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Posted: 6/25/2016 6:49:01 AM EDT
| What are my options for a stripped upper ? So far all I can find is Armalite and Noveske . |
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Genesis CNC, Matrix Aerospace. These are "A" pattern.
upper receiver , $159 with ch handle |
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Don't suppose it's possible to use an A model upper on a B model lower is it ? No. I asked Armalite this very question a few weeks ago. I ended up going with the Armalite Defender-10, which is the Armalite pattern and barrel nut, and takes PMags/SR-25, etc. Armalite has plenty of in-house support in regards to hand guards and barrels, and such. As soon as it comes back into stock, their 20" barrel will be riding on my Def-10 with PRI rail and A2 stock. |
| I have never understood Armalite's marketing stance. They build the defender only one way, 16" and stupid stock. I think it costs them the same for a 20 tube as the 16" and the A2 stocks are about the same price as the stupid stocks. Now add the fact that they are never in stock and you have a company that should have dominated the AR10 market lagging behind. I like Armalite just wish they would get their head out of their butt. |
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I have never understood Armalite's marketing stance. They build the defender only one way, 16" and stupid stock. I think it costs them the same for a 20 tube as the 16" and the A2 stocks are about the same price as the stupid stocks. Now add the fact that they are never in stock and you have a company that should have dominated the AR10 market lagging behind. I like Armalite just wish they would get their head out of their butt. Couldn't have said it better, myself. The responses I have gotten via email have been terribly unprofessional, but when I called tech support at the gunshop I work out, they were much much better. But still...their website hasn't improved much in 10 years and they need to open their eyes on their build specs, which I think could be improved. The dude that runs the company is a 3-gun shooter, so I heard, and that's why all of their new models are geared more toward competition. |
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Couldn't have said it better, myself. The responses I have gotten via email have been terribly unprofessional, but when I called tech support at the gunshop I work out, they were much much better. But still...their website hasn't improved much in 10 years and they need to open their eyes on their build specs, which I think could be improved. The dude that runs the company is a 3-gun shooter, so I heard, and that's why all of their new models are geared more toward competition. Quoted:
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I have never understood Armalite's marketing stance. They build the defender only one way, 16" and stupid stock. I think it costs them the same for a 20 tube as the 16" and the A2 stocks are about the same price as the stupid stocks. Now add the fact that they are never in stock and you have a company that should have dominated the AR10 market lagging behind. I like Armalite just wish they would get their head out of their butt. Couldn't have said it better, myself. The responses I have gotten via email have been terribly unprofessional, but when I called tech support at the gunshop I work out, they were much much better. But still...their website hasn't improved much in 10 years and they need to open their eyes on their build specs, which I think could be improved. The dude that runs the company is a 3-gun shooter, so I heard, and that's why all of their new models are geared more toward competition. Both if you are missing the point entirely of the Defender models. It's a basic, entry rifle that works. You want extras? Get them. They're not included because that's how they got the price down. They're never in stock because they're fantastic rifles for the money and everyone buys them quick. Why is armalite at fault for making something everyone loves and buys as soon as they hit the shelves? They are dominating the AR10 market because they're rifles work the best. Just because a company outsells another, does not make that product and company better. What's wrong with the build specs? What could be made better? From my experience with tech and sales at armalite, they're very professional when you are. If youre a dick, act stupid, ask dumb questions that are answered in their tech notes, they're going to respond adequately. They are marketing more towards competition because that's s good, profitable market. Armalite doesn't pander to the home builder, or parts gatherer. When you want your stuff to be considered among the best, it must be controlled. Or else you end up like DPMS, Aero, and PSA. With a massive amount of rifles that are mostly shit when it comes to reliability, accuracy, and longevity. |
