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Posted: 5/12/2009 6:32:36 PM EDT
| OK, I've been bitten hard by the retro bug. Will someone please explain the naval jelly thing to me? Thanks! |
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take your new made lower steel parts (trigger, mag release, pins, bolt catch, selector?) and paint naval jelly on. Rig up the part with a wire of some sort so you can do it all in one go for an even color. The naval jelly will change from pepto-bismol pink to a light pink color, let it sit for 10-30 seconds (I brush mine constantly for this time), rinse off in hot water, dry, and oil immediately. Repeat until desired color is reached, usually once or twice.
Beware, though, some parts have no finish under the black. Wish I knew who made those pins. 
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Guess I've been lucky. Haven't hit any of the naked under the black pieces, but guess I'll start checking any future jobs by putting a dab of the Naval Jellyon a non visisble sot, like the backside of a safety lever, before coating it.
I can tell y'all this. Anything from Colt, Bushamster or DPMS will be phosphated under the black. Colt and Bushie will have a manganese phosphate, milspec coating, which is a bit darker.. DPMS will have a lighter, non milspec zinc phosphate coating |
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Do it! You're heading down a dangerous path...  Yep. Its too late for me. Late summer last I was down to 1 AR, an pre-ban HBAR. Enough I said. Then I started hanging out on ARF.COM. Now I've got no less than 5 AR platform weapons cooking 3 of which are retro; a 604, a 605, and an early prototype -32. Last night I thought to myself hey a 629 or 651 would be cool. Damn I've got it bad! |
| I started using Naval jelly when I was stationed in Guam. It worked great for removing rust on my truck rims. I forgot about it until recently when I left a drill press on the back porch and it rusted. I went to the auto parts store, asked the clerk for some Naval jelly and he looked at me like I was a pervert. I tried to explain it's Naval jelly, not Navel jelly. Another clerk that was a little older stepped in and informed me it is no longer called Naval jelly, it's "rust removal gel." Whatever, same stuff! |
| Thanks for all the tips folks. Yep, it's true, my BRD has mutated into an entirely new obsession. I guess the retro gene has been dormant in my system for years (my very first AR was an old SP1) and has now decided to make it's presence known. Just bought another SP1 about 2-3 months ago. Now I've just got to have a 629 clone. The 629 will be AR number 8. LOL |
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I started using Naval jelly when I was stationed in Guam. It worked great for removing rust on my truck rims. I forgot about it until recently when I left a drill press on the back porch and it rusted. I went to the auto parts store, asked the clerk for some Naval jelly and he looked at me like I was a pervert. I tried to explain it's Naval jelly, not Navel jelly. Another clerk that was a little older stepped in and informed me it is no longer called Naval jelly, it's "rust removal gel." Whatever, same stuff! "Naval jelly" brand is still available in my neck of the woods. 
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| I got it from Lowes. It was still called Naval Jelly". It was in the paint section. My Stag LPK hammer and trigger pins had no finish under the black coating either. The pins turned color in about a minute. The trigger took 5-10 minutes with some scrubbing and came out a nice gray. I had to repark the pins. |
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I started using Naval jelly when I was stationed in Guam. It worked great for removing rust on my truck rims. I forgot about it until recently when I left a drill press on the back porch and it rusted. I went to the auto parts store, asked the clerk for some Naval jelly and he looked at me like I was a pervert. I tried to explain it's Naval jelly, not Navel jelly. Another clerk that was a little older stepped in and informed me it is no longer called Naval jelly, it's "rust removal gel." Whatever, same stuff! "Naval jelly" brand is still available in my neck of the woods. http://www.megpro.com/ar/parts/navaljelly.jpg Ya, I could have found it somewhere, it was probably just the store I was at. Same stuff, it was just kind of funny at the time. (It's even funnier that we are taking pictures of Naval Jelly, retro type and new type) 
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Finally tried "the trick" myself. I recently received a complete 604 kit back from Victor at US Anodizing, only to realize that I forgot to include the hammer & trigger pins.  So I ordered a couple of black DPMS pins from Midway. The pins are now an almost perfect match to the "XM Gray" shade that Victor used on my upper & lower.Whoever discovered the Naval Jelly trick should be nominated for a Nobel prize.  |
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Navy uses it to remove rust. Since gun bluing is also a form of rust, it will also remove bluing. Hasn't been used for a loooong time. Probably been banned aboard Navy vessels just as long as asbestos. The current SOP usually is manually or mechanically remove loose rust. Treat any remaining areas w/ rust converter primer, which turns the rust black (supposedly becomes metal again). Then apply epoxy primer or paint. |
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F Whoever discovered the Naval Jelly trick should be nominated for a Nobel prize.
I guess that was me. I may not have been the first to discover it, but I was definitely the first to post it on this site. And it pleases me no end that so many fellow Retroers have gotton benefits from the info. 
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take your new made lower steel parts (trigger, mag release, pins, bolt catch, selector?) and paint naval jelly on. Rig up the part with a wire of some sort so you can do it all in one go for an even color. The naval jelly will change from pepto-bismol pink to a light pink color, let it sit for 10-30 seconds (I brush mine constantly for this time), rinse off in hot water, dry, and oil immediately. Repeat until desired color is reached, usually once or twice. Beware, though, some parts have no finish under the black. Wish I knew who made those pins. Just wondering if this would effect the soften the harden parts. I would assume not since it's stripping the outer layer, but just wanted to ask. |
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shamayim could have made a ton on Gunbroker if he had kept it to himself and sold gray parts there. We owe him a lot of thanks! Appreciate the thought. Actually, Daddy always taught me to be helpful rather than money oriented. That's probably why he never got rich; and I'm not going to either.
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Quoted: Quoted: F Whoever discovered the Naval Jelly trick should be nominated for a Nobel prize. I guess that was me. I may not have been the first to discover it, but I was definitely the first to post it on this site. And it pleases me no end that so many fellow Retroers have gotton benefits from the info. Look for a letter from Norway to arrive shortly. |
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Last year I saw the city hall in Oslo where they have the Nobel prize ceremony. You'll enjoy visiting there.
Enjoy the money too, you'll need it in Oslo. VERY expensive place to visit. From your mouth to God's ear.
Since I'm in the process of retiring, on a reduced income, II'll need it in North Georgia.
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