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Posted: 3/24/2023 11:32:04 AM EDT
[#1]
Am I the only that is worried about all the holes Ruger added to the bolt and receiver?
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Posted: 3/24/2023 11:58:47 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EzGoingKev: Am I the only that is worried about all the holes Ruger added to the bolt and receiver? Along with the hole on each side of the upper receiver there is also a vent hole where the gas tube enters that is about the size of those two holes combined. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/24/2023 1:40:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: heavily_armed]
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EzGoingKev: Am I the only that is worried about all the holes Ruger added to the bolt and receiver? Worried no, but am curious if magwell grip leads to burning surprise. 
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Posted: 3/24/2023 7:05:17 PM EDT
[#4]
To change out the rail on these, do they take standard AR15 rails and barrel nuts or are they .308 specific? The way the gas block touches the inside of the stock rail isn’t ideal.
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MN, USA
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Posted: 3/24/2023 7:48:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wespe: To change out the rail on these, do they take standard AR15 rails and barrel nuts or are they .308 specific? The way the gas block touches the inside of the stock rail isn’t ideal. What standard? Mose rails have their own barrel nut so there really isn't a "standard" other than mil-spec delta ring assy. I'd expect to change the rail would require removal of the existing barrel nut and all the stuff in the way to get there, and replacing with your rail/nut of choice. If the gas blocks journal isn't dimpled you should be able to tweak a misaligned gas block so it doesn't touch. If you want more room in the rail that is another story. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 7:53:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By s4s4u: What standard? Mose rails have their own barrel nut so there really isn't a "standard" other than mil-spec delta ring assy. I'd expect to change the rail would require removal of the existing barrel nut and all the stuff in the way to get there, and replacing with your rail/nut of choice. If the gas blocks journal isn't dimpled you should be able to tweak a misaligned gas block so it doesn't touch. If you want more room in the rail that is another story. I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that .308 guns would use a larger barrel nut. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 3/24/2023 8:12:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wespe: I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that .308 guns would use a larger barrel nut. Large frame .308 guns do use a larger barrel nut. But the interior dimensions of the barrel nut are not relative to the outside radius of the barrel nut which has to match the interior dimension of the handguard. There are handguards with many different interior dimensions and each comes with a barrel nut that will fit the appropriate upper receiver. That said, the SFAR uses AR-15 upper receiver dimensions. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 8:41:39 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wespe: do they take standard AR15 rails and barrel nuts |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 8:59:03 PM EDT
[#9]
 Thanks
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Posted: 3/24/2023 9:05:27 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony: Unless it is within say 10 or 20 thou at rest or loaded by sling/bipod, it'll touch after the bullet is gone. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony: Originally Posted By WI_Bill: What's ruger's plan for ensuring no gas block/handguard contact? Seems as if one or both need a size change? A little worried about my 16 inch now. Even if there's no contact at rest, what about when things are bouncing around at firing? By my measurements the top of the gas block is .420" and the gas tube channel in the factory handguard (as well as most aftermarket handguards is .440". That means with the gas block perfectly centered, there's no more than .010" clearance. Entirely too little IMHO and I've seen accuracy problems with more clearance than that. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 9:11:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BULLDAWG_556: Does anyone know if a free float tube with a 1.5 inner diameter would clear the factory gas block? I doubt there's a 2" ID handguard made that will give clearance for the factory Ruger gas block unless you go with a 12" free float tube that terminates behind the gas block. The factory Ruger adjustable gas block is very tall and wide compared to any others that are designed to fit inside a handguard.  Attached File |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/25/2023 7:55:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wirebrush: I doubt there's a 2" ID handguard made that will give clearance for the factory Ruger gas block unless you go with a 12" free float tube that terminates behind the gas block. The factory Ruger adjustable gas block is very tall and wide compared to any others that are designed to fit inside a handguard. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/763/IMG_20230223_125910598_jpg-2757803.JPG Thank you |
