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Posted: 4/8/2016 9:13:52 PM EDT
 I have a bunch of AR's in 5.56 and have a had a few .308's. I know nothing about other caliber AR's.
The LGS had a lightly used 6.5 pistol walk in the door. I assume it is a 6.5 Grendal? Pretty sure I am gonna get it. My questions. Is it dumb in a pistol AR? What is the advantage of the 6.5? Long distance? Best mags? Good/bad barrels? Anything else you can tell me about them? Thanks! |
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Some reading for you. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_121/691935_6_5_Grendel_SBR.html http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1843571_6_5_Grendel_at_1000yds__17_6_Barrel__Pleasantly_Accurate___Pics_From_DM_Course.html http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_121/691775_6_5_Grendel_barrel_.html http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_16_4/1503_6_5_Grendel_Taking_Over_My_Armory.html http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_121/692092_Planning_to_build_a_6_5_Grendel_upper___Parts_list_and_suggestions_needed.html Thanks!! I did a search but came up with none of those...Arfcom search function strikes again. 
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Usually the 6.5 Grendel is usually used more for long range stuff. I have seen more and more people wanting shorter barreled Grendels though. Someday I might own a 16" Grendel, for now I will stick with my 24". 24" is very long. Most guys are using 16-18" barrels with amazing long range results. And there's a bunch of people that are going down to 12" for hunting with stellar results as well. It's a very capable cartridge out of shorter barrels. |
| I've been shooting 6.5 Grendel since 2009 and I like the E-Lander 6.5 Grendel mags sold by Alexander Arms the best. The E-Landers cost a little more than ASC or CPD but are worth it. I really like the curved 17 round mag, a good do everthing mag, not heavy or bulky and works good off the bench. My ASC and C Products are OK but you asked for the best mags. |
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From today's adventure http://i.imgur.com/pZnCUGS.jpg Ran the plates all day. Shits awesome. This is the type of grouping I have seen with my original 16" Grendel barrel from AA as well as these new fluted pipes. It does that with 129gr SST, 123gr AMAX, 123gr SST, etc. No matter what bullet I load, I get very consistent performance like this. I've even shot groups like that at 200yds with 2 different types of ammo, like 123gr SST and 120gr Scenar-L mixed, just to see if my POI was different. I couldn't tell which was which. I get really discouraged if I have to do load development because I am just wasting rounds on paper at close ranges, and I prefer to just hit steel at distances of at least 500yds or more. It's fun to put kids on these little ARs and help them make 1st-round hits at 500-600yds, having never shot long range before, which I have done with my nephews and Venture Patrol Scouts. |
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Finslayer that is awesome! I'm doing basically the same thing you did with the 16" AA barrel and I would like to get one of those SWFA scopes? Do you like the Mil-Quad and are you glad you got 12x instead of the 10x? I do like the 12x and for my uses (steel plates) its great. With that said I think a 10x or 6x would be more versatile. For the money you will get better glass with a fixed scope vs a variable at the sub $700 range. |
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Nice. My 16" AA build is waiting on a backordered scope. I hope mine shoots like yours. |
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I do like the 12x and for my uses (steel plates) its great. With that said I think a 10x or 6x would be more versatile. For the money you will get better glass with a fixed scope vs a variable at the sub $700 range. Quoted:
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Finslayer that is awesome! I'm doing basically the same thing you did with the 16" AA barrel and I would like to get one of those SWFA scopes? Do you like the Mil-Quad and are you glad you got 12x instead of the 10x? I do like the 12x and for my uses (steel plates) its great. With that said I think a 10x or 6x would be more versatile. For the money you will get better glass with a fixed scope vs a variable at the sub $700 range. Thanks for the reply. I am glad to hear that about the 10x. I think I will go with that one if I choose to go with a SWFA. |
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The advantage is you get a 120 grain bullet. The choice of anywhere from 85-130gr bullets. You can shoot 140-160gr as well, but hardly anyone does. I personally like the 123gr and 129gr bullets the most for cup and core construction. I've done a little experimentation with projectiles cut down by another forum member who modified 120gr Hornady GMXs to lighter weights for hunting. This is an old pic without the 129gr Nosler ABLR, 95gr Lehigh Defense Controlled Chaos, the 86gr and 95gr GS Customs HVs, the 85gr, 105gr, 120gr, and 130gr Pure Precision Solids, and a bunch of other bullets that it would take some time to list. There are so many choices, it gets ridiculous trying to work up loads for even a small fraction of them. I've been doing that for years now, and it feels like I haven't even made a dent in them. 
