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3/26/2014 7:27:31 AM EDT
[#1]
Love that cutaway upper..

Fixed the link

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=401555614
3/26/2014 7:40:36 AM EDT
[#2]
The M231 seems pretty high in light of the recent thread about the one on Sturm with more parts and less money.
3/26/2014 7:02:30 PM EDT
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Man, I want to build a cutaway so bad
3/26/2014 7:06:58 PM EDT
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3/26/2014 7:26:06 PM EDT
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3/26/2014 7:34:30 PM EDT
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3/26/2014 7:52:28 PM EDT
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A few beers and I'm half tempted to try it. You have to admit
It would look cool hanging in a man cave or garage
3/27/2014 3:29:08 AM EDT
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How could the seller prove Colt made the cutaway? A gun plumber on Mdshooters.com had one for sale. But wouldn't sell it in MD as for the new gun laws . He made it at his smith school. All the cuts where in the same places. I would think if the upper was made by Colt it would have a teardrop FA.
3/27/2014 4:43:32 AM EDT
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He has a connection to an ex-Colt's executive who sells off stuff to him a little at a time.  That's why the rare ACR parts, etc.  So far as I can remember he's had 3 in 3 years.
All uppers.  First 2 were 11.5 Commando uppers.  The complete one had a teardrop.  This one on GB now is a 14.5.

I bought the unfinished  one below from him a couple years ago.  It was not painted.   It's all mint, unused barrel, upper etc.  All Colt proofs. The cuts are beyond perfect.
They match perfectly with other cutaways from that period.  The cuts varied in location over the years so an 80's cutaway may look different from a 70's one.

If he's faking them, then he's losing money because he's ruining perfectly good vintage parts.  I got a cutaway mag from him as well.


3/27/2014 8:13:07 AM EDT
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At $1,400 + for a cut away he's not losing money.
3/27/2014 9:43:54 AM EDT
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That's his asking price.  Nobody's buying at that price.   Last ones I saw went for 650 and 850 from other dealers.  Look at what he wants for regular uppers with barrels.
He's pretty proud of that of stuff. $$$
3/27/2014 10:05:08 AM EDT
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I don't blame him for pricing it on the high end.

The way anything collectable from Colt's attracts deep-pockets dilettantes, he's got a good chance to find a buyer eventually.

Somebody just paid about 5 or 6 times the going rate at an auction for a Colt's M1921 Thompson that was described as being connected to Bonnie and Clyde, despite the lack of any real provenance.  Somebody's great grandfather claimed he was given it by an unknown LEO after a raid on a Barrow Gang hideout. That all, no other proof linking it to B and C.
3/27/2014 10:28:23 AM EDT
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I don't blame him for pricing it on the high end.

The way anything collectable from Colt's attracts deep-pockets dilettantes, he's got a good chance to find a buyer eventually.

Somebody just paid about 5 or 6 times the going rate at an auction for a Colt's M1921 Thompson that was described as being connected to Bonnie and Clyde, despite the lack of any real provenance.  Somebody's great grandfather claimed he was given it by an unknown LEO after a raid on a Barrow Gang hideout. That all, no other proof linking it to B and C.
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the collectible stuff yes.  but if you look at his other auctions, some are pretty common items

$150/$175 for a take off carry handle
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=401968596

$900/$1000 for a 6920 upper
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=401968836

$700/$750 for a 9mm upper receiver (no barrel)
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=401969030

$700/$750 for a 14.5" socom barrel
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=404275465

and the list goes on and on.  no biggie if he wants to get top dollar and doesn't care if they sell or not but being priced at twice what market is kinda makes people go
3/27/2014 10:42:17 AM EDT
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Yeah, I see what you mean.

I had only looked at the cutaway.
3/27/2014 10:59:12 AM EDT
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That cutaway is super rare. Especially the carbines, especially the 11.5 Commandos.  But the problem for me is how to get a lower.  I couldn't bring myself to massacre a new Nodak lower.......though it would be really cool.   I plan to just use mine as a display piece, or try to find a damaged lower, or heck maybe even an 80%' er.

The Holy Grail of cutaways:


3/27/2014 11:19:38 AM EDT
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That cutaway is super rare. Especially the carbines, especially the 11.5 Commandos.  But the problem for me is how to get a lower.  I couldn't bring myself to massacre a new Nodak lower.......though it would be really cool.   I plan to just use mine as a display piece, or try to find a damaged lower, or heck maybe even an 80%' er.

The Holy Grail of cutaways:

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj149/halpark/DSC00102_zpsf911de6a.jpg
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If memory serves the ATF still counts that receiver as a machine gun
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