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Posted: 12/1/2012 2:58:15 PM EDT
Not a lot to shout about at this show, mostly the taciticool crowd 
Did find these beauties buried on a table. Was almost afraid to ask the guy how much since the were not priced. Not sure he knew what they are since I got the for $5 apiece 
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| They look pretty good. Usually $10 ea here so I'd say score! I bought two 1st gen M-67 for three 30rd mags for $15ea recently. Probably too much but I see way more of the 20 rds than the early dated 30's and condition looked similar to yours, writing/stamping inside and out was very clear though. Think it depends on where one is located. I buy the 2nd gen 30 rd M-67's for $1 ea just to get the alice clips. Surplus has gone up from the wholesalers in last 6 months considerably 25-30% I'm told so I'd say grab what you can when you can if it's something you may want, even later. I'm kinda mag pouched out but still buy them sometimes. I would have bought those just because they are in great shape. Got way more pouches than 20 rd mags and kinda just get the 30's now days for my 30 rd mags. They would probably go over great on PIF without breaking the bank. |
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Those are 20rd M16 mag pouches. They were transitional from the M-1956 era into the LC-1 era of the 1970's. They still had the same hand grenade carrier design from the M14 mag pouches from the M-1956 gear, which was the best hand grenade carrier system of all the US gear to-date, in my opinion. You could carry an M67 frag, M18 Smoke, and other spoon-equipped hand grenades with that sleeve and tab fastener system, that was easy to grab quickly without having to open a pouch, but was still secure enough to load & unload vehicles, was easy to rig for airborne operations, but the Army fixed it with the 30rd M16 mag pouches.
In 2002, I modified most of my MOLLE double M4 mag pouches with the M14 style grenade sleeve and a fuse retainer, using modern materials. |
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Those are 20rd M16 mag pouches. They were transitional from the M-1956 era into the LC-1 era of the 1970's. They still had the same hand grenade carrier design from the M14 mag pouches from the M-1956 gear, which was the best hand grenade carrier system of all the US gear to-date, in my opinion. You could carry an M67 frag, M18 Smoke, and other spoon-equipped hand grenades with that sleeve and tab fastener system, that was easy to grab quickly without having to open a pouch, but was still secure enough to load & unload vehicle, was easy to rig for airborne operations, but the Army fixed it with the 30rd M16 mag pouches. In 2002, I modified most of my MOLLE double M4 mag pouches with the M14 style grenade sleeve and a fuse retainer, using modern materials. cool thanks for the info. i've seen 30s cheap are $2 or $3 but never seen 20s for cheap. |
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They look pretty good. Usually $10 ea here so I'd say score! I bought two 1st gen M-67 for three 30rd mags for $15ea recently. Probably too much but I see way more of the 20 rds than the early dated 30's and condition looked similar to yours, writing/stamping inside and out was very clear though. Think it depends on where one is located. I buy the 2nd gen 30 rd M-67's for $1 ea just to get the alice clips. Surplus has gone up from the wholesalers in last 6 months considerably 25-30% I'm told so I'd say grab what you can when you can if it's something you may want, even later. I'm kinda mag pouched out but still buy them sometimes. I would have bought those just because they are in great shape. Got way more pouches than 20 rd mags and kinda just get the 30's now days for my 30 rd mags. They would probably go over great on PIF without breaking the bank. Oh I'm calling it a score alright!
$5 each around here just don't happen very often! And I have a lot of 20s that need some place to call home
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just curious - what are they really worth? I've got about half a dozen of them and thought they were about worthless - clue me in. I have seen them as cheap as $2 each. I wish they were that cheap around here! When and if you do find them they are asking $20 - $30 each for them! Quoted:
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Those are 20rd M16 mag pouches. They were transitional from the M-1956 era into the LC-1 era of the 1970's. They still had the same hand grenade carrier design from the M14 mag pouches from the M-1956 gear, which was the best hand grenade carrier system of all the US gear to-date, in my opinion. You could carry an M67 frag, M18 Smoke, and other spoon-equipped hand grenades with that sleeve and tab fastener system, that was easy to grab quickly without having to open a pouch, but was still secure enough to load & unload vehicle, was easy to rig for airborne operations, but the Army fixed it with the 30rd M16 mag pouches. In 2002, I modified most of my MOLLE double M4 mag pouches with the M14 style grenade sleeve and a fuse retainer, using modern materials. cool thanks for the info. i've seen 30s cheap are $2 or $3 but never seen 20s for cheap. ^^^What he said
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They look pretty good. Usually $10 ea here so I'd say score! I bought two 1st gen M-67 for three 30rd mags for $15ea recently. Probably too much but I see way more of the 20 rds than the early dated 30's and condition looked similar to yours, writing/stamping inside and out was very clear though. Think it depends on where one is located. I buy the 2nd gen 30 rd M-67's for $1 ea just to get the alice clips. Surplus has gone up from the wholesalers in last 6 months considerably 25-30% I'm told so I'd say grab what you can when you can if it's something you may want, even later. I'm kinda mag pouched out but still buy them sometimes. I would have bought those just because they are in great shape. Got way more pouches than 20 rd mags and kinda just get the 30's now days for my 30 rd mags. They would probably go over great on PIF without breaking the bank. Oh I'm calling it a score alright!
