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Posted: 11/25/2016 6:14:45 PM EDT
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Was just gifted a stripped PSA AR10 lower and upper. I've built 3 AR15s. Where do I start? What are the major differences? What triggers/barrels/hand guards etc should I be looking for? PSA any good as far as AR10? Not nice enough for a high end barrel? Does it even matter? |
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I'd buy THIS and THIS from PSA. Or if you just want a stock trigger and safety, THIS.
The first two kits are necessary. The PSA PA-10 uses different takedown pins, bolt catch, and mag release. I also went with the stock tube, spring and buffer, as they are kinda proprietary. Have a PSA bolt that I bought, but I also bought a KAK BCG dual ejector pin. The rest of it you can use AR 15 parts, triggers, safety's. As mentioned before you need the AR-10 lower pattern for the hand guard. I like JL Billet. MI makes some good hand guards as well. As far as the barrel, do pretty much whatever you want to spend. I bought the PSA 16 inch stainless steel barrel, but it's out of stock right now. |
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I'd buy THIS and THIS from PSA. Or if you just want a stock trigger and safety, THIS. The first two kits are necessary. The PSA PA-10 uses different takedown pins, bolt catch, and mag release. I also went with the stock tube, spring and buffer, as they are kinda proprietary. Have a PSA bolt that I bought, but I also bought a KAK BCG dual ejector pin. The rest of it you can use AR 15 parts, triggers, safety's. As mentioned before you need the AR-10 lower pattern for the hand guard. I like JL Billet. MI makes some good hand guards as well. As far as the barrel, do pretty much whatever you want to spend. I bought the PSA 16 inch stainless steel barrel, but it's out of stock right now. Just to add to Daves post. Don't look for "AR-10 low pattern" you want DPMS low pattern. AR-10 is a different breed. |
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I'd buy THIS and THIS from PSA. Or if you just want a stock trigger and safety, THIS. The first two kits are necessary. The PSA PA-10 uses different takedown pins, bolt catch, and mag release. I also went with the stock tube, spring and buffer, as they are kinda proprietary. Have a PSA bolt that I bought, but I also bought a KAK BCG dual ejector pin. The rest of it you can use AR 15 parts, triggers, safety's. As mentioned before you need the AR-10 lower pattern for the hand guard. I like JL Billet. MI makes some good hand guards as well. As far as the barrel, do pretty much whatever you want to spend. I bought the PSA 16 inch stainless steel barrel, but it's out of stock right now. Just to add to Daves post. Don't look for "AR-10 low pattern" you want DPMS low pattern. AR-10 is a different breed. Yes, DPMS low pattern. I don't know why they had to make so many different variations on this platform. It really makes things difficult. 
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Dave, it's a real PITA....I started with a psa stripped lower and upper. I really didn't know where to go with it because psa pretty much bailed out on the pa-10. I thank you guys for helping me out. Can you give me a parts list for what you ended up using? |
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I'd buy THIS and THIS from PSA. Or if you just want a stock trigger and safety, THIS. The first two kits are necessary. The PSA PA-10 uses different takedown pins, bolt catch, and mag release. I also went with the stock tube, spring and buffer, as they are kinda proprietary. Have a PSA bolt that I bought, but I also bought a KAK BCG dual ejector pin. The rest of it you can use AR 15 parts, triggers, safety's. As mentioned before you need the AR-10 lower pattern for the hand guard. I like JL Billet. MI makes some good hand guards as well. As far as the barrel, do pretty much whatever you want to spend. I bought the PSA 16 inch stainless steel barrel, but it's out of stock right now. If I buy the first two kits can I use any trigger? Will it take a Geissele? What do you suggest? I'm going to need a lot of help on this one! Thanks so much! |