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Posted: 3/25/2023 1:51:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BULLDAWG_556: Thank you Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BULLDAWG_556: Originally Posted By Wirebrush: I doubt there's a 2" ID handguard made that will give clearance for the factory Ruger gas block unless you go with a 12" free float tube that terminates behind the gas block. The factory Ruger adjustable gas block is very tall and wide compared to any others that are designed to fit inside a handguard. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/763/IMG_20230223_125910598_jpg-2757803.JPG Thank you You sure on 2" I'd? You're not measuring from the center of the barrel |
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Posted: 3/25/2023 1:55:42 PM EDT
[#14]
I think I'll be buying SLR gas blocks for mine
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MN, USA
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Posted: 3/25/2023 4:48:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jakezor: You sure on 2" I'd? You're not measuring from the center of the barrel If you look at his pic you can see the center of the gas block is less than 1" from the top. Looks to be a little more than 3/4" but less than 7/8" so a handgurad with a 2" interior diameter would clear with room to spare. |
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Posted: 3/25/2023 6:45:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: November5]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By s4s4u: If you look at his pic you can see the center of the gas block is less than 1" from the top. Looks to be a little more than 3/4" but less than 7/8" so a handgurad with a 2" interior diameter would clear with room to spare. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By s4s4u: Originally Posted By Jakezor: You sure on 2" I'd? You're not measuring from the center of the barrel If you look at his pic you can see the center of the gas block is less than 1" from the top. Looks to be a little more than 3/4" but less than 7/8" so a handgurad with a 2" interior diameter would clear with room to spare. |
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Posted: 3/26/2023 9:47:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Marex]
[#17]
Would something like the Riflespeed gas system work for those having gas block/rail intereference? I have no experience with the system or seen one in person but it seems like it might be an option that keeps adjustable functionality.
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Posted: 3/26/2023 10:48:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marex: Would something like the Riflespeed gas system work for those having gas block/rail intereference? I have no experience with the system or seen one in person but it seems like it might be an option that keeps adjustable functionality. |
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Posted: 3/26/2023 12:59:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By November5: Most modern adjustable gas blocks aren't as chunky as the Ruger. Not disagreeing but I was speaking more for convenience sake. Not all adjustable gas blocks are readily adjustable, especially on the fly or with full length handguards. One of the attributes of the SFAR that I find beneficial is the ability to easily acess the gas block adjustment and the ability to do so without specialized tools. |
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Posted: 3/26/2023 1:23:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marex: Would something like the Riflespeed gas system work for those having gas block/rail intereference? I have no experience with the system or seen one in person but it seems like it might be an option that keeps adjustable functionality. Rail is too long on the 16 inch, would not be able to twist the adjustment. I'm considering an SLR but hate losing the ball end hex that keeps in the rifle. |
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Posted: 3/26/2023 1:26:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnSmith6073: Rail is too long on the 16 inch, would not be able to twist the adjustment. I'm considering an SLR but hate losing the ball end hex that keeps in the rifle. Bummer. Thanks for the fyi. |
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Posted: 3/26/2023 3:12:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marex: Would something like the Riflespeed gas system work for those having gas block/rail intereference? I have no experience with the system or seen one in person but it seems like it might be an option that keeps adjustable functionality. I’ll let you know, I have a 16in sfar on the way. along with the longest rifle speed adjustable block, and a geissele mk16. |
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Posted: 3/26/2023 4:05:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Daggertt]
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marex: Would something like the Riflespeed gas system work for those having gas block/rail intereference? I have no experience with the system or seen one in person but it seems like it might be an option that keeps adjustable functionality. https://www.riflespeed.com/Choose-your-Gas-Control_ep_41.html Also keep in mind that this gun uses AR15 handguards, so you can also just change out the handguard to something that works better for you. You could even just get a 9" midlength freefloat handguard that leaves the Ruger gas block exposed.    |
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Posted: 3/26/2023 4:39:16 PM EDT
[#24]
I haven't had the issue, just threw an idea out there for those that have had problems. Appreciate the responses. Exiting left.