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Both if you are missing the point entirely of the Defender models. It's a basic, entry rifle that works. You want extras? Get them. They're not included because that's how they got the price down. They're never in stock because they're fantastic rifles for the money and everyone buys them quick. Why is armalite at fault for making something everyone loves and buys as soon as they hit the shelves? They are dominating the AR10 market because they're rifles work the best. Just because a company outsells another, does not make that product and company better. What's wrong with the build specs? What could be made better? From my experience with tech and sales at armalite, they're very professional when you are. If youre a dick, act stupid, ask dumb questions that are answered in their tech notes, they're going to respond adequately. They are marketing more towards competition because that's s good, profitable market. Armalite doesn't pander to the home builder, or parts gatherer. When you want your stuff to be considered among the best, it must be controlled. Or else you end up like DPMS, Aero, and PSA. With a massive amount of rifles that are mostly shit when it comes to reliability, accuracy, and longevity. Quoted:
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I have never understood Armalite's marketing stance. They build the defender only one way, 16" and stupid stock. I think it costs them the same for a 20 tube as the 16" and the A2 stocks are about the same price as the stupid stocks. Now add the fact that they are never in stock and you have a company that should have dominated the AR10 market lagging behind. I like Armalite just wish they would get their head out of their butt. Couldn't have said it better, myself. The responses I have gotten via email have been terribly unprofessional, but when I called tech support at the gunshop I work out, they were much much better. But still...their website hasn't improved much in 10 years and they need to open their eyes on their build specs, which I think could be improved. The dude that runs the company is a 3-gun shooter, so I heard, and that's why all of their new models are geared more toward competition. Both if you are missing the point entirely of the Defender models. It's a basic, entry rifle that works. You want extras? Get them. They're not included because that's how they got the price down. They're never in stock because they're fantastic rifles for the money and everyone buys them quick. Why is armalite at fault for making something everyone loves and buys as soon as they hit the shelves? They are dominating the AR10 market because they're rifles work the best. Just because a company outsells another, does not make that product and company better. What's wrong with the build specs? What could be made better? From my experience with tech and sales at armalite, they're very professional when you are. If youre a dick, act stupid, ask dumb questions that are answered in their tech notes, they're going to respond adequately. They are marketing more towards competition because that's s good, profitable market. Armalite doesn't pander to the home builder, or parts gatherer. When you want your stuff to be considered among the best, it must be controlled. Or else you end up like DPMS, Aero, and PSA. With a massive amount of rifles that are mostly shit when it comes to reliability, accuracy, and longevity. Talk about missing the point....you have managed to do that entirely. I've got several Armalite AR-10s and they are wonderful, but they are far, far from the "Best". They don't hold a candle to the LWRC, Christensens or the Daniel Defense .308's. And, it is a goddam natural fact that they do or did have at least one prick answering their customer service emails. However, like I stated in my post - that you somehow couldn't comprehend - any time I've called, they have bent over backwards to help. Now, if you want to call me a stupid dick who asks dumb questions, then that is your privilege. I hope you feel the same way when I call you an asshole who can't fucking participate in a civilized conversation. |
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Wow, talk about civilized. "You" was a general term. But i guess you were asking dumb questions if you got so offended. Sorry for triggering you.
How is the LWRC better? Because it's piston? If comparing cost equivalent rifles, how are they better than the SASS? How is the DD better? It's certainly not proven yet. Nice design, sure. It's proprietary, and has no track record behind it besides DD making great AR15s. How is Christensen better? Because it has a proof research barrel? Which doesn't have the best track record, although some have performed good. How are they better? I didn't say armalite is the best, i said they're considered among the best. Missing points again. What can Armalite do to improve their design? What's needed? I don't see much of anything except maybe nitride for the barrels and bcg. You can get ambi controls if you need them. They're not needed for anything, but simply a convenience. If a rifle has built in ambi controls, i don't see how that makes the rifle better. Let's hear your civilized rebuttal if you can. I never intended to talk shit. "You" is a very general term. Don't get so butt hurt when you see it. Or should i have said "ze" instead to use politically correct pronouns? |
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I hate democrats because they always have a different view than I do about anything and everything. Yeah, democrats are pretty sensitive when they encounter different ideas. They're very similar to republicans. It's hard to see the difference most of the time. |
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Get back in the shop and make some barrels, ya Ol' Coot!!!! 
Yours Truly, http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=40972 Quoted:
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I hate democrats because they always have a different view than I do about anything and everything. Get back in the shop and make some barrels, ya Ol' Coot!!!!