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Dave, it's a real PITA....I started with a psa stripped lower and upper. I really didn't know where to go with it because psa pretty much bailed out on the pa-10. I thank you guys for helping me out. Can you give me a parts list for what you ended up using? PSA PA-10 stripped upper and stripped lower PSA PA-10 ACT lower parts kit, dust cover and Forward assist from psa CMMG A2 rifle stock, spring and buffer (308) ToolCraft BCG (Toolcraft makes the bcg's for PSA) KM Tactical 20" barrel KM Tactical 15" K rail BCM Mod 4 charging handle |
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If I buy the first two kits can I use any trigger? Will it take a Geissele? What do you suggest? I'm going to need a lot of help on this one! Thanks so much! Quoted:
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I'd buy THIS and THIS from PSA. Or if you just want a stock trigger and safety, THIS. The first two kits are necessary. The PSA PA-10 uses different takedown pins, bolt catch, and mag release. I also went with the stock tube, spring and buffer, as they are kinda proprietary. Have a PSA bolt that I bought, but I also bought a KAK BCG dual ejector pin. The rest of it you can use AR 15 parts, triggers, safety's. As mentioned before you need the AR-10 lower pattern for the hand guard. I like JL Billet. MI makes some good hand guards as well. As far as the barrel, do pretty much whatever you want to spend. I bought the PSA 16 inch stainless steel barrel, but it's out of stock right now. If I buy the first two kits can I use any trigger? Will it take a Geissele? What do you suggest? I'm going to need a lot of help on this one! Thanks so much! The ACT trigger that comes with the PSA kit I mentioned is very good. The triggers on the PA-10 are AR-15 style so I would think any AR-15 trigger with work. BTW, the pistol grips are not the same as the AR-15. I think its DPMS pattern. |
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Is this a low quality upper/lower? Should I not bother with a nice barrel? Expensive components? Not at all, I'd say its a good quality.. Ok to put a high dollar barrel on this thing and make it a real shooter for long range hunting? |
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Is this a low quality upper/lower? Should I not bother with a nice barrel? Expensive components? Not at all, I'd say its a good quality.. Ok to put a high dollar barrel on this thing and make it a real shooter for long range hunting? I've read nothing but good things about the Aero Precision barrels. IMO, the barrel is probably your best investment. Obviously I didn't go that route but I'm happy with the KMT barrel and its made in the USA. The M loc rails from KMT are really nice for the money. I'm pretty sure their not made in the USA but their still a great product for the price. FWIW, The PA-10, AR-10 or LR308 is a heavy SOB. I shoot out in the desert 99% of the time so its 10 feet from the truck to the table. I'm not really concerned about the weight. http://aeroprecisionusa.com/barrels/ar-308-barrels.html Here's mine 
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easttexas, have you read anything about the differences between PA-10 Gen1 and Gen2 ? I hate it when they do this crap. |
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Yes, DPMS low pattern. I don't know why they had to make so many different variations on this platform. It really makes things difficult.
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I'd buy THIS and THIS from PSA. Or if you just want a stock trigger and safety, THIS. The first two kits are necessary. The PSA PA-10 uses different takedown pins, bolt catch, and mag release. I also went with the stock tube, spring and buffer, as they are kinda proprietary. Have a PSA bolt that I bought, but I also bought a KAK BCG dual ejector pin. The rest of it you can use AR 15 parts, triggers, safety's. As mentioned before you need the AR-10 lower pattern for the hand guard. I like JL Billet. MI makes some good hand guards as well. As far as the barrel, do pretty much whatever you want to spend. I bought the PSA 16 inch stainless steel barrel, but it's out of stock right now. Just to add to Daves post. Don't look for "AR-10 low pattern" you want DPMS low pattern. AR-10 is a different breed. Yes, DPMS low pattern. I don't know why they had to make so many different variations on this platform. It really makes things difficult.
