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6/15/2007 1:51:50 PM EDT
I am sure this has been asked about 1000 times before but I can't find what I need on the search function.

I have a Stag lower that has paperwork that says it is a pistol lower. Can the lower be built into a rifle?
6/15/2007 1:53:09 PM EDT
[#1]
Stripped lower?  Yes.
6/17/2007 1:57:03 PM EDT
[#2]
The only legal problem you would have, would be if you originally build it as a rifle, then want to later convert it to a pistol.  If it's originally built with a stock, it can never be a pistol.
6/18/2007 4:51:38 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
The only legal problem you would have, would be if you originally build it as a rifle, then want to later convert it to a pistol.  If it's originally built with a stock, it can never be a pistol.


Wrong!

If its listed as a stripped lower you can go back and forth, just like a Thompson Contender. If you 4473 a Contender frame as a pistol you can go back and forth from a pistol to a rifle as often as you want! The only issue in WI is you must be 21 to purchace a frame or receiver 4473'd as a handgun. Check local handgun laws.
6/18/2007 5:39:11 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The only legal problem you would have, would be if you originally build it as a rifle, then want to later convert it to a pistol.  If it's originally built with a stock, it can never be a pistol.


Wrong!

If its listed as a stripped lower you can go back and forth, just like a Thompson Contender. If you 4473 a Contender frame as a pistol you can go back and forth from a pistol to a rifle as often as you want! The only issue in WI is you must be 21 to purchace a frame or receiver 4473'd as a handgun. Check local handgun laws.




Other than the "Wrong!", what in your statement conflicts with my statement?

If the stripped lower is originally used to build a pistol, it can later be switched to a rifle configuration (as long as the stock is never on the receiver while it is assembled with an upper that has a barrel shorter than 16") and back to a pistol configuration.

If the stripped lower is originally used to build a rifle, that's all it can ever legally be (unless you file NFA paperwork).
6/19/2007 1:23:49 PM EDT
[#5]
JPN, you are correct.  First build, not paperwork, determines what the firearm is.  First build as a rifle, it is a rifle from that point on and cannot be put into pistol configuration unless, as you said, you SBR it.
First build a a pistol, THEN the TC rule applies and you can go to rife and back to pistol as much as you want. You buy a TC Contender or Encore pistol and you can  convert to rifle.  Buy a TC Contender or Encore carbine and you cannot convert to a pistol.  The ATFE is VERY clear on that.
The 4473 paperwork really does not determine what it is.  If the 4473 says it is a rifle then according to the letter sent me by the ATFE you would have a hard time saying it was a pistol.  Say it is a pistol or just a stripped lower then you can do your pistol thing, but even if it says pistol then the first build is a rifle, if anyone can prove that or you cannot prove it was first built into a pistol then you may be inviting trouble.
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