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Posted: 3/28/2023 5:14:43 PM EDT
[#26]
Just picked up a 16” this morning
Trying to figure out what optic to put on it. I’m thinking a vortex strike eagle 1x8 |
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Posted: 3/31/2023 10:58:51 AM EDT
[#27]
So is the Odin gas block the best option for something to fit under a 15” Geissele Mk8?
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/31/2023 5:01:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: heavily_armed]
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman: Let us know what they say please! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman: Originally Posted By heavily_armed: I contacted Ruger and explained how I could not get a feeler gauge between the block and handguard. They offered to look at it. Fedex picked up the rifle (Ruger did not want just the upper, they wanted the whole rifle) from the house yesterday. This is one of the few ways we can ship rifles anymore--Fedex pickup from residence in my case, requires signature when dropped off. So they replaced the barrel and gas block. Consistent with all the witness marks I applied to the barrel and gas block before shipping are gone, the rest remain. One week turnaround door to door. Good job Ruger. Should get it to the range this weekend. |
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Posted: 3/31/2023 7:31:50 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By heavily_armed: https://i.postimg.cc/nV2RWQkk/ruger1.png So they replaced the barrel and gas block. Consistent with all the witness marks I applied to the barrel and gas block before shipping are gone, the rest remain. One week turnaround door to door. Good job Ruger. Should get it to the range this weekend. Let us know how it does |
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Posted: 3/31/2023 9:17:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: So is the Odin gas block the best option for something to fit under a 15” Geissele Mk8? That's what I went with just because it was available off the shelf locally, but I think just about any aftermarket low profile gas block will be a better fit than the factory Ruger gas block. |
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Posted: 3/31/2023 9:19:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman: Interesting Let us know how it does I did get the replacement firing pin for my rifle today and it glides back and fourth in the bolt like butter. Haven't fired any rounds with it yet but should be gtg I think. |
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Posted: 4/1/2023 5:39:02 PM EDT
[#32]
Took mine out this morning and tried out a few loads with the can on it. It seems to like 135 grain SMKs.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/3/2023 8:15:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: heavily_armed]
[#33]
Range day Sunday was a little frustrating to start but got better. SFAR unsuppressed would not function consistently on gas setting #2. As this was discovered while sighting in a new optic, well it was pissing me off. Recovering from one malf had me ramming the SiCO charging handle against a wooden post to extract a round, the SiCO CH did not handle this well.
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USA
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Posted: 4/6/2023 11:14:49 PM EDT
[#34]
About to buy, has anybody actually cut a 20" down to 16" ? Any cons? I've skimmed this thread but didn't find a definitive answer. Please respond before this buzz wears off and I change my mind
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2023 12:34:11 AM EDT
[#35]
So yall that have one what are the overall ratings 1-10 on it? Ima hold off on one for now but interested in opinions.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2023 2:59:04 PM EDT
[#36]
Where's the best place to grab one of these?
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Posted: 4/8/2023 9:53:21 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2JokersWild: Where's the best place to grab one of these? gun.deals |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/8/2023 10:07:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By luv_the_huskers: gun.deals Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By luv_the_huskers: Originally Posted By 2JokersWild: Where's the best place to grab one of these? gun.deals Follow every link on gun.deals and sign up for email notification for every one that supports it. (BTW vendors, fuck you if want me to create an account to get emails to buy your shit) This one came to my inbox earlier this week, but is now sold out. Price was $9xx https://shop.spiguns.com/ruger-nib-5610 |
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Posted: 4/10/2023 1:55:25 PM EDT
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Has anyone else had accuracy issues with their SFAR? I've tried five different rounds including loadings from Winchester, Remington, Federal, Norma and Black Hills. My 50 yard 3 shot groups are 2 ish plus inches. I've checked my suppressor (Nomad LT), muzzle device, ADM optic mount as well as the optic. NXS 2.5-10. With other rifles I'm a sub MOA shooter. What else can I check?
