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Posted: 2/11/2015 11:46:14 AM EDT
| Any 6.8 shooters out there? I just finished my 5.56 and almost finished with the 300 Blackout. Thinking about doing a 6.8. Any info would be nice. |
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Any 6.8 shooters out there? I just finished my 5.56 and almost finished with the 300 Blackout. Thinking about doing a 6.8. Any info would be nice. 6.8 Forum Ask any questions you may have here or there. You will find a treasure trove of information on the 6.8 at the 6.8 Forum |
OP, if you want to shoot 6.8 projectiles, but want a "barrel change" conversion, there's always .277 Wolverine 
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ARP is top shelf, along with WC, LWRC, DD/Ambush, BHW, & Bison.
Budget & want a quick one, FN's CFH for $299; PSA Sale |
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6.8 Forum Ask any questions you may have here or there. You will find a treasure trove of information on the 6.8 at the 6.8 Forum Quoted:
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Any 6.8 shooters out there? I just finished my 5.56 and almost finished with the 300 Blackout. Thinking about doing a 6.8. Any info would be nice. 6.8 Forum Ask any questions you may have here or there. You will find a treasure trove of information on the 6.8 at the 6.8 Forum Just don't question, even politely and constructively, anything about any of the products any forum moderator there have personally invested themselves in (to the tune of a couple thousand dollars  ).
Don't worry, you'll notice who I'm talking about right away. He's the one with the giant red font sig line who fancies himself a former "burn out" (as if this is cool) expert in everything.
Also, it turns out I was right and he spent a bunch of money on a not-yet-ready product. 
I bet he simply sold them off to poor unsuspecting people too and didn't even mention the current version has a proper dimensions, finish, etc. I mean, why would he stop at trying to convince everyone to buy in on it site-unseen, while the product was still under development, from a manufacturer who are former associates with known rip-off artists? He's quite assured of himself for someone running vulnerable forum software and only knowing how to block an IP address and lock a user name. Someone with the sort of knowledge I have, but without the great career to go with it might have some fun at the expense of his all powerful god-dom. Other than that, the membership/readership there is quite good and there is a lot of good information exchange. I still read it regularly. 
And yes, 6.8SPC is fantastic. Trajectory like 75/77gr 5.56 or 7.62x51mm, so that remains pretty flat and familiar. Terminally, it's like having 85% of the best performing 7.62x51mm. And you can get all that in an AR15-sized, ~7lbs carbine. |
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Just don't question, even politely and constructively, anything about any of the products any forum moderator there have personally invested themselves in (to the tune of a couple thousand dollars ).
Don't worry, you'll notice who I'm talking about right away. He's the one with the giant red font sig line who fancies himself a former "burn out" (as if this is cool) expert in everything.
Also, it turns out I was right and he spent a bunch of money on a not-yet-ready product.
I bet he simply sold them off to poor unsuspecting people too and didn't even mention the current version has a proper dimensions, finish, etc. I mean, why would he stop at trying to convince everyone to buy in on it site-unseen, while the product was still under development, from a manufacturer who are former associates with known rip-off artists? He's quite assured of himself for someone running vulnerable forum software and only knowing how to block an IP address and lock a user name. Someone with the sort of knowledge I have, but without the great career to go with it might have some fun at the expense of his all powerful god-dom. Other than that, the membership/readership there is quite good and there is a lot of good information exchange. I still read it regularly. Quoted:
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Any 6.8 shooters out there? I just finished my 5.56 and almost finished with the 300 Blackout. Thinking about doing a 6.8. Any info would be nice. 6.8 Forum Ask any questions you may have here or there. You will find a treasure trove of information on the 6.8 at the 6.8 Forum Just don't question, even politely and constructively, anything about any of the products any forum moderator there have personally invested themselves in (to the tune of a couple thousand dollars ).
Don't worry, you'll notice who I'm talking about right away. He's the one with the giant red font sig line who fancies himself a former "burn out" (as if this is cool) expert in everything.
Also, it turns out I was right and he spent a bunch of money on a not-yet-ready product.
