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3/20/2008 12:32:39 PM EDT
What would be the correct sling for SP1 Carbine? It looks like a CAR-15 but with a longer FH to keep the length legal. I am looking for the type of sling that would have been used in service with similar carbines in the 60s-70s.
3/20/2008 7:46:13 PM EDT
[#1]
I think the standard M1 canvas sling was most popular in VN.  They were used on both carbines and rifles.  AFAIK, there was no special sling for carbines.
3/21/2008 3:35:56 AM EDT
[#2]
Do you mean the "seatbelt" style sling? I have a few of those, how do you install one on a collapsing stock?
3/21/2008 4:21:48 AM EDT
[#3]
The sling that came with my 1977 produced SP1 crbine was pretty much the standard black silent sling. I say "pretty much" because one end was in fact sewn to the adjustment piece, so you had to undo the other end and unwrapt the sewn end to totally remove the thing
3/21/2008 5:34:42 AM EDT
[#4]

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Do you mean the "seatbelt" style sling? I have a few of those, how do you install one on a collapsing stock?




3/21/2008 9:49:07 AM EDT
[#5]
M1 Cotton or Nylon

Para Cord

Webbing

Leather Pants Belt

Bandage, Triangular, OD, Camouflage

Rope

Surgical tubing

A Montegnard mamasan's  scarf / sasha

If your talking "In the field" sling, they could have been made out of anything.  Get creative with it.  Search some LRRP unit websites and look at their galleries.  Try the 75th  LRRP / Ranger units.  You'll find a plethora of slings.

Otherwise,  the basic grunt sling was OD Cotton or Nylon.  
Black Silent for a factory replacement.

Hal
3/22/2008 4:53:03 AM EDT
[#6]

Funny.  The guy asks about the slings that came w/an SP1 carbine, and y'all load him up w/info on Viet Nam type slings.

To my knowledge, no SP1s ever were used in Viet Nam

Of course, he did confuse the issue by referring to service type slings.  Guess he assumed the Colt put issue slings on their commercial pieces.  They did not.

3/22/2008 5:00:59 AM EDT
[#7]
They either had the black cotton or black nylon silent sling like the current Colts have.
3/22/2008 8:14:52 AM EDT
[#8]

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Funny.  The guy asks about the slings that came w/an SP1 carbine, and y'all load him up w/info on Viet Nam type slings.

To my knowledge, no SP1s ever were used in Viet Nam

Of course, he did confuse the issue by referring to service type slings.  Guess he assumed the Colt put issue slings on their commercial pieces.  They did not.


 He asked about "similar carbines" in the service in the 60s and 70s.  I assumed the XM177 series.
3/22/2008 5:41:19 PM EDT
[#9]

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What would be the correct sling for SP1 Carbine? It looks like a CAR-15 but with a longer FH to keep the length legal. I am looking for the type of sling that would have been used in service with similar carbines in the 60s-70s.


OD Nylon $25 at MooresMilitaria



www.mooremilitaria.com/prod03.htm
3/22/2008 7:11:17 PM EDT
[#10]

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What would be the correct sling for SP1 Carbine? It looks like a CAR-15 but with a longer FH to keep the length legal. I am looking for the type of sling that would have been used in service with similar carbines in the 60s-70s.


OD Nylon $25 at MooresMilitaria



www.mooremilitaria.com/prod03.htm


How does that ^ differ from this current issue USN M-14 OD nylon sling?

3/22/2008 7:23:02 PM EDT
[#11]

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What would be the correct sling for SP1 Carbine? It looks like a CAR-15 but with a longer FH to keep the length legal. I am looking for the type of sling that would have been used in service with similar carbines in the 60s-70s.


OD Nylon $25 at MooresMilitaria

www.mooremilitaria.com/Nylon%20Sling.JPG

www.mooremilitaria.com/prod03.htm


How does that ^ differ from this current issue USN M-14 OD nylon sling?

www.charleyssurplus.com/M14%20NAVY%20ISSUE%20SLING.JPG


That's a fine looking sling, but it looks cotton to me, not nylon. IIRC, the cotton slings are green, and the nylon (seatbelt) sling are more brown in color.

ETA: And if I'm wrong, where didja' get that sling and how much was it, cuz I want one too!!! EM me!
3/23/2008 5:42:36 AM EDT
[#12]

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What would be the correct sling for SP1 Carbine? It looks like a CAR-15 but with a longer FH to keep the length legal. I am looking for the type of sling that would have been used in service with similar carbines in the 60s-70s.


OD Nylon $25 at MooresMilitaria

www.mooremilitaria.com/Nylon%20Sling.JPG

www.mooremilitaria.com/prod03.htm


How does that ^ differ from this current issue USN M-14 OD nylon sling?

www.charleyssurplus.com/M14%20NAVY%20ISSUE%20SLING.JPG


That's a fine looking sling, but it looks cotton to me, not nylon. IIRC, the cotton slings are green, and the nylon (seatbelt) sling are more brown in color.

ETA: And if I'm wrong, where didja' get that sling and how much was it, cuz I want one too!!! EM me!

It's not cotton but nylon in OD green. It only looks like cotton because of the weave  . I think the VN one from Moore's Militaria has a diagonal weave. Someone who has one please chime in. Anyhow you can get the USN M-14 OD nylon sling much cheaper than the VN one from Moore's. Only 10.50 at www.charleyssurplus.com/
3/25/2008 11:56:58 AM EDT
[#13]
I was looking for a service type sling, I know the SP1 was not a military rifle. Has a quasi Model 610 look about it, not exactly but close enough.

Here it is!

3/25/2008 5:45:52 PM EDT
[#14]
That course nylon sling is a different animal than what Moore sells; it is an issue sling but I never saw one in any outfit I was in.  What Moore sells it what the US Army Used for years and is referred to as the seat belt sling as it resembles seat belt webbing.  It was originally an M14 sling that they switched to due to the rapid jungle rotting of the cotton M1 sling.  We used those seatbelt slings all through the 1970's and 80's on M16A1's and when a new rifle came in with a black silent sling we pitched them and put the old M14 slings on them.  
3/29/2008 3:19:06 PM EDT
[#15]
I think that "current issue Navy sling" might be the current USMC M16 sling.
3/30/2008 8:41:29 AM EDT
[#16]
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That course nylon sling is a different animal than what Moore sells; it is an issue sling but I never saw one in any outfit I was in.  What Moore sells it what the US Army Used for years and is referred to as the seat belt sling as it resembles seat belt webbing.  It was originally an M14 sling that they switched to due to the rapid jungle rotting of the cotton M1 sling.  We used those seatbelt slings all through the 1970's and 80's on M16A1's and when a new rifle came in with a black silent sling we pitched them and put the old M14 slings on them.  


When you say M14 sling I assume that you are refering to the web sling as in M1 Garand, but has a flat keeper????
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