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Posted: 4/10/2023 2:17:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKJEFF: Has anyone else had accuracy issues with their SFAR? I've tried five different rounds including loadings from Winchester, Remington, Federal, Norma and Black Hills. My 50 yard 3 shot groups are 2 ish plus inches. I've checked my suppressor (Nomad LT), muzzle device, ADM optic mount as well as the optic. NXS 2.5-10. With other rifles I'm a sub MOA shooter. What else can I check? |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 4/10/2023 2:59:47 PM EDT
[#41]
What else can I check? Have you shot it without the suppressor? |
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Posted: 4/10/2023 3:04:10 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By s4s4u: Have you shot it without the suppressor? Only a few rounds of the Black Hills but the group was very open also. |
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Posted: 4/10/2023 3:28:34 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Daggertt: you could check the gas block touching the handguard. You can check what kind of space there is between the gas block and the inside of the handguard. The SFAR takes any AR15 handguard, so technically you could trade it out with something shorter that doesn't cover the gas block. Before investing in going that direct, though, it might be beneficial to just remove the handguard and fire a few rounds with the gun resting on the magazine and nothing touching the barrel. It isn't ideal for precision, but it might give you enough feedback to conclude that this is the variable that's giving you issues (ie. groups tighten up without handguard). |
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Posted: 4/10/2023 4:07:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Daggertt: I think it's this thread where we've been discussing the gas block issue. It's so big that it doesn't fit very well under a handguard, and is very likely contacting the handguard during firing, which might be giving you grouping issues. You can check what kind of space there is between the gas block and the inside of the handguard. The SFAR takes any AR15 handguard, so technically you could trade it out with something shorter that doesn't cover the gas block. Before investing in going that direct, though, it might be beneficial to just remove the handguard and fire a few rounds with the gun resting on the magazine and nothing touching the barrel. It isn't ideal for precision, but it might give you enough feedback to conclude that this is the variable that's giving you issues (ie. groups tighten up without handguard). Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Daggertt: Originally Posted By Daggertt: you could check the gas block touching the handguard. You can check what kind of space there is between the gas block and the inside of the handguard. The SFAR takes any AR15 handguard, so technically you could trade it out with something shorter that doesn't cover the gas block. Before investing in going that direct, though, it might be beneficial to just remove the handguard and fire a few rounds with the gun resting on the magazine and nothing touching the barrel. It isn't ideal for precision, but it might give you enough feedback to conclude that this is the variable that's giving you issues (ie. groups tighten up without handguard). I'm wondering if this is the issue? Just went to look and while it's difficult to tell with the picture it appears contact has been or is being made.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/15/2023 12:28:17 PM EDT
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So mine shot well enough that I decided to take it completely apart, and Cerakote it, and add a bunch of parts.
     
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Posted: 4/15/2023 1:59:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sagillman: So mine shot well enough that I decided to take it completely apart, and Cerakote it, and add a bunch of parts. https://i.imgur.com/8s15R0A.jpg https://i.imgur.com/3DWqeQU.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Y355hv6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/XCUueLO.jpg https://i.imgur.com/J36vuzN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Q3ghPxt.jpg PRS Gas Gun? |
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Posted: 4/15/2023 6:27:19 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vmpglenn: PRS Gas Gun? I’m thinking I might shoot some local matches with it. I was pretty amazed how well it shot 147gr Norma ball (1.25-1.5in 5 shot) with the factory GB damn near touching the handguard. |
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Posted: 4/15/2023 8:39:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Stonia]
[#48]
The gas block thing is interesting. Hopefully Ruger addresses it. Being all but required to change parts on a brand new rifle is holding me back.
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Posted: 4/15/2023 9:31:11 PM EDT
[#49]
Yeah, I mean the factory gas block felt extremely well-made. It just needed to be a little smaller. I would definitely go with it over an SLR, if they were to tweak the size a little bit.
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Posted: 4/15/2023 10:11:30 PM EDT
[#50]
Tracking shows Ruger will receive my SFAR Monday. I'll be sure to post updates. Hope it's an easy fix.
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