be found on streaming.... now? It's just a vacant building. Blockbuster had IDIOTS AT THE HELM!!!! |
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Sorry - my rant went on to bemoan the loss of video stores which were driven out of business by Redbox and streaming services, but now you have to BUY a movie to see it before it's 6 months old! Why did I post here? Well, I posted about D-Day and I thought it would have been an appropriate day to show SRP, but no... They show it every other weekend it seems, with 'Story notes' which I hate. It seems the only thing I saw on D-day was on the History channel. No one hardly mentioned it. I found this kind of strange on it's 70th anniversary. He had a valid comment - I probably should have posted in GD...but this is home. Sorry for the OT post guys.I feel your pain Morg. I had to brake out my VHS of the Longest Day to watch something appropriate for the day. We are family here. Just click your heels together three times and say, "there's no place like home" GD is full of flying monkeys. |
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........so I'm thinking "why is Morg bemoaning the fact that there are no shows on SPR's, lol. Duhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
I had to read thread from the biginning. SPR is good. Love the sniper, Tom Hanks is good. Longest Day is an all time favorite. Band of Brothers (like retroland) and Midway do it for me too. For D-Day celebration I thought of a comment my mom's step brother made about jumping out of a landing craft on one of the beaches of Normandy. Don't remember which beach but he said to her " Edna, I can't understand or fail to understand why when rushing the beach from the landing craft, a german machine gunner killed the two GI's on my left and the two GI's on my right and not a single bullet hit me". She said he honestly believed a supreme power had intervened. He survied everything combat could throw at him from D-Day to Nazi surrender only to be killed by a spinning airplane propeller working for a civillian aircraft company in England in 1946 less than 1 year after WWII had ended. Go figure! I still have the wooden shoes he sent to my mom from Holland in 1944 as a gift. For OP, I'm sure those opposed to retroland comments that possibly aren't technical will get over it in time! If a post bothers someone, I'd say don't read or reply but most anything today is above my pay grade until they actually need the problem resolved. |
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I was confused as well, thought maybe the R was for Rifle and tried to figure out the other two letters. I dont have cable, it is a waste of money and Dammit RBRD is EXPENSIVE, so I have to save somewhere. I have The Longest Day, SPR and Band of Brothers among others in my video and used the D-Day anniversary to turn a coworker on to my cooy of Ken Burns' The War
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Yeah Yankee. I heard all 3 were MUCH better "reads" than the series was a "watch".
Where did the John Basilone story line come from then? Or was that just a little bit of fact written into a whole bunch of drama? ETA This is my FAVORITE WWII movie of all time! SO unrealistic but I've seen it countless times! CRAP WHY WON'T You Tubs ever embed? Quoted:
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The Pacific was OK but could have used more production money and more episodes to make it better. It was the combination of two or three books covering different guys from different outfits so it wasn't as powerful as BoB or SPR for that very reason IMO. With the Old Breed: At Peleliu and Okinawa by E.B. Sledge Helmet for My Pillow: From Parris Island to the Pacific by Robert Leckie Islands of the Damned: A Marine at War in the Pacific by R.V. Burgin I think its those three. Great reads all 3. Yeah Yankee. I heard all 3 were MUCH better "reads" than the series was a "watch".
Where did the John Basilone story line come from then? Or was that just a little bit of fact written into a whole bunch of drama? ETA This is my FAVORITE WWII movie of all time! SO unrealistic but I've seen it countless times! CRAP WHY WON'T You Tubs ever embed? The 3 books were all written by 1st Marine Division men, and the miniseries mainly followed that division because it was ideal for telling a "Big Story" of the USMC in the Pacific (Guadalcanal, Gloucester, Peleliu, Okinawa). Basilone's story was included because, of course, he'd been 1st MARDIV member on Guadalcanal, where he won his MoH. Later, he was transferred to the newly-formed 5th MARDIV with other veterans to help form it and he died with that division on Iwo Jima. The 1st MARDIV didn't go to Iwo Jima, so this was where the miniseries somewhat diverged from the miniseries' theme to follow his story. . |
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The turd burglars that are hellbent on making each consecutive generation as distant from their parents and grandparents have almost full control over what spews forth from the TV.
By paying them, you enable them and their causes. If you hand the wolf some meat, don't be upset when he follows you home to blow down the house made of straw. |
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