What's a DPMS low pattern? First I've heard of that term. Do you mean... DPMS original LR-308? DPMS AP4 high profile? DPMS AP4 Low Profile? DPMS GII? There are at least 4 different receiver heights from DPMS alone. I only thought there were 2 in the LR-308 line, but discovered 3. Someone toasted the image link that shows all 3 lined up from LR-308 to both AP4s. You can see it in an image search, but it is forbidden when you try to click on it now. DPMS LR-308 receiver heights |
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easttexas, have you read anything about the differences between PA-10 Gen1 and Gen2 ? I hate it when they do this crap. Quoted:
easttexas, have you read anything about the differences between PA-10 Gen1 and Gen2 ? I hate it when they do this crap. I just saw that PSA introduced a PA-10 Gen2. They said it is cosmetic, and that if you try to mix and match Gen 1 with Gen 2 receivers, it will just look bad, but should still work. |
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I'd buy THIS and THIS from PSA. Or if you just want a stock trigger and safety, THIS. The first two kits are necessary. The PSA PA-10 uses different takedown pins, bolt catch, and mag release. I also went with the stock tube, spring and buffer, as they are kinda proprietary. Have a PSA bolt that I bought, but I also bought a KAK BCG dual ejector pin. The rest of it you can use AR 15 parts, triggers, safety's. As mentioned before you need the AR-10 lower pattern for the hand guard. I like JL Billet. MI makes some good hand guards as well. As far as the barrel, do pretty much whatever you want to spend. I bought the PSA 16 inch stainless steel barrel, but it's out of stock right now. I'm not going to use the stock or trigger in any of the PSA kit are you sure I can't use another brand of LPK or buffer assembly with this PSA upgrade kit?? |
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I just saw that PSA introduced a PA-10 Gen2. They said it is cosmetic, and that if you try to mix and match Gen 1 with Gen 2 receivers, it will just look bad, but should still work. Quoted:
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easttexas, have you read anything about the differences between PA-10 Gen1 and Gen2 ? I hate it when they do this crap. I just saw that PSA introduced a PA-10 Gen2. They said it is cosmetic, and that if you try to mix and match Gen 1 with Gen 2 receivers, it will just look bad, but should still work. Brother, I know I used the word pattern but I think "profile" is more correct. Kind of like AR-10 and PA-10 :) |
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easttexas, have you read anything about the differences between PA-10 Gen1 and Gen2 ? I hate it when they do this crap. Not really but in the links it says "The Gen2 PA10 receivers are functionally compatible with the Gen1 receivers, however we recommend matching Gen2 lowers to Gen2 uppers for best appearance." This type of stuff is the reason I am sooo glad I bought a completed rifle of another brand. PSA needs to have pics of their G1 with a G2 on a 308 specific FAQ page. |
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I'm not going to use the stock or trigger in any of the PSA kit are you sure I can't use another brand of LPK or buffer assembly with this PSA upgrade kit?? Quoted:
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I'd buy THIS and THIS from PSA. Or if you just want a stock trigger and safety, THIS. The first two kits are necessary. The PSA PA-10 uses different takedown pins, bolt catch, and mag release. I also went with the stock tube, spring and buffer, as they are kinda proprietary. Have a PSA bolt that I bought, but I also bought a KAK BCG dual ejector pin. The rest of it you can use AR 15 parts, triggers, safety's. As mentioned before you need the AR-10 lower pattern for the hand guard. I like JL Billet. MI makes some good hand guards as well. As far as the barrel, do pretty much whatever you want to spend. I bought the PSA 16 inch stainless steel barrel, but it's out of stock right now. I'm not going to use the stock or trigger in any of the PSA kit are you sure I can't use another brand of LPK or buffer assembly with this PSA upgrade kit?? There are SOME parts that you'll need from PSA, those part were mentioned above |
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Not really but in the links it says "The Gen2 PA10 receivers are functionally compatible with the Gen1 receivers, however we recommend matching Gen2 lowers to Gen2 uppers for best appearance." This type of stuff is the reason I am sooo glad I bought a completed rifle of another brand. PSA needs to have pics of their G1 with a G2 on a 308 specific FAQ page. Quoted:
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easttexas, have you read anything about the differences between PA-10 Gen1 and Gen2 ? I hate it when they do this crap. Not really but in the links it says "The Gen2 PA10 receivers are functionally compatible with the Gen1 receivers, however we recommend matching Gen2 lowers to Gen2 uppers for best appearance." This type of stuff is the reason I am sooo glad I bought a completed rifle of another brand. PSA needs to have pics of their G1 with a G2 on a 308 specific FAQ page. I agree. Another good suggestion would be for them to get the parts needed in stock. |
