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4/23/2008 11:21:04 PM EDT
Got my green paint form Kurt and had a few questions

1. How did you prep the stocks before application?
2. How did you apply the paint (airbrush?)
3. Did you have to thin, and if so with what?
4. How many coats applied?
5. How many coats from a single bottle?
6. How long did it take to dry?

Any other random tips?

TIA CATMLB
4/24/2008 4:01:26 AM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
Got my green paint form Kurt and had a few questions

1. How did you prep the stocks before application?
2. How did you apply the paint (airbrush?)
3. Did you have to thin, and if so with what?
4. How many coats applied?
5. How many coats from a single bottle?
6. How long did it take to dry?

Any other random tips?

TIA CATMLB


CATMLB...The Question Man...    [j/k!]  

I can't help...I just fine-sanded my mottled black stocks and buffed them with white rouge on a 3/4" sewn muslin [no relation to Bin Laden] wheel...  

They came out nice...(Pics don't show it)...I'm anxious to see how Delrin responds to buffing...  
4/24/2008 4:12:58 AM EDT
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Quoted:
Got my green paint form Kurt and had a few questions

1. How did you prep the stocks before application?
2. How did you apply the paint (airbrush?)
3. Did you have to thin, and if so with what?
4. How many coats applied?
5. How many coats from a single bottle?
6. How long did it take to dry?

Any other random tips?

TIA CATMLB


I did mine many years ago, but here's what I remember: Clean stock, scuff the surface with a scotch pad or somthing similar. Remove the rear swivel with a punch, mask the butt pad.  Use an airbrush or paint gun.  I do see portable, disposable spray bottles on the market now.  Thin with enamel thinner.  I would do at least two-three coats.  A 3 1/2 oz. bottle of paint should cover two stock sets  with at least two coats.  You can handle in 12-24 hrs., but for maximum hardness let cure for about a month before rough handling.
   Sorry I can't be more helpful, but my father wouldn't let me go into the family buisness! (I became a surgeon instead)
4/24/2008 8:39:03 AM EDT
[#3]
Since your painting what is a resin or plastic type material, I think it would work to use a geen colored primer that's made for plastic bumper covers and then paint the pieces. This should make for excellent adhesion. Just my .02
4/24/2008 8:51:39 AM EDT
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It is worth a try.  If you are going to use the rifle often there might be better ways than what I did.  When I did mine I asked our body expert and I did it like he said.  Maybe there is some new or better stuff out there.  I'll do a google search and see if I can find anything.
4/24/2008 10:59:23 AM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:
Got my green paint form Kurt and had a few questions

1. How did you prep the stocks before application?
2. How did you apply the paint (airbrush?)
3. Did you have to thin, and if so with what?
4. How many coats applied?
5. How many coats from a single bottle?
6. How long did it take to dry?

Any other random tips?

TIA CATMLB


CATMLB...The Question Man...    [j/k!]  

I can't help...I just fine-sanded my mottled black stocks and buffed them with white rouge on a 3/4" sewn muslin [no relation to Bin Laden] wheel...  

They came out nice...(Pics don't show it)...I'm anxious to see how Delrin responds to buffing...  



I know but inquiring minds want to know.

I redid a 1:18 dicast model of the car my dad had when he was in high school, and had a bad reaction between the two paints. Ended up wiping off the majority of the paint that just wouldn't dry then stripped the rest with a dremal. Didn't really want to go through that all again on a larger scale.

Thanks for the help everyone
4/24/2008 1:44:15 PM EDT
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I know but inquiring minds want to know.


My mind, too, now that I think of it...VAAR has me thinking about brown AR10 handguards/stocks/grips...and I do have some...No! I have enough projects!

Keep us posted on what you do.

That idea/tip on the bumper paint sounds promising...that stuff is flexible, and might be just the thing for the handguards...  

I did a Trans Am with Dupont Imron; that stuff sticks to plastic very nicely...and steel...and skin...  
4/24/2008 2:05:10 PM EDT
[#7]
I talked to my friend Gigs at the body shop today and asked him abut the process they use to paint the bumper covers. He said if it's a new unprimed cover they first scuff it with a scotchbrite pad, then they use one of these three products: PPG SU4901, which is a treated sponge, PPG SU4902, which is basically the same product in a treated towell, or PPG SXA1050, which is a can of spray adheasion promoter. Then the primer that is tinted to the base color and finally the paint and clear. If it's a single stage paint the clear is mixed in with the paint. I listed the PPG numbers because that is the brand of paint they use. Martin Seynor or other paint companys will have there own products of this type with different numbers. If the bumper covers come from the factory already primed, they just scuff and paint. The bare covers have an oily film that they exhude untill it is covered with the proper materials or the paint won't stick. Hope this helps.
4/24/2008 9:17:54 PM EDT
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I forgot to mention, when you use the sponge or cloth wipe version of the adheasion promoter you are only supposed to wipe the material down in one direction. The parts or paint store should be able to give you exact directions.
4/24/2008 9:47:07 PM EDT
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From above Kurt says its enamel paint, wonder if you can use any kind of primer or if it has to be a certain kind. An epoxy brown base might be nice, its tough and if the green chips then you would possibly have brown underneath.
4/24/2008 10:30:32 PM EDT
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Got my green paint form Kurt and had a few questions

1. How did you prep the stocks before application? Sand with 220 grit, then wet sand with 400. Wrap the sandpaper around a worn out sanding sponge
2. How did you apply the paint (airbrush?) Airbrush setup made by Testors bought at Walmart in hobby section by the model airplanes
3. Did you have to thin, and if so with what? Testors Enamel thinner from Walmart, in same section. About 50/50
4. How many coats applied? As needed, I used three or so...
5. How many coats from a single bottle? You could probably do 4 or 5 complete sets of stocks, including pistol grips Maybe more, come to think of it, as I initially applied three coats unthinned, then stripped and re-did.
6. How long did it take to dry? I did mine in the sun last summer. They were ready to pick up overnight (I moved them into my shed overnight) I didn't have problems with scratching, but some have said it takes about a month to cure completely

Any other random tips? Yeah, I used car wax on mine to gloss them up some. This may have helped them be a little more scratch resistant, too.

TIA CATMLB


Hope this helps, Mark
4/24/2008 10:36:09 PM EDT
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From above Kurt says its enamel paint, wonder if you can use any kind of primer or if it has to be a certain kind. An epoxy brown base might be nice, its tough and if the green chips then you would possibly have brown underneath.


I thought about that too. I picked up some cheap brown Krylon primer, and did some other handguards and a stock with black Fusion. The stock turned out nice (Like a glossy black Cadillac fender), but I had to strip the handguards, as the primer and paint built up a little too much, and when I installed them, they chipped around the handguard cap. The primer color would have been right though. I sanded these parts primed with 220 then wet with 400 grit, and the scuffing of the primer left them mottled properly and glossy.
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