$5 each around here just don't happen very often! And I have a lot of 20s that need some place to call home
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just curious - what are they really worth? I've got about half a dozen of them and thought they were about worthless - clue me in. I have seen them as cheap as $2 each. I wish they were that cheap around here! When and if you do find them they are asking $20 - $30 each for them! Quoted:
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Those are 20rd M16 mag pouches. They were transitional from the M-1956 era into the LC-1 era of the 1970's. They still had the same hand grenade carrier design from the M14 mag pouches from the M-1956 gear, which was the best hand grenade carrier system of all the US gear to-date, in my opinion. You could carry an M67 frag, M18 Smoke, and other spoon-equipped hand grenades with that sleeve and tab fastener system, that was easy to grab quickly without having to open a pouch, but was still secure enough to load & unload vehicle, was easy to rig for airborne operations, but the Army fixed it with the 30rd M16 mag pouches. In 2002, I modified most of my MOLLE double M4 mag pouches with the M14 style grenade sleeve and a fuse retainer, using modern materials. cool thanks for the info. i've seen 30s cheap are $2 or $3 but never seen 20s for cheap. ^^^What he said good gawd man, look at the mags...........you need to go on the 12 point plan.
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Nice lot of mags Robert. I probably have 20-25 of the 20's and more like 100 of the 30's. Got a box of Colt 30's I've never even opened. $10 is going price here for M-1967 shorty 1st gen even unissued. Pass on them quite frequently. The M-1956 shorty canvas can get to $25 or even more pretty quick if unissued. I buy those when I can find them for $20 or less. Got three anyway. Here's a retro pic of a few living in my entertainment center some still waiting for loaded mags.
cool thanks for the info. i've seen 30s cheap are $2 or $3 but never seen 20s for cheap. If you find some extra 1st Gen 30 rds with suspender clip for $2-3 grab a couple for me please. Top right in photo. Those are the one's I paid $15 ea for. Stupid me! 2nd Generation M-1967 30 rds run $1 all day long here bottom right. Those I usually rob the alice clips for my gear. 1st Gen M-1967 shorty 4-20's with clip top left. M-1956 shorty canvas with suspender clip 4-20's bottom left and standard M-1956 M-14 or M-16 20 rds with socks underneath or many just used them to hold beer. Most popular in most VN photos. Far right middle is 1st Gen M-1967 M-14 dated 1972 and kinda rare. See VNgear for more gear photos if interested. 
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The pouches being referred to as "2nd gen M67" pouches belong to the LC1 family of equipment
Thanks for correcting. I just always called them early and late M-1967 30 rd pouches. I actually just use a belt with five pouches (15 mags) on it loaded that I sometimes throw over my shoulder and take plinking / shooting. Kinda switched to a 7 pocket bandolier lately as it fits nicely in my shooting bag. Think my days of shooting 450-500 rds at one time are quickly getting behind me due to expense. |
I have an old Care and Use of Individual Equipment FM that I got when I was a kid. FM 21-15
The main improvement to the LCE in that transitional era of the late 60's into the 70's was the use of nylon, versus the traditional cotton canvas that had been used dating back to Korea, WWII, WWI, and the 1800's. The cotton canvas, while much more comfortable, rots quickly in the field. Good post CDNNMark on the variations of early M16 & M14 mag pouches. |
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Not a lot to shout about at this show, mostly the taciticool crowd
Did find these beauties buried on a table. Was almost afraid to ask the guy how much since the were not priced. Not sure he knew what they are since I got the for $5 apiece
http://imageshack.us/a/img826/9923/a195e8efca206f5b14da8b4.jpg Excellent score. I like the magazine pouches. I feel you did very good. |
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Riggs,
I don't believe you have enough pouches for that 20 rd mag collection. They aren't $5 ea but Charleyssurplus sells 20 rd 4 mag pouches SKU: CA434 that I believe he has mis-labeled as M-72 pouches for $14.95ea (condition?) . Look the same to me anyway. They have some neat stuff from time to time. Not the cheapest but not the most expensive either. Have always been very pleasant to deal with IMO. Do have a $30 minimum but how can one spend less than $30. Better than the $20-30 you said the surplus pouches bring in that neck of the woods (prairie). |
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I wish they were that cheap around here! When and if you do find them they are asking $20 - $30 each for them! I lived in Washington State from 1996-2003. Going to the gunshows I could always find them cheap, even as low as $2 ea for used ones. I probably have 30 of them. I use them to store some of my magazines. I haven't priced any lately because I have no need for any more. |
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good gawd man, look at the mags...........you need to go on the 12 point plan. I'm sure there is someone that will be along shortly that will put me to shame  You've got me beat by a long shot on 20s, but I think I might still have you beat overall on AR mags..
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| Betwixt the two of ya'll I'd say the AR mag thing is covered. I remember the first Obama curse and bought quite a few back then myself. For 20's I buy NHMTG when I can afford to spend that much on a mag. For Armageddon I'll probably use 30's until I can pick up someone's better stuff. RPG's come to mind and I'm wanting one of them there drone planes kinda bad. |
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