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easttexas, have you read anything about the differences between PA-10 Gen1 and Gen2 ? I hate it when they do this crap. Not really but in the links it says "The Gen2 PA10 receivers are functionally compatible with the Gen1 receivers, however we recommend matching Gen2 lowers to Gen2 uppers for best appearance." This type of stuff is the reason I am sooo glad I bought a completed rifle of another brand. PSA needs to have pics of their G1 with a G2 on a 308 specific FAQ page. I agree. Another good suggestion would be for them to get the parts needed in stock. Yep, I just wonder about all those unknowing G1 PA10 lower owners thinking its like the AR15 receivers. Because you cant just buy the G1 receivers anymore, and if PSA keeps up its PA10 parts timeline its going to take 8 months just to get the parts to finish it because your basically at PSA's mercy for parts until people start experimenting on their own from all the different platforms of what part will work where. |
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I'd buy THIS and THIS from PSA. Or if you just want a stock trigger and safety, THIS. The first two kits are necessary. The PSA PA-10 uses different takedown pins, bolt catch, and mag release. I also went with the stock tube, spring and buffer, as they are kinda proprietary. Have a PSA bolt that I bought, but I also bought a KAK BCG dual ejector pin. The rest of it you can use AR 15 parts, triggers, safety's. As mentioned before you need the AR-10 lower pattern for the hand guard. I like JL Billet. MI makes some good hand guards as well. As far as the barrel, do pretty much whatever you want to spend. I bought the PSA 16 inch stainless steel barrel, but it's out of stock right now. I'm not going to use the stock or trigger in any of the PSA kit are you sure I can't use another brand of LPK or buffer assembly with this PSA upgrade kit?? There are SOME parts that you'll need from PSA, those part were mentioned above I'm confused forgive me. You made it sound like I need their buffer kit and their enhanced kit then it sounded like maybe I just need the enhanced kit and I can get any buffer assembly with an H buffer? Why I'm asking is can I get any LPK and use the parts from their $20 enhanced kit to make it work.... and get a buffer kit from any company say BCM with an H buffer and choose any stock....? |
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I'm confused forgive me. You made it sound like I need their buffer kit and their enhanced kit then it sounded like maybe I just need the enhanced kit and I can get any buffer assembly with an H buffer? Why I'm asking is can I get any LPK and use the parts from their $20 enhanced kit to make it work.... and get a buffer kit from any company say BCM with an H buffer and choose any stock....? Quoted:
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I'd buy THIS and THIS from PSA. Or if you just want a stock trigger and safety, THIS. The first two kits are necessary. The PSA PA-10 uses different takedown pins, bolt catch, and mag release. I also went with the stock tube, spring and buffer, as they are kinda proprietary. Have a PSA bolt that I bought, but I also bought a KAK BCG dual ejector pin. The rest of it you can use AR 15 parts, triggers, safety's. As mentioned before you need the AR-10 lower pattern for the hand guard. I like JL Billet. MI makes some good hand guards as well. As far as the barrel, do pretty much whatever you want to spend. I bought the PSA 16 inch stainless steel barrel, but it's out of stock right now. I'm not going to use the stock or trigger in any of the PSA kit are you sure I can't use another brand of LPK or buffer assembly with this PSA upgrade kit?? There are SOME parts that you'll need from PSA, those part were mentioned above I'm confused forgive me. You made it sound like I need their buffer kit and their enhanced kit then it sounded like maybe I just need the enhanced kit and I can get any buffer assembly with an H buffer? Why I'm asking is can I get any LPK and use the parts from their $20 enhanced kit to make it work.... and get a buffer kit from any company say BCM with an H buffer and choose any stock....? Yes, but remember the pistol grip is not the same on the 308 as the AR-15. I used a cmmg 308 rifle butt stock on mine. Once you get the couple extra parts ( enhanced kit) you can go to any place you want to buy the rest of your parts. Just remember its not an AR-10..you want DPMS and or LR308. I've included a link for a good BCG, Toolcraft makes BCG's for PSA and more. I was very impressed with the one I bought and the price was right http://www.wcarmory.com/toolcraft-bcg-308-bolt-carrier-group-black-9310-mpi-complete.htm |
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You need the enhanced kit from PSA, it has the proprietary takedown pins, bolt catch, mag release. From what I read they also highly suggest their butt stock tube, spring and buffer. I don't know how specific the butt stock tube, spring and buffer are, you'll have to do your own research there. From what I read PSA PA-10 as a slightly longer tube.