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The choice of anywhere from 85-130gr bullets. You can shoot 140-160gr as well, but hardly anyone does. I personally like the 123gr and 129gr bullets the most for cup and core construction. I've done a little experimentation with projectiles cut down by another forum member who modified 120gr Hornady GMXs to lighter weights for hunting. This is an old pic without the 129gr Nosler ABLR, 95gr Lehigh Defense Controlled Chaos, the 86gr and 95gr GS Customs HVs, the 85gr, 105gr, 120gr, and 130gr Pure Precision Solids, and a bunch of other bullets that it would take some time to list. There are so many choices, it gets ridiculous trying to work up loads for even a small fraction of them. I've been doing that for years now, and it feels like I haven't even made a dent in them. http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j422/LRRPF52/29133fab-659c-49c8-b522-5aef4d7bd71d_zpsa9e3d31a.jpg Quoted:
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The advantage is you get a 120 grain bullet. The choice of anywhere from 85-130gr bullets. You can shoot 140-160gr as well, but hardly anyone does. I personally like the 123gr and 129gr bullets the most for cup and core construction. I've done a little experimentation with projectiles cut down by another forum member who modified 120gr Hornady GMXs to lighter weights for hunting. This is an old pic without the 129gr Nosler ABLR, 95gr Lehigh Defense Controlled Chaos, the 86gr and 95gr GS Customs HVs, the 85gr, 105gr, 120gr, and 130gr Pure Precision Solids, and a bunch of other bullets that it would take some time to list. There are so many choices, it gets ridiculous trying to work up loads for even a small fraction of them. I've been doing that for years now, and it feels like I haven't even made a dent in them. http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j422/LRRPF52/29133fab-659c-49c8-b522-5aef4d7bd71d_zpsa9e3d31a.jpg I dont reload so I suppose I should say I get to shoot 123 grain hornady instead of 77 grain blackhills out of a AR15 while debating if I should build a 6.5cm gas gun cause the bolt gun is so epic. |
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I dont reload so I suppose I should say I get to shoot 123 grain hornady instead of 77 grain blackhills out of a AR15 while debating if I should build a 6.5cm gas gun cause the bolt gun is so epic. There are at least 37 factory loads, so most of the weights are represented more than adequately. .223 can't even go near it for projectile weight variation. When you shoot the 2 side-by-side, same barrel lengths, your wind drift is so much less than .223, making hits a lot easier. Impact on steel sounds more like a .308 Win. |
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There are at least 37 factory loads, so most of the weights are represented more than adequately. .223 can't even go near it for projectile weight variation. When you shoot the 2 side-by-side, same barrel lengths, your wind drift is so much less than .223, making hits a lot easier. Impact on steel sounds more like a .308 Win. Quoted:
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I dont reload so I suppose I should say I get to shoot 123 grain hornady instead of 77 grain blackhills out of a AR15 while debating if I should build a 6.5cm gas gun cause the bolt gun is so epic. There are at least 37 factory loads, so most of the weights are represented more than adequately. .223 can't even go near it for projectile weight variation. When you shoot the 2 side-by-side, same barrel lengths, your wind drift is so much less than .223, making hits a lot easier. Impact on steel sounds more like a .308 Win. Dont worry big guy I've shot them all side by side on many trips and the 6.5cm is the shit for sure. Shooting the 223 in the wind is all kinds of fun cause its even less forgiving and you have to bring the A game but you get 0 recoil. The ringing steel thing is nice but with electronic ear pro you can hear impacts with a 223 fine. Not to mention when your shooting furry things there is no doubt when you get a hit. Its awesome having a 6.5 that runs in a ar15 and while its a super fun and effective round its really not that ground breaking or earth shattering. 6.5g is my normal go to gun and I really cant criticize anything about besides maybe a little bump in recoil and little smaller mag capacity. End of the day they all have pros and cons and are fun to shoot. |
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