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4/6/2010 10:49:05 PM EDT
How much are the early edgewater buffers supposed to weigh? Also any pics of the internals? I seem to remember a few years back someone posted up a pic or two of a disassembled edgewater, but I can't seem to find anything using the search bar.....Thanks......

4/7/2010 4:43:17 AM EDT
[#1]
I found this thread that has a photo and anice drawing in an archive search. I don't know if you can view it if you're not a team member, but here it is:



http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=123&t=357685



Another thread lists the comparative weights as being 1.8 oz for the Edgewater and 4.8 oz. for the new production buffer.
4/7/2010 7:18:09 AM EDT
[#2]
Here you go.





4/7/2010 10:15:05 AM EDT
[#3]
I can not believe someone has not come up with a reproduction Edgewater buffer (full and carbine) yet. Looks like a machinist could do it fairly easily and inexpensive. I'm sure they would sell.
4/7/2010 12:17:04 PM EDT
[#4]
I've never held them in my hand, but from the photos I can't see how those Edgewater "ring springs" could fail to get jammed together.



The description in The Black Rifle says that the male rings compress and the female rings expand, but how does that work without splits in the rings?
4/7/2010 12:34:12 PM EDT
[#5]
Also from the same thread:

4/7/2010 10:27:57 PM EDT
[#6]
Great info as always!!  You guy's rock!!    The reason I ask is, the edgwater that I have is very light. Seems way lighter than it should be. I will weigh it on my postal scale tomorrow for an exact weight. If you shake it, you can not hear anything move inside. You can just barely see something move through the roll pin recess. Maybe after all these years the internals have jammed together? Should i open it up and clean it out? I assume you just pull the roll pin out?
4/8/2010 12:03:08 AM EDT
[#7]
Seems like a good way to save a good amt of weight. I wonder why it hasnt been redux for newer rifles.
4/8/2010 12:42:42 AM EDT
[#8]
http://www.ashbymfg.com/ring_springs.html

Very iiiinteresting...This idea lives on...
4/8/2010 6:13:23 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Great info as always!!  You guy's rock!!    The reason I ask is, the edgwater that I have is very light. Seems way lighter than it should be. I will weigh it on my postal scale tomorrow for an exact weight. If you shake it, you can not hear anything move inside. You can just barely see something move through the roll pin recess. Maybe after all these years the internals have jammed together? Should i open it up and clean it out? I assume you just pull the roll pin out?

It should rattle like a childs toy rattle when you hold it on the 2 ends and shake.I won one off GB sold as broken. Seller thought it had something broken inside,,got for real cheap.Turned out to be the nicest of the 7 I have

4/8/2010 6:18:47 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Great info as always!!  You guy's rock!!    The reason I ask is, the edgwater that I have is very light. Seems way lighter than it should be. I will weigh it on my postal scale tomorrow for an exact weight. If you shake it, you can not hear anything move inside. You can just barely see something move through the roll pin recess. Maybe after all these years the internals have jammed together? Should i open it up and clean it out? I assume you just pull the roll pin out?

It should rattle like a childs toy rattle when you hold it on the 2 ends and shake.I won one off GB sold as broken. Seller thought it had something broken inside,,got for real cheap.Turned out to be the nicest of the 7 I have


7?
4/8/2010 9:03:32 AM EDT
[#11]
I wonder what the edgewater buffer uses the edgewater springs for, if it still uses a buffer spring anyway?

Is it to dampen the shock, like what the tungsten weights are for in modern heavy buffers?
4/8/2010 10:03:02 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
I wonder what the edgewater buffer uses the edgewater springs for, if it still uses a buffer spring anyway?

Is it to dampen the shock, like what the tungsten weights are for in modern heavy buffers?


My understanding is that it dampens some of the shock, and the ring springs are used because the friction between the ring springs converts some of the energy to heat rather than just decompressing at full force.
4/9/2010 5:21:59 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
I wonder what the edgewater buffer uses the edgewater springs for, if it still uses a buffer spring anyway?

Is it to dampen the shock, like what the tungsten weights are for in modern heavy buffers? Yep


The buffer acts like a "dead blow" hammer.

The Buffer Spring controls the buffer, and returns the bolt and carrier back to battery.
4/9/2010 6:02:28 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Great info as always!!  You guy's rock!!    The reason I ask is, the edgwater that I have is very light. Seems way lighter than it should be. I will weigh it on my postal scale tomorrow for an exact weight. If you shake it, you can not hear anything move inside. You can just barely see something move through the roll pin recess. Maybe after all these years the internals have jammed together? Should i open it up and clean it out? I assume you just pull the roll pin out?

It should rattle like a childs toy rattle when you hold it on the 2 ends and shake.I won one off GB sold as broken. Seller thought it had something broken inside,,got for real cheap.Turned out to be the nicest of the 7 I have


7?

Yep,,3 I located and bought for some of our good friends here on arfcom,,,I still have 4 and just got another one,on it's way as we speak! I also hope to work a deal for 3 very nice looking  601 buffer tubes...

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