I have a Geissele trigger and B.A.D. Safety selector. I also have a Hogue pistol grip I have not noticed the pistol grip being any different. |
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I'm confused forgive me. You made it sound like I need their buffer kit and their enhanced kit then it sounded like maybe I just need the enhanced kit and I can get any buffer assembly with an H buffer? Why I'm asking is can I get any LPK and use the parts from their $20 enhanced kit to make it work.... and get a buffer kit from any company say BCM with an H buffer and choose any stock....? Quoted:
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I'd buy THIS and THIS from PSA. Or if you just want a stock trigger and safety, THIS. The first two kits are necessary. The PSA PA-10 uses different takedown pins, bolt catch, and mag release. I also went with the stock tube, spring and buffer, as they are kinda proprietary. Have a PSA bolt that I bought, but I also bought a KAK BCG dual ejector pin. The rest of it you can use AR 15 parts, triggers, safety's. As mentioned before you need the AR-10 lower pattern for the hand guard. I like JL Billet. MI makes some good hand guards as well. As far as the barrel, do pretty much whatever you want to spend. I bought the PSA 16 inch stainless steel barrel, but it's out of stock right now. I'm not going to use the stock or trigger in any of the PSA kit are you sure I can't use another brand of LPK or buffer assembly with this PSA upgrade kit?? There are SOME parts that you'll need from PSA, those part were mentioned above I'm confused forgive me. You made it sound like I need their buffer kit and their enhanced kit then it sounded like maybe I just need the enhanced kit and I can get any buffer assembly with an H buffer? Why I'm asking is can I get any LPK and use the parts from their $20 enhanced kit to make it work.... and get a buffer kit from any company say BCM with an H buffer and choose any stock....? Just by the enhanced kit and their buffer kit. It will make your life much easier, their buffer kit is a pretty good deal. Once you have those parts, you're pretty much free to do as you please. Just remember to get a DPMS low pattern handguard. |
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Just by the enhanced kit and their buffer kit. It will make your life much easier, their buffer kit is a pretty good deal. Once you have those parts, you're pretty much free to do as you please. Just remember to get a DPMS low pattern handguard. Quoted:
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I'd buy THIS and THIS from PSA. Or if you just want a stock trigger and safety, THIS. The first two kits are necessary. The PSA PA-10 uses different takedown pins, bolt catch, and mag release. I also went with the stock tube, spring and buffer, as they are kinda proprietary. Have a PSA bolt that I bought, but I also bought a KAK BCG dual ejector pin. The rest of it you can use AR 15 parts, triggers, safety's. As mentioned before you need the AR-10 lower pattern for the hand guard. I like JL Billet. MI makes some good hand guards as well. As far as the barrel, do pretty much whatever you want to spend. I bought the PSA 16 inch stainless steel barrel, but it's out of stock right now. I'm not going to use the stock or trigger in any of the PSA kit are you sure I can't use another brand of LPK or buffer assembly with this PSA upgrade kit?? There are SOME parts that you'll need from PSA, those part were mentioned above I'm confused forgive me. You made it sound like I need their buffer kit and their enhanced kit then it sounded like maybe I just need the enhanced kit and I can get any buffer assembly with an H buffer? Why I'm asking is can I get any LPK and use the parts from their $20 enhanced kit to make it work.... and get a buffer kit from any company say BCM with an H buffer and choose any stock....? Just by the enhanced kit and their buffer kit. It will make your life much easier, their buffer kit is a pretty good deal. Once you have those parts, you're pretty much free to do as you please. Just remember to get a DPMS low pattern handguard. Looking to use Magpul rifle stock will it work with PSA buffer kit? Any better way to make it work so I don't waste that MOE stock it comes with? |