Yours Truly, http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=40972 Good idea, that would keep me off the streets campaigning for justice for the pigmies. |
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Quoted: Good idea, that would keep me off the streets campaigning for justice for the pigmies. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I hate democrats because they always have a different view than I do about anything and everything. Get back in the shop and make some barrels, ya Ol' Coot!!!! Yours Truly, http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=40972 Good idea, that would keep me off the streets campaigning for justice for the pigmies. Good! Because I hate pygmies! ( Though I do have a soft sot for pygmies ponies. We used to use them on our dental floss farm back home. ) |
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Talk about missing the point....you have managed to do that entirely. I've got several Armalite AR-10s and they are wonderful, but they are far, far from the "Best". They don't hold a candle to the LWRC, Christensens or the Daniel Defense .308's. And, it is a goddam natural fact that they do or did have at least one prick answering their customer service emails. However, like I stated in my post - that you somehow couldn't comprehend - any time I've called, they have bent over backwards to help. Now, if you want to call me a stupid dick who asks dumb questions, then that is your privilege. I hope you feel the same way when I call you an asshole who can't fucking participate in a civilized conversation. Quoted:
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I have never understood Armalite's marketing stance. They build the defender only one way, 16" and stupid stock. I think it costs them the same for a 20 tube as the 16" and the A2 stocks are about the same price as the stupid stocks. Now add the fact that they are never in stock and you have a company that should have dominated the AR10 market lagging behind. I like Armalite just wish they would get their head out of their butt. Couldn't have said it better, myself. The responses I have gotten via email have been terribly unprofessional, but when I called tech support at the gunshop I work out, they were much much better. But still...their website hasn't improved much in 10 years and they need to open their eyes on their build specs, which I think could be improved. The dude that runs the company is a 3-gun shooter, so I heard, and that's why all of their new models are geared more toward competition. Both if you are missing the point entirely of the Defender models. It's a basic, entry rifle that works. You want extras? Get them. They're not included because that's how they got the price down. They're never in stock because they're fantastic rifles for the money and everyone buys them quick. Why is armalite at fault for making something everyone loves and buys as soon as they hit the shelves? They are dominating the AR10 market because they're rifles work the best. Just because a company outsells another, does not make that product and company better. What's wrong with the build specs? What could be made better? From my experience with tech and sales at armalite, they're very professional when you are. If youre a dick, act stupid, ask dumb questions that are answered in their tech notes, they're going to respond adequately. They are marketing more towards competition because that's s good, profitable market. Armalite doesn't pander to the home builder, or parts gatherer. When you want your stuff to be considered among the best, it must be controlled. Or else you end up like DPMS, Aero, and PSA. With a massive amount of rifles that are mostly shit when it comes to reliability, accuracy, and longevity. Talk about missing the point....you have managed to do that entirely. I've got several Armalite AR-10s and they are wonderful, but they are far, far from the "Best". They don't hold a candle to the LWRC, Christensens or the Daniel Defense .308's. And, it is a goddam natural fact that they do or did have at least one prick answering their customer service emails. However, like I stated in my post - that you somehow couldn't comprehend - any time I've called, they have bent over backwards to help. Now, if you want to call me a stupid dick who asks dumb questions, then that is your privilege. I hope you feel the same way when I call you an asshole who can't fucking participate in a civilized conversation. Technically, Is it bi-polar depression? The MOD is fracking slow. 
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I hate democrats because they always have a different view than I do about anything and everything. This, plus they are ALWAYS WRONG! But I've never had a problem with the 3 Armalite AR-10s I have. B Series. Buy the DEF10, break it in, then swap out what you need to make you happy. |
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Yeah, democrats are pretty sensitive when they encounter different ideas. They're very similar to republicans RINOs. It's hard to see the difference most of the time. Quoted:
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I hate democrats because they always have a different view than I do about anything and everything. Yeah, democrats are pretty sensitive when they encounter different ideas. They're very similar to republicans RINOs. It's hard to see the difference most of the time. FIXT |
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