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10/20/2011 11:42:16 AM EDT
Need the machined retaining pin that holds the firing pin in place, any suggestions?

(Using the cotter pin for now.)
10/20/2011 11:48:54 AM EDT
[#2]
Done, Thank you
10/20/2011 11:51:59 AM EDT
[#4]
Wow I never even knew these existed.. guess I have a lot to learn about retro
10/20/2011 12:11:50 PM EDT
[#5]
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Wow I never even knew these existed.. guess I have a lot to learn about retro


That makes 2 of us.
10/20/2011 12:17:08 PM EDT
[#6]
Is there a reliability advantage to using one of these?  Or is it intended for retro completists?
10/20/2011 12:22:31 PM EDT
[#7]
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Is there a reliability advantage to using one of these?  Or is it intended for retro completists?


Purely for the retro completeness
10/20/2011 12:33:45 PM EDT
[#8]
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Is there a reliability advantage to using one of these?  Or is it intended for retro completists?


Purely for the retro completeness


I don't know if I'd agree...I find the solid pin a bit more durable than the softer split pins...now whether or not that means my firing pin is taking the beating instead of the retaining pin is the question
10/20/2011 12:42:04 PM EDT
[#9]
Everyonce in a while something gets changed for a good reason. Everyonce in a while.
10/20/2011 4:10:31 PM EDT
[#10]
Manufacturing costs are most likely cheaper on the "cotter"-style pin.
10/20/2011 5:56:20 PM EDT
[#11]
Is there a reliability advantage to using one of these? Or is it intended for retro completists?

Hard to wear out the originals but the cost of the DPMS should be around 7 times the amount of the less expensive cotter pin.  A real Colt will set you back more than likely 25-50 times the cost of a cotter pin even in todays market.  How many cotter pins are you gonna wear out.  Figure one every $800-1000 worth of ammo if handled with care.  All about the economics.  I've seen both types broken but don't know the exact round count.  I believe most are broken while cleaning,  removing and  re-installing.  I've never done it but snap one of the little ears off your genuine Colt early retaining pin while re-installing it.  Probably make a grown man want to cry.  Seen a few broken early Colt's on the EE over the years and have personally broken at least one cotter pin that I know of.  Have worn both cotter pins and firing pins enough to warrant replacement but never a DPMS retaining pin.  The early Colt's are becoming hard to find without being attached to the $200 plus BCG.
10/21/2011 12:45:30 PM EDT
[#12]
Not to hijak the thread, but! Is there an obvious difference between the original Colt, and the new aftermarket pins?
10/21/2011 2:33:29 PM EDT
[#13]
Yes, the original Colt ones are machined. Youu can actually see the small lines from when they were turned down. They also usually have a black dot/wear mark in the center of the flat head. The DPMS copies are not machined and do not have the fine cut lines.

If someone else in the hive knows more, they'll be along to comment shortly.
10/21/2011 2:58:31 PM EDT
[#14]
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Yes, the original Colt ones are machined. Youu can actually see the small lines from when they were turned down. They also usually have a black dot/wear mark in the center of the flat head. The DPMS copies are not machined and do not have the fine cut lines.

If someone else in the hive knows more, they'll be along to comment shortly.

If the DPMS ones aren't machined, then how are they made?
10/21/2011 4:31:51 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
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Yes, the original Colt ones are machined. Youu can actually see the small lines from when they were turned down. They also usually have a black dot/wear mark in the center of the flat head. The DPMS copies are not machined and do not have the fine cut lines.

If someone else in the hive knows more, they'll be along to comment shortly.

If the DPMS ones aren't machined, then how are they made?


I should've added, the DPMS ones are plated, the Colts are solid. Side by side, they are different. As said above, real Colts are many times more $ then the $8 Didn't Pass Military Spec versions.
10/21/2011 4:40:41 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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Yes, the original Colt ones are machined. Youu can actually see the small lines from when they were turned down. They also usually have a black dot/wear mark in the center of the flat head. The DPMS copies are not machined and do not have the fine cut lines.

If someone else in the hive knows more, they'll be along to comment shortly.

If the DPMS ones aren't machined, then how are they made?


I should've added, the DPMS ones are plated, the Colts are solid. Side by side, they are different. As said above, real Colts are many times more $ then the $8 Didn't Pass Military Spec versions.



At $8 a pop I'm not all that worried about breaking one, original Colt would be a different story if I broke it.
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