I bet he simply sold them off to poor unsuspecting people too and didn't even mention the current version has a proper dimensions, finish, etc. I mean, why would he stop at trying to convince everyone to buy in on it site-unseen, while the product was still under development, from a manufacturer who are former associates with known rip-off artists? He's quite assured of himself for someone running vulnerable forum software and only knowing how to block an IP address and lock a user name. Someone with the sort of knowledge I have, but without the great career to go with it might have some fun at the expense of his all powerful god-dom. Other than that, the membership/readership there is quite good and there is a lot of good information exchange. I still read it regularly. What product was it you are referring to? |
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What product was it you are referring to? The C-Products Defense Magazines. I raised some completely valid technical questions in a very professional way. Steel thickness, steel type, welds, feed lip angles. Questions, not insinuations, just reasonable questions. That was 95% of the post. As a last question/note on the side, I asked them to tell their side of the story and make clear for everyone their relationship with former C-Products (aka C this, aka C that.. can't even remember all the names they kept re-incorporating under). Because you had half the membership hearing FUD and the other half talking about throwing their "entire paychecks" on the "PRI magazine alternative" even though they "couldn't afford it". I cautioned the readership that they "might" not want to be the first ones to try it if they are short on money and might want to wait for the first couple batches since there were still engineering details being worked out (openly admitted by the manufacturer). No badmouthing, simply looking out for my fellow man. The manufacturer responded very professionally. They explained their perspective that they also got burned in dealings with their past associates and they intended to be a completely good/legit business, despite the penchant for continuing with the C-whatever naming. He addressed some of the technical questions and indicated they were still working on some, but that they cared about making a good product in the end, whatever it took. They wanted to send me a manufacturing sample for evaluation and technical feedback. He completely understood my questions and didn't at all view technical concerns as personal attacks. You know... like most good engineers do. I thanked him for his response, wished him luck, etc. He certainly seemed like he had the right sort of mindset... the kind I see from the best members in the gun industry. Cautiously optimistic at that point. Who doesn't want a quality alternative to $40 6.8 mags, right? Well, Mr. Former Everything Engineer flipped out, essentially said my concerns were completely unfounded (deleted all my posts, including 6.8SPC chronograph data provided in other threads ), banned my IP and locked my account. Then said a bunch of nonsensical stuff mischaracterizing what I had in fact wrote, flat out lying about other parts and basically said I just want to bash their newest site sponsor. Uhh, yeah ok...
At least one poster asked him to at least restore my posts because it had good questions, etc. He seemed a little huffy puffy about that, heh. So... a couple months pass and the first couple batches get into public hands.. with some issues. Pretty expected for a major engineering project and for anyone who's done the new-mag-manufacturer song and dance before. The product needs to feed rounds 100% reliably into rifles of slightly varying dimensions, amongst a gazillion other considerations. I know it just seems like a box, spring and follower, but it is actually really difficult. And it isn't like there is a USGI spec or even anyone to copy for 6.8 mags. And if manufacturers the world over have issues making 5.56 mags, then yeah... some teething issues are reasonable and not unexpected. Perhaps some of them could've been avoided, but we'll never know since the dialogue wasn't allowed to continue. Forum threads come up about the problems with the initial runs. Mostly finish issues, with a few feeding issues thrown in. That's when Mr. Former Everything leaks a juicy little tidbit along the lines of great, now I have a box of 200 faulty magazines. Ah hah! Now I know why he was touting them so much, trying to get others to invest and behaving irrational when another engineer of technical mind brings up steels specs, real numbers, welds, etc. Funny how he didn't disclose his big purchase in the initial thread he was pushing everyone else to also buy into. I'm sure most of the readership didn't remember what occurred earlier and probably didn't take notice or raise an eyebrow at this admission of you know, very small conflict of interest... but being personally attacked and banned by an adult version of Cartman is not something I forget. Only place I've ever been banned from, anywhere, ever. Oh, and btw the C-Products Defense 6.8 mags are quite decent now. I still prefer the PRI if cost is no object, but for most of us it is. I have quite a few of the C-Products Defense 6.8 mags and have had no problems with the final product for simple range use other than one faulty mag. And I'm sure they would've replaced that mag if I bothered to call them, but I didn't feel I should since I did try to fix it and thus modified their product. |
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Well, all I can say is the moderator you're talking about is a friend of mine, and I know him to be a very honest, respectable, and fair person with a lot of integrity.
That being said this is a technical forum and let's get back to cartridge talk before this turns into a GD thread. The 6.8 is a great cartridge. Check the math. Lots of quality vendors, forums and people support it. |
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Well, all I can say is the moderator you're talking about is a friend of mine, and I know him to be a very honest, respectable, and fair person with a lot of integrity. That being said this is a technical forum and let's get back to cartridge talk before this turns into a GD thread. The 6.8 is a great cartridge. Check the math. Lots of quality vendors, forums and people support it. +1 |
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