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Posted: 11/12/2008 7:19:06 PM EDT
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I've been reading the FAQs and stickies, and I'm still confused about one thing. Can you use any stripped lower receiver to build a pistol. From what I've read so far, I've gatherd that as long as the receiver doesn't say "Rifle," and the dealer transfers it as a pistol/stripped receiver, you're in the clear? If you have a stipped lower that was transfered in this manner, would it be smart to have it engraved "pistol only."
I'm probably going to get another lower tomorrow or Friday and I want to be sure everything's kosher. |
| when you purchase the lower it has to be "virgin" aka never built into a rifle. When you fill out the paperwork to ascertain the lower, you tell them it will be for a pistol and it is marked as such. It doesn't need to say "pistol" on the receiver, just the paper work |
| The most important thing is that it's a virgin reciever...the manufacturer must have it on their books as either a virgin reciever or a pistol reciever NOT a rifle reciever. But most manufacturers are cool about this. My advice is to call the manufacturer of the reciever you plan to use and find out how they list their recievers. |
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Do you need the "virgin" paper work if it's already marked as a pistol? Honestly you don't need paperwork. The simplest way is to buy a lower stamped with "pistol"...personally I don't like the lowers stampped with "registered pistol" or "pistol only" as that might cause confusion if you ever SBR it or built it into a regular rifle. However if you buy a regualr stripped receiver, call the manufacturer, tell them you want to know how it's logs on their roles. If you give them the serial number over the phone they should be able to tell you right then and there. If not many manufacturers will send you a "birth certficate" that tells the date of manufaturing, and that it was a stripped receiver for a fee. |
I was trying to order a pistol lower today for a build and was told that certain manufacturers will no longer be marking lowers as rifle or pistol. Lowers will now be generic and you build it how you want!
So, because of this, stripper lowers cannot be sold to anyone under the age of 21. I do not want to mention any names until I get a better clarification on the situation nor do I want to upset the ATF with an improper build. Has anyone else heard something similar. |
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Yup ... I read some instances where 'some' manufacturers have differed with other manufacturers.
Some say “it doesn’t matter whether the lower is pistol or rifle … just as long as it is virgin”. Some say “the lower MUST be virgin, registered by the manuf as a pistol, and transferred as a pistol”. Some manufacturers have said that there is a “BY FEDERAL LAW it (the pistol lower) must be factory registered as a pistol receiver” (though refuses to comment on the existence of such a law). Beats me … all of those manufacturers would say that they are doing it the right way. I bought mine from Spike’s who evidently register theirs as ‘pistols’, engrave ‘pistol’ on them, and transfers them as ‘pistols’. I highly doubt that I would be in the wrong. |
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Quoted:So, because of this, stripper lowers cannot be sold to anyone under the age of 21.
No, the way I have heard it is that the new ATF form has an option for "frame/receiver" that isn't long gun or handgun. If it isn't a long gun, you have to be 21. Thus, receiver = 21 or older now. I saw the new option twice myself recently when filling out the form. See Cavalry Arms' industry forum. They had a post on how someone 18-20 can get one of their lowers (they build it as a rifle for you and pay an excise tax). As far as not marking lowers anymore as pistol-only, if they all are a new class (receiver/frame), they aren't rifles by default. I would ask the ATF directly before assuming a pistol can now be built from any lower, no matter what any manufacturer says. I wouldn't want to build an illegal SBR because a manufacturer said it was okay. I doubt they'd pay for your law fees or break you out of prison if it got to that. |
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