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If you're looking to use the Magpul PRS, I believe you need the A2 tube. If that is the case, then I would look into buying an A2 tube for the PRS and then you're going to have to do a little homework to find the proper spring and buffer. Can you link me to magpul stocks that will work with the pa-10 buffer tube?? |
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1. Even the ones that say Carbine?? 2. Can you link me to a buffer kit that will work with one of these stocks that doesn't come with a stock like the PSA does? (Want one with a better cheek weld) Thanks |
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1. Even the ones that say Carbine?? 2. Can you link me to a buffer kit that will work with one of these stocks that doesn't come with a stock like the PSA does? (Want one with a better cheek weld) Studied the website looks like al the other options offer a carbine spring and people complained they didn't cycle well. So this is my only option as far as I can tell. I guess I'll have to sell the stock and buy a different one I like better? Thanks Quoted:
1. Even the ones that say Carbine?? 2. Can you link me to a buffer kit that will work with one of these stocks that doesn't come with a stock like the PSA does? (Want one with a better cheek weld) Studied the website looks like al the other options offer a carbine spring and people complained they didn't cycle well. So this is my only option as far as I can tell. I guess I'll have to sell the stock and buy a different one I like better? Thanks |
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1. Even the ones that say Carbine?? 2. Can you link me to a buffer kit that will work with one of these stocks that doesn't come with a stock like the PSA does? (Want one with a better cheek weld) Studied the website looks like al the other options offer a carbine spring and people complained they didn't cycle well. So this is my only option as far as I can tell. I guess I'll have to sell the stock and buy a different one I like better? Thanks Yes buying the PSA buffer tube kit will be the best bet. So any of the stocks on that page that I linked will fit as long as they say they are for a mil spec buffer tube. The CTR, ACS, ACS-L, and the STR mil spec butt stocks are what you're looking at. I just ordered a ACS to try out last night. Phukker, now I just spent 80 bucks helping you.  
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Yes buying the PSA buffer tube kit will be the best bet. So any of the stocks on that page that I linked will fit as long as they say they are for a mil spec buffer tube. The CTR, ACS, ACS-L, and the STR mil spec butt stocks are what you're looking at. I just ordered a ACS to try out last night. Phukker, now I just spent 80 bucks helping you.
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1. Even the ones that say Carbine?? 2. Can you link me to a buffer kit that will work with one of these stocks that doesn't come with a stock like the PSA does? (Want one with a better cheek weld) Studied the website looks like al the other options offer a carbine spring and people complained they didn't cycle well. So this is my only option as far as I can tell. I guess I'll have to sell the stock and buy a different one I like better? Thanks Yes buying the PSA buffer tube kit will be the best bet. So any of the stocks on that page that I linked will fit as long as they say they are for a mil spec buffer tube. The CTR, ACS, ACS-L, and the STR mil spec butt stocks are what you're looking at. I just ordered a ACS to try out last night. Phukker, now I just spent 80 bucks helping you.
LOL I'm happy to give you an excuse to spend money on a rifle! I have an ACS-L on a Mega ar15 I built and I love it. BTW I just got home from 3 days in the woods and dropped off a monster buck at the taxidermist. Most of the posts I made were from my phone in the deer blind in Mississippi. 6 year old giant rack buck with my rem 700 tactical. I hope to hunt next year with the 308 we've